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@t co-organizing IndieWebCamp Berlin 2018 this weekend @MozillaBerlin!
Looking forward to catching up with @jkphl, @ioctaptceb, and everyone else.
Still a few spots left if you can be in Berlin Nov 3-4!
Tickets: http://jk.is/iwcber2018
More info: http://tantek.com/t4xE2 (twitter.com/_/status/1057446755044855809)
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@cleverdevil For those of you that have been asking, #Indiepaper for iOS is on the way, thanks to @EddieHinkle. Soon, you’ll be able to save content for later using #Micropub natively on iOS. We are just waiting on Apple! #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1057472556767371264)
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@sl007 ↩️ If you would have asked I would probably have answered ;)) https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47617248/js-track-a-moment-when-container-has-no-child-elements/47617340#47617340
It is super useful and the other Observer patterns too, e.g.:
https://www.sitepen.com/blog/2017/09/05/observing-intersection-observers/
https://www.sitepen.com/blog/2018/06/04/exploring-the-resize-observer-proposal/
Are you at IWC BER ? And btw: https://indieweb.org/2019/Vlissingen (!) (twitter.com/_/status/1057589393190518785)
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@oss_rb publisher-server-rails - Ruby on Rails #indieweb implementation https://github.com/darkmatterapp/publisher-server-rails (twitter.com/_/status/1057625097383694339)
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@jgmac1106 @mapkyca and @benwerd had a wonderful conversation about Known on Virtual Homebrew Website Club-Europe today and how with a few tweaks it will be the perfect engine to drive all the posting from micropub clients to our sites. (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/y75jS) (twitter.com/_/status/1057682935497789440)
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# @jgmac1106 In the Know(n) at Virtual IndieWebCamp-Europe 10/31: http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/10/31/in-the-known-at-virtual-indiewebcamp-europe-1031 (twitter.com/_/status/1057688677382545408)
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# @jgmac1106 Hey #edu106 #edu307 #edu305 piece describing the #IndieWeb stuff we do here @scsu @readywriting" target="_blank">https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/weekend-reading-rediscovering-blogging-edition/65671 @readywriting cites many scholars joining our blogging bunch (https://jgregorymcverry.com/8068-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1057696063887425536)
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[jgmac1106] [chrisaldrich] interesting that @downes class is attracting people to IndieWeb https://mastodon.social/@rolandlegrand/100991666074199609 ...and to think educators never made it to the Generations mao and they are gonna beat all the journalists
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[chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] I bookmarked his class last week and keep meaning to check in on it, but I've been too busy to spend the time needed.
# @jgmac1106 ↩️ If you have any resources for blogging/newsletter combos let me know. Will add to here: https://indieweb.org/newsletter we get the "how do I own my Newsletter question a lot" in #IndieWeb chat often some folks have figured ways to syndicate to… http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/10/31/shortformernie-if-you-have-any-resources-for (twitter.com/_/status/1057705347216015360)
# [chrisaldrich] Here's my bookmark to downes' online course for those interested: https://boffosocko.com/2018/10/22/approaching-e-learning-3-0-stephen-downes/
# [jgmac1106] hey [roland] just shared your toot
# [jgmac1106] we smell the toots everywhere
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@ChrisAldrich .@readywriting thanks for the mention in @ProfHacker. I’ve only just seen it thanks to an old Web ~0.4 technology called Refback. There's a great blogging renaissance, some of which is being powered by the #DoOO and the #IndieWeb movements. [more...]
https://boffosocko.com/2018/10/31/reply-to-weekend-reading-rediscovering-blogging-edition-by-lee-skallerup-bessette/ (twitter.com/_/status/1057712508587335680)
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# @jgmac1106 ↩️ We keep a list of CMS here but it looks like it needs some updating as I know we have articles for other CMSs not on the list https://indieweb.org/content_management_system (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1sMRbD) (twitter.com/_/status/1057720878065164288)
# @jgmac1106 ↩️ @ow This is exactly what people want in my site to my newsletter experience. Congrats. #IndieWeb (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1UfSlh) (twitter.com/_/status/1057721278088519690)
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# @jgmac1106 @manton I will be at https://credcon.org in Austin. Hoping to talk about how I think encouraging #IndieWeb principles may be a better approach to credibility than any particular code. Will try to catch up possible a meetup. (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1Arfdv) (twitter.com/_/status/1057724576451444736)
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boffosocko.com edited /annotation (+1924) "Brainstorming and example: Chris Aldrich, W. Ian O'Bryne" (view diff)
# boffosocko.com edited /posts (+26) "annotation link since there are a few examples (emoji is a potential suggestion; open to improvements before creating redirect)" (view diff)
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@voxpelli I've somewhat compensated for not being able to attend this weekend's @indiewebcamp Berlin, which is sad, by releasing the first new version of my Webmention endpoint in half a year: 0.12.6! Lots of upgrades to the code behind the scenes + a bug fix: https://webmention.herokuapp.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/1057754408493240320)
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[frank] Not sure if this is the proper channel, but is there a specific reason why IndieAuth doesn't see my Mastodon instance as a supported authentication provider? My Mastodon instance is upgraded to 2.6.1 and supports rel=me now. I've closed the loop with my website on my Mastodon profile (https://me.frankmeeuwsen.xyz/@frank) and a link back to my Mastodon profile, both with rel=me in the a href. What am I doing wrong?
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[tantek] whoa check out the photo of IndieWeb poster from FOSDEM 2018! https://indieweb.org/2019/Vlissingen#Photos
# [tantek] This looks interesting - any indieweb folks going? https://www.credcon.org/
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Loqi IndieWeb Hack Day https://aaronparecki.com/2018/11/01/1/map.png
# [tantek] perhaps /annotations needs to be rewritten explaining that it's basically a fancy way of saying /responses. cc [chrisaldrich]
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tantek.com edited /posts (-26) "annotation is an abstraction (nearly a synonym for [[response]]), not a post type itself. Undo revision 53352 by [[Special:Contributions/Boffosocko.com|Boffosocko.com]] ([[User talk:Boffosocko.com|talk]])" (view diff)
# [chrisaldrich] And highlights are a version of quote really. Thanks for the feedback Tantek!
# [chrisaldrich] I do like the idea of having slightly different representations for them on my site however...
# [chrisaldrich] An annotation seems to be a response meant for the poster of the annotation more than a response to the original content typically...
# [chrisaldrich] Highlights and annotations were traditionally meant for their writer than the creator since they were hidden in one copy. It's only in modern connected contexts that they've begin to take on broader significance.
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[kevinmarks] That is rather ignoring the talmudic tradition
# [chrisaldrich] There's a lot of gradation here, but I'd love to see another online talmud! https://www.sefaria.org/texts/Talmud
# [chrisaldrich] There is also a segment of annotators who want to have semi-private annotations (think about a particular teacher having a classroom of shared annotators), but we're still a bit away from that type of functionality...
# [chrisaldrich] That Talmud version is only very recent by the way: https://boffosocko.com/2018/09/22/the-quest-to-put-the-talmud-online-washington-post/
# [chrisaldrich] In any case, there's more semantic subtlety here than my broken use of likes/favorites on Twitter as bookmarks. 😉
# [chrisaldrich] I'll try to do some additional notes on those pages shortly as well as adding some of the UI functionality that Hypothes.is has for private/public/group annotations which will help to differentiate.
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# Loqi audience is an experimental property of a post that indicates the intended recipients (readers) of the post https://indieweb.org/audience
# [jgmac1106] [tantek] I will be at credcon
# [jgmac1106] Annotations are special if you are teaching people to read, marking up a source is a form of external storage
# [jgmac1106] But yes an annotation should live on source being marked up more than. On site of person marking up... Unless source and annotation on your site