#meta 2018-10-10

2018-10-10 UTC
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[tmiller] [dmitshur] tomorrow I'm going to hold a hwc meeting at Aroma coffee downtown if you can make it
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@grammasheri ↩️ Awesome Greg -- "Instead of using these tools to recreate new networks, we're allowing the tools to use our students." #indieweb #clmooc #literacies (twitter.com/_/status/1049841180068868097)
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@schnarfed ↩️ @gideonro join us at https://indieweb.org ! (twitter.com/_/status/1049877958268215298)
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@FormationXtof Publication croisée (#POSSE) à partir de mon instance http://indieweb.me vers twitter avec @crossposter@masto.donte.com.br Le #PESOS pourrait fonctionner aussi (dans le sens twitter vers http://indieweb.me) (twitter.com/_/status/1049894330687729664)
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@realdavidpeach @indiewebcamp I’m baaaaaaaaaack! xx (https://davidpea.ch/2018/10/10/38/) (twitter.com/_/status/1049901931735453696)
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@patdryburgh Some thoughts following the first ever Vancouver IndieWeb Meetup: https://patdryburgh.com/blog/vancouver-indieweb-meetup/ (twitter.com/_/status/1049904345200947200)
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@JayGreasley ↩️ in essence this is what https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club is about (although the tech may differ) (twitter.com/_/status/1049908375696433152)
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@_am1t I have realised that I am being a lot more “social” on web these days. And I think m.b and efforts I put to enable the IndieWeb principles on my blog played a big role, to just open my mind to express more. I put down some of my thoughts. https://blog.amitgawande.com/being-social (twitter.com/_/status/1049917399745605633)
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@bmann Yay! A fun first Vancouver IndieWeb / Homebrew Website Club tonight. @patdryburgh wrote up some more. I’m happy I got OwnYourGram working, so I will be using Instagram again. https://patdryburgh.com/blog/vancouver-indieweb-meetup/ (twitter.com/_/status/1049923674457956355)
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@dogtrax Testing Out IndieWeb With Poetry http://dailyconnector.com/2018/10/10/testing-out-indieweb-with-poetry/ (twitter.com/_/status/1049953384869089281)
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@dogtrax ↩️ @jgmac1106 @grammasheri @cogdog @lynhilt Oops. Try this link: https://dailyconnector.com/2018/10/10/testing-out-indieweb-with-poetry/ (I think that first one is an admin link) (twitter.com/_/status/1049957284653219840)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ Indieweb isn't dogmatic about the plumbing, as long as it can make web pages with http URLs we're happy. (twitter.com/_/status/1049957952818278401)
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Zegnat Interesting, seems like my tweet reply to @dogtrax’ above tweet didn’t get mirrored here. And it even included the indieweb hashtag
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[jgmac1106] @zegnat I am tryign to figure out where Kevin went wrong, he is on wordpress.com if he had bridgy webmentions activated would syndication to indieweb.xyz work?
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Zegnat [jgmac1106], lets take that to dev :)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ @dogtrax you are probably off to school but with http://wordpress.com you can only (which is still awesome) add webmentions. If you want all the #IndieWeb plugins you need to be on http://wordpress.org. Happy to make you a subdomain as a sandbox. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7827-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1049980706183614464)
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sknebel https://dailyconnector.com/2018/10/10/testing-out-indieweb-with-poetry/ is a nice example of why I worried about indieweb.tld names :/
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aaronpk wow yep
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sknebel is still annoyed I couldn't take part in the call. I even had a few minutes at the right time, but couldn't connect to the conference
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aaronpk Oh darn what happened? Blue jeans?
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sknebel the web interface didn't connect at all, and the phone gateway was wonky too
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Zegnat Phone gateway worked for me. The web interface ... not so much at all either
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sknebel didn't try for long since I was travelling that day
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GWG I am thinking of coming in Thursday morning and leaving Tuesday, but I keep wobbling
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[Rose] Berlin? That sounds reasonable
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[jgmac1106] [aaronpk] will grab the building block session off my external hard drive tomorrow. Just got swamped IT picked wrong time to upgrade my laptop
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@Christo37433424 Being in charge of your own content with #IndieWeb: a highly useful article: https://christophertomlinson.com/2018/10/10/being-in-charge-of-your-own-content-with-indieweb-a-highly-useful-article/ (twitter.com/_/status/1050036505979314176)
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@grammasheri ↩️ @dogtrax @jgmac1106 @cogdog @lynhilt I did not see your poem. Did I miss it in #indieweb ? (twitter.com/_/status/1050042634784231424)
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@grammasheri ↩️ Yes. The hub is the anchor, the connector, the neighborhood of the culture and the community #indieweb #clmooc #literacies @google Google Plus gave us that, and pretty much under our control (twitter.com/_/status/1050043346318585861)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Ohh it's on http://indieweb.xyz made tutorial for Bridgy webmentions. That is all you can do with @wordpressdotcom let me know if you need help with that. Will try to reach out @edublogs as teaching with webmentions awesome. Never looked into new Google sites for #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1050052469768802305)
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GWG Requisition for a Thursday morning arrival and a Tuesday morning departure placed for Berlin
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GWG Now on to accommodation
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gRegorLove jgmac1106_, Re: the tutorial question, I think it depends who the audience is. Setting up the wiki user page is probably more immediately useful to introduce yourself. That's the order on /wikifying currently.
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gRegorLove Adding to /chat-names may not matter much if they're not regularly in chat (e.g. someone new to an HWC meetup)
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jgmac1106_ but sparkline is needed for who is on Loqi correct? I won’t make it a sequential tutorial but based rather on goals
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gRegorLove No, Loqi's whois comes from /chat-names
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gRegorLove Which in turn uses /Template:irc_user
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gRegorLove If there were a way to combine /Template:irc_user and /Template:sparkline into one that would be great, but I'm not sure.
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[jgmac1106] gRegorLove++
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Loqi gRegorLove has 22 karma in this channel over the last year (115 in all channels)
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[jgmac1106] for the chat-name, sparkline, wikify me tutorial he will write
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gRegorLove Did I just get volunteered? hehe
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[jgmac1106] not volunteered, awarded karma for future endeavors given your unique insight
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Zegnat Interesting idea, combining the two. But would be a bit of a wrangle, gRegorLove. I don’t think you would want chat names and timezones to pop-up everywhere you add your name through a template
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gRegorLove Yeah
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Zegnat Combining both link to user page and to the user’s own URL is easier. See e.g. https://indieweb.org/Template:martijnvdven which includes both my homepage and wiki user page links
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Zegnat (I think I stole the idea from ben_thatmustbeme)
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gRegorLove The /chat-names template uses p-nickname too
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Zegnat It could use some weird CSS’ing. Hide .p-name on /chat-names and display .p-nickname instead. Then have both as a span in the mini h-card of the template
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Zegnat But that feels really fragile.
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[tantek] yeah
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sknebel we could look into automatically generating them, either through a form or by getting details from the user pages
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sknebel although the templates are a bit tricky, e.g. there's martijnvdven and Zegnat
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Zegnat I think Zegnat is just a redirect, because people kept using that ...
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sknebel true, I guess those could still be manual
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gRegorLove shaners experimented with /h-card_as_a_service several years ago, though that was entirely outside the wiki.
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gRegorLove It would be nice to add something like {{chatname | gRegorLove}} on the user page and have it show up
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Zegnat Could we have some sort of if-handling and pass that on? So you could do {{martijnvdven|chatname}}? And on template:martijnvdven I would just have to do {{mycard|{{{1}}}|name=martijn|photo=url|homepage=url…}}
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gRegorLove (and the photo, url properties I forgot :)
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sknebel both could work
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sknebel I'm happy to help make the automated wiki editing part of it
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sknebel since Kaja already has bits for that
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gRegorLove ooh, yeah could it check user pages when it sees an edit?
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sknebel yes
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sknebel I guess I should teach it to poll then, to catch minor edits, but that's ok
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gRegorLove The instructions could indicate not to use minor edit of your adding/updating chat name info.
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gRegorLove chat name and timezone can be added to the infobox template too, so they're put in the h-card there.
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sknebel hm, mfwiki h-card says p-tz is reserved, for numeric offsets :/
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gRegorLove p-x-tz-name?
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[tantek] this sounds like an interesting way to automate
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[tantek] [gRegorLove] what's an example of what you would put there?
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[tantek] "name" sounds a bit freeform for something that likely needs a constrained set of values
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gRegorLove US/Pacific, similar to what we're using on /chat-names currently
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gRegorLove This list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones#List
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[tantek] I think those names have a more formal name / designation than "tz-name"
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Zegnat I wonder if they do, I only know them as “names from tz database”.
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Zegnat goes looking
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[tantek] clicks through to https://data.iana.org/time-zones/tz-link.html
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[tantek] chuckles at "-link" being a suffix there
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[tantek] looks like "location" in there
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[tantek] probably good to be explicit about that aspect, tz-location or tz-location-name (similar to the existing country-name property)
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gRegorLove That's part of the name. format is "Area/Location"
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gRegorLove https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tz_database#Names_of_time_zones
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Zegnat The format just calls it “name”: https://data.iana.org/time-zones/tz-how-to.html
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Zegnat Interesting how it has examples of NAME “Chicago”, NAME “US”, and NAME “America/Chicago”
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[tantek] right, "NAME" is ambiguous even just in their own usage!
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[tantek] that's the problem with calling (everything) a name
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gRegorLove agreed, but "location" has a specific meaning in their usage already, too.
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[tantek] and it's the meaning we want
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[tantek] per "Locations are identified by continent or ocean and then by the name of the location, which is typically the largest city within the region." https://data.iana.org/time-zones/tz-link.html
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sknebel NAME Chicago and NAME US are names of rules, not zones
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Zegnat I guess it isn’t so much a location name in the tz-how-to, it is a rule name. There is a rule America/Chicago. That rule has dependend on the rule defined as US at times. At other times dependend on the rule called Chicago.
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Zegnat Yeah, I just saw that too, sknebel :)
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gRegorLove In "US/Pacific" the location is "Pacific"
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gRegorLove We want an mf property to put the whole value "US/Pacific"
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[tantek] which is what I quoted refers to
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[tantek] here is a longer quote with examples
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[tantek] "Locations are identified by continent or ocean and then by the name of the location, which is typically the largest city within the region. For example, America/New_York represents most of the US eastern time zone;"
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[tantek] https://data.iana.org/time-zones/tz-link.html
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gRegorLove So the location is both "America/New_York" and "New_York". Crystal clear, IANA :)
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Zegnat “Names normally have the form AREA/LOCATION, where AREA is the name of a continent or ocean, and LOCATION is the name of a specific location within that region.” - https://data.iana.org/time-zones/theory.html
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Zegnat It talks of “Each tz region has a unique name” on that page
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Zegnat So they are region names, consisting of an area and a location
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[tantek] I'll take -link over /theory any day 😉
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sknebel zone names aren't just location based though, e.g. "CET" is also one
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[tantek] that looks more like an abbreviation
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[tantek] which we should discourage due to poor usability/fidelity
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[tantek] right
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[Rose] CET is dangerous, because it becomes CEST in the summer.
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[tantek] and I'd say half the time I see people say PST when they actually mean PDT
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[Rose] And I've seen many people get confused because they google "time now in CET" and Google doesn't say "by the way, CET isn't currently active"
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[tantek] though they could!
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[Rose] They were smart enough to tell me when daylight savings ends here rather than in the US
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gRegorLove CET is deprecated according to wikipedia
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Zegnat Deprecated?
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gRegorLove https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones#List
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[tantek] hah! thanks gRegorLove for proving my point. Even the Europeans misused their own tz abbr
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gRegorLove Similar with other "singular" ones like PST in that table.
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Zegnat Ooh, as a tz name, yeah, they want to move on to the region based ones
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[tantek] also does S = Standard or Summer?
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[tantek] depends if you mean PST or BST/CEST 😛
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[tantek] timezoneabbrs--
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gRegorLove Er, PST8PDT? that one's new to me
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Zegnat BST is summer time there, so doesn’t matter :P
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gRegorLove Anyway, currently I'm leaning -1 on "location" in the mf property name for this, due to the AREA/LOCATION format
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[tantek] maybe we should just call it tz-string to make it clear there's something funny going on
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Zegnat Hmm. “UTC” (and Etc/UTC) are not deprecated. So not every official tz zone name has a region name
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gRegorLove tz-string sounds good
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[tantek] this is almost worth a follow-up post about why timezone (names/strings) suck
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[tantek] since IANA docs can't even be specific
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gRegorLove Interestingly, The US/* ones are also deprecated
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[tantek] http://tantek.com/2015/218/b1/use-timezone-offsets
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] Why You Should Use Timezone Offsets Not Timezone Names
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Zegnat Yes, you should be using America/*
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gRegorLove I've always preferred those so I don't have to remember city names :)
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Zegnat Etc/GMT-6 etc seem to not have been deprecated either, gRegorLove, if you want to stick to offsets
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[tantek] what's worse is all those strings only have meaning within a certain start date (optional end date)
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gRegorLove Glad to see we have that article linked on /timezone :)
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Zegnat I think there is a good argument to be made for tz-string. The tz database files just title the names “TZ”. Just like the table on Wikipedia
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[tantek] so if you want to future-proof your provincial timezone strings, you have to actually put the date of use into the string
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sknebel tz-string would suggest to me more "+0700" or so for some reason, not sure why
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sknebel depends what kind of future proofing you want :D
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Zegnat https://github.com/eggert/tz/blob/master/zone.tab#L24 - the data just calls them tz
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Zegnat sknebel, p-tz is already defined I believe, to be +0700
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[tantek] like 2018-10-10/America/New_York
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Zegnat I have it on my h-card, and pretty sure I took it from the mf wiki
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gRegorLove p-iana-tz-maybe
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[tantek] otherwise you have to sniff the date of use of the tz string from the context
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Zegnat p-have-you-seen-zone-dot-tab
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gRegorLove XD
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sknebel for a user profile, it makes sense that is not bound to a date
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[tantek] no it should capture the date when the user chose it from a pop-up or whatever
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[tantek] since they're certainly not typing them in by hand 😉
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sknebel no, the date doesn't matter
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Zegnat Well, date matters, but for finding the user’s time you may assume it to be $currentdate
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[tantek] it does because rules
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sknebel you want it to follow the rules
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sknebel If the definition of "Europe/Berlin" changes, e.g. because they actually do get rid of DST, I do not want something to remember "oh, but DST existed back then" and assume I follow DST somehow
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[tantek] no Zegnat you cannot assume currentdate because of any rules added between when the user set the timezone and the currentdate
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[tantek] good example sknebel
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sknebel so you do not need to store a date with it for user profiles
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[tantek] yes you need to store the date the user set it
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sknebel no
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[tantek] to capture their intent at the time
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[tantek] https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_7,_Permanent_Daylight_Saving_Time_Measure_(2018)
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Zegnat I think on my h-card you can assume currentdate. If I set it to Europe/Stockholm, I do not mean Europe/Stockholm today (with DST), I mean Europe/Stockholm any day (even after DST goes away)
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Zegnat I don’t want to go and change my profile just because DST-change happens
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Zegnat I am still in Europe/Stockholm, no change
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sknebel or because the underlying law changes
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sknebel Europe/Stockholm may not have DST in the future, great. that applies regardless of when that was added to the profile
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sknebel if you derive something from that, you apply a date (e.g. if Loqi answers "what time is it for Zegnat", it applies the current date and the rules according to the tz-database for that date)
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Loqi Sorry, I don't see that date) on https://indieweb.org/irc-people
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sknebel lol
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Zegnat Ha
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[tantek] I kinda want Loqi to reject any dfn attempt that uses one of the words from the phrase in the definition of the phrase
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[tantek] what is object storage
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Loqi Object storage is a storage mechanism that manages data as objects as opposed to files https://indieweb.org/Object_storage
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[tantek] hmm, would need plural extensions too
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gRegorLove I chuckled at that
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[tantek] !tell AngeloGladding,jacky is either of you (or anyone else) actually using "object storage" on your site? Otherwise I'd like to delete that stub.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jacky [tantek]: nuke it
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sknebel everyone using s3 is
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AngeloGladding yeah i was going to expand upon it when i ventured into that space
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Loqi AngeloGladding: [tantek] left you a message 2 minutes ago: is either of you (or anyone else) actually using "object storage" on your site? Otherwise I'd like to delete that stub.
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AngeloGladding but for now i have nothing
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sknebel what is s3?
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Loqi Amazon S3 is a file hosting service from Amazon https://indieweb.org/S3
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aaronpk quite the scrollback to catch up on
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@fluffy Hey #indieweb folks! My Atom/RSS to WebSub/WebMention bridge is almost ready for use! Check it out at http://github.com/PlaidWeb/Pushl The docs need a lot of work but the basic functionality is there. (twitter.com/_/status/1050130370232893442)
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gRegorLove Lots of timezone stuff, so maybe worth skipping. ;)
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aaronpk oh but i love timezone stuff
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gRegorLove Then you'll love it :)
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[manton] IndieWebCamp Austin update: leaning toward either Feb 9-10 or Feb 23-24. I think for simplicity we're going to go with the same venue as last year. Just kind of want to lock it down this month so everyone can have it on their calendars, so if you think you can make it let me which weekend is better or put your name here: https://indieweb.org/Planning#Austin
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aaronpk thanks for the reminder! gonna look at my calendar right now
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[manton] Thanks!
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[manton] Also if _neither_ of those weekends work, we can pick another one. Just from talking to people those weekends looked best so far.
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[manton] I heard back from Tara Vancil who said that she and Paul Frazee (also works on Beaker) hope to make it.
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aaronpk oh cool
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Going to do in indieweb Virtual meet up tonight if you want to join me for help shooting for 8:30 but will be late as I have to coach a soccer game so showers and bedtime routines will be off-kilter tonight (twitter.com/_/status/1050136154807422977)
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gRegorLove [jgmac1106] will you be able to make vHWC next wednesday?
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[tmiller] Question:if I want to add a note with a photo about where I'm sitting since the Cafe is a little big where can I put it for the NYC HWC
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gRegorLove [tmiller], if you can post to your site easily, add the link under the address on https://indieweb.org/events/2018-10-10-homebrew-website-club#New_York_City
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gRegorLove Or you can upload the photo to the wiki and embed it there.
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gRegorLove No real rule about it; whatever is easiest :)
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@Johannes_Ernst Going to the inaugural Homebrew Website Club in Mountain View tonight. Have a website that you control? Join us! https://indieweb.org/events/2018-10-10-homebrew-website-club#Mountain_View #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1050145418032504832)
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[tantek] awesome!
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[tantek] tmiller++ nice!
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[tantek] be sure to get someone to take a photo of at least the two of you as well
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[tantek] (or selfie 🙂 )
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aaronpk selfie++
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@Johannes_Ernst ↩️ Come by a local Homebrew Website Club then. There are lots all over the world: https://indieweb.org/Events, e.g. a new one starting tonight in Mountain View, CA. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1050149185922654208)
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tantek I hope j12t is coming to MV!
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[tantek] tmiller you got your brownie finally! (also I think that image is only Slack - for now?)
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aaronpk 🎉
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[tmiller] [tantek] it's not even a good brownie
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tantek tragedy!
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GWG I need to RSVP
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[tantek] I like how the # of people in the photos doubled.
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ ping me any time then @grammasheri and I can walk you through #IndieWeb options for personal sites and public groups m (twitter.com/_/status/1050154685221560320)
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@ChrisAldrich I'd recommend this episode of Crazy/Genius from @TheAtlantic featuring @merbroussard to everyone. There’s something to be gained here in the people side of what #IndieWeb movement is doing as well as for their efforts towards inclusion. #DTMH2016 https://boffosocko.com/2018/10/10/tech-was-supposed-to-be-societys-great-equalizer-what-happened-crazy-genius-the-atlantic/ (twitter.com/_/status/1050156298103214080)
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[jgmac1106] tmiller++
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[jgmac1106] Nice first HWC.!!
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[jgmac1106] You doubled my first attendance! And matched my attendance last night.
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GWG jgmac1106, can you email me the contact for the potential interest in my neighborhood?
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GWG That and can someone tell me about pre Berlin hack week?
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[jgmac1106] Yeah better yet let me do the intro. Your email is on your h-card. She is on the #IndieWeb IES grant as a PI with me. Studies learning and video games
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[tmiller] [jgmac1106] is he in NY area?
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[tmiller] I can't tag him
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[kevinmarks] A friend of mine is working on reading electricity meters in Australia. Australia has completely mad timezones, and also changes the DST date when they host sporting events.