#meta 2018-09-07
2018-09-07 UTC
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[manton] @AngeloGladding What does "it creates a centralized blog for you" mean? A blog is a blog. š Using your own domain name is the most important thing. We can debate what features a blog should have, of course, but I've been arguing for a while that pushing everyone to self-hosting can't be the only answer because it will never be easiest enough.
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AngeloGladding [manton] what happens when you go away?
# AngeloGladding the data gets exported
# AngeloGladding then you're left to start from the beginning
# AngeloGladding it was more a response to the idea that a centralized service is the simplest way to onboard
# AngeloGladding it works just fine for a public blog but the concept becomes dangerous as things turn private
# AngeloGladding danger is a strong word
# AngeloGladding murky
# AngeloGladding and by private the simplest case is publishing a blog post only to your friends
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# AngeloGladding [manton] i just remembered
# AngeloGladding one of the services i'll be launching is a directory generated by a crawler
# AngeloGladding last i worked on it was a couple months back
# AngeloGladding but i had crawled everyone's site (using the indiemap) and traversed their rel=me graphs
# AngeloGladding i rank into dozens of problems, inconsistencies in implementations of microformats, etc..
# AngeloGladding one thing i saw was that somehow one of your customers' sites was being hosted behind anothers' domain behind a bad cert
# AngeloGladding or something
# AngeloGladding does that ring a bell?
# AngeloGladding anyway, it was an example of a failure of the domain name
# AngeloGladding micro.blog kind of got caught in the crossfire
# AngeloGladding now that i have another option i feel like the DNS was holding me hostage
# AngeloGladding that other options being Tor .onions
# AngeloGladding and/or GPG public keys
# AngeloGladding so the whole "own your domain" argument was already kind of being debased
# AngeloGladding now i'm kind of moving towards "domains for usability" but crypto for permanence
# AngeloGladding which is why i'm trying to figure out where the IndieWeb is headed and how it coexists with my project
# AngeloGladding when i get the crawler back online i'll let you know of any problems -- i think there was one oddity in your mfs as well
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[gregorlove] We both have them. Aaron started to shop them I think.
# [gregorlove] I can upload both originals at least if you don't have time @aaronpk
# [gregorlove] Or not. "It looks like a different user signed in. The user https://gregorlove.com/ signed in, but we were expecting https://gRegorLove.com/"
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aaronparecki.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2018-pdx-hwc.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2018-pdx-hwc.jpg"
# aaronparecki.com edited /events/2018-09-05-homebrew-website-club (+118) "/* Photos */" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /events/2018-09-07-xoxo-indieweb (+1015) "stub with h-event details, RSVP" (view diff)
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Zegnat !tell AngeloGladding See https://indieweb.org/discuss#Chat_Channels for what the channels are supposed to be about. If you think the IRC topic of this channel can be updated to better reflect it, chime in! :D
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tantek__ can someone double-check that the photos on https://indieweb.org/events/2018-09-07-xoxo-indieweb look ok?
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