#meta 2018-11-03

2018-11-03 UTC
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@btconf
It‘s @indiewebcamp time in Berlin! If you are attending, meet @jkphl, @adactio, @t, @aaronpk, @stefanjudis and the other #indieweb people at @mozilla Berlin, GSG-Hof, Gebäude 3, 4. Obergeschoss, Schlesische Straße 27, 10997 Berlin
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[schmarty]
Stuck in the hall on 3 outside Mozilla
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[schmarty]
tantek,aaronpk,jkphl,gwg
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[schmarty]
Someone please let us in lol
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tantek.com
created /2018/Berlin/Introductions (+3953) "stub based on Summit 2018/Introductions"
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tantek.com
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[tantek]
[schmarty] it looks like we need to pick a wall for the session grid, and setup columns & rows - can you take care of that after you do your personal site demo?
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@AxelNennker
Layout of #indieweb in @firefox in Android. Also notice the TLS warning https://t.co/YcfrQQYERI
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@damiancugley
[Blogged] I am scratching me head over transitioning from using the Twitter button on my blog pages and toward some kind of IndieWeb solution with syndication link. http://alleged.org.uk/pdc/2018/11/03.html
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@jgmac1106
↩️ Wow, are you setting up webmentions and syndicating to Twitter and Mastodon from your own website? If you need any help stop by #IndieWeb chat anytime/ This reply started on my site but will go to Twitter and Mastodon (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/KAqO3)
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@jgmac1106
I have so many new blogs to add to my #IndieWeb feed after @indiewebcamp Berlin....so many new friends. (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/19jzfB)
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@jgmac1106
@sgreger at https://sebastiangreger.net shows the his site "the power of IndieWeb is having all these conversations about your conversations" (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1ns5yT)
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@jgmac1106
Code is writing, writing is code, Make a a better world, your text structure doesn't matter, just the motivation. #IndieWeb (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/29ND36)
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@jgmac1106
stoked to virtually meet http://sonniesedge.co.uk always been such a fan of Charlie’s design and ideas. #IndieWeb (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1JYGkU)
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[schmarty]
I will hide that sticky note and pretend we never had a planned session at that time ;)
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[schmarty]
(Actually with as many ppl as we have still to speak i think we may end up eating the first session with session planning)
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[schmarty]
I predict it will be a short one
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[schmarty]
Grid bits collected and location/times written. The room walls are only sticky where the whiteboard material is, so I suggest we use the space next to the podium.
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[schmarty]
FYI 20 minutes to start of first scheduled session
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[tantek]
schmarty yes it looks like it
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[tantek]
amazing demos at IWC Berlin
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[tantek]
ooh ok need to update wiki
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[tantek]
[schmarty] - sounds like you have figured out where / how to run the session planning - want to help drive that? I can introduce you
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[tonz]
throwing IWC Berlin up on the wall here, to better see the browser windows shown. https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2018/11/taking-in-glimpses-of-iwc-berlin/
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jgmac1106
+1 for offline room even if I miss stuff as a remote attendee
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@jgmac1106
Looks like @flickr announcements has sparked a lot of interest on owning your own photos at @IndieWebCamp Berlin (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1p02Jx)
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@jgmac1106
Going to work on trying to take @cleverdevil's Watching Idno/Known plugin and trying to make a read and listen plugin. Found it invaluable to quickly track, and have my students reflect on progress #IndieWeb (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1yrQnm)
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martymcgui.re
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@voxpelli
Realized I had broken the HTML-pages for mentions in the latest release of my Webmention endpoint. That has now been fixed: https://webmention.herokuapp.com/api/mentions?site=voxpelli.com&format=html #indieweb
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martymcgui.re
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martymcgui.re
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@jgmac1106
↩️ It it isn't just microformats, though the metadata is common throughout the #IndieWeb but also a deep commitment to an HTML and human readable first web. (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/HLNA)
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[schmarty]
Berlin sessions grid is up with sessions, rooms, times, and links to etherpads: /2018/Berlin/Sessions
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[tantek]
schmarty++
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Loqi
schmarty has 27 karma in this channel over the last year (70 in all channels)
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[schmarty]
made a mistake on the social e-readers session and had the tablet join the hangout but never started the hangout-on-air.
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martymcgui.re
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@jgmac1106
Finished preliminary analysis of #indieWeb and #DS106 for #el30 cloud week. Here are initial thoughts https://github.com/jgmac1106/bloggingme/blob/master/DiscussionConclusion.md Still collecting evidence from members of each community in method I think I… http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/11/03/finished-preliminary-analysis-of-indieweb-and-ds106
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@jgmac1106
Always soliciting evidence and artifacts from participants. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yETrpHPP-6hymPJapUvO6GWFMc0daB4W8ma8IxbQ77c/edit?usp=sharing Especially looking for learning post "I learned" "I can't do" or "big idea" knowledge post versus "minute detail" knowledge posts. #IndieWeb #el30 (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/snNXY)
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@jgmac1106
Attending @IndieWebCamp -Berlin Session on displaying replies and IndieWeb Ethics: UX of Ethics https://t.co/eLbRaAAsPp
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@jgmac1106
There are 3726 mentions of community minus WordPress and Mozilla. 4027 mentions of community when you include allies. 311 mentions of diversity, 113 results for inclusion,399 mentions of conduct when you remove wiki edits #IndieWeb (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/13C454)
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@swentel
The Drupal #indieweb module now contains a built-in IndieAuth server. Authorize applications by simply logging in with your Drupal account! Last service to add is an internal webmention endpoint, stay tuned!
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@jgmac1106
↩️ Was recognition community that either the tech was ready for wider audience or high technological bar was a barrier to access (probably both), about this time Homebrew Website Clubs launched after @t attended anniversary party of Homebrew Computer Club… http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/11/03/was-recognition-community-that-either-the
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jeremycherfas
Seeing the great pictures on Flickr makes the FOMO even worse. No FO, just MO
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@ilikebeans
↩️ Yep, I've been keeping up with #indieweb for a couple years now, building some parts into @writeas__, and hoping to get support for things like Micropub into it still
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@jgmac1106
112 results for "first hwc -your -Wednesday -floor -upload -edited", 61 results for "first iwc -your -floor -upload -edited" 5618 results for first "indiewebcamp -your - -upload -edited" 110 results for "first homebrew club -your -floor -upload… http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/11/03/112-results-for-first-hwc--your--wednesday
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@DawnHeuft
Own your own content. Learning about http://Indieweb.org at Chris Aldrich session. Looking for solutions for my followers that don’t “Facebook” #WordCamp #wcrs18
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@jgmac1106
Example of the spread of #IndieWeb in media in 2014: https://chat.indieweb.org/2014-09-17/1410982480154000 not sure if editor at Android Police at time but sure they were flashing roms since Cupcake #el30 (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1wFd2R)
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@jgmac1106
Just realized I am using a Known site, I want to collect some data in my case study of #IndieWeb and #ds106 but not all needs to be broadcasted or even shared, realized I have members-only and private posts. I forgot. Using em now #el30. (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1BCjCW)
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@jgmac1106
The more I work on applying Gee's affinity spaces to #IndieWeb and #ds106 the less I like the term knowledge brokering, I know how sociologist use it. I get it, but connotations of power imbalance and manipulation, even towards shared endeavor feels… http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/11/03/the-more-i-work-on-applying-gees
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axel.nennker.de
created /User:Axel.nennker.de (+348) "Created page with "'''Decentralize the Web!''' <a href="https://ignisvulpis.blogspot.de/" rel="me">My Blog</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AxelNennker" rel="me">On Twitter I am @AxelNennker</...""
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@AxelNennker
Just logged in to https://indieweb.org/User:Axel.nennker.de using indieauth via @github Kind of back to @openid version 1... Which is not bad but solves a completely different problem than openid connect. Very indie
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@jgmac1106
↩️ Power's back on. Not sure what should replace knowledge brokering, not gonna try to name it, just describe what I saw doesn't fit, knowledge in affinity spaces is also archived, stored, automated, and in the case of #ds106 and #IndieWeb available by… http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/11/03/powers-back-on-not-sure-what-should
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@jgmac1106
Both #ds106 and #indieweb start with a place of "I " first yet these self-motivated goals often fit the larger shared endeavor. Yet I have always wondered if this "I" first approach draws on Western traditions and Kantian humanism that other worldviews… http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/11/03/both-ds106-and-indieweb-start-with-a
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@nilshauk
Catching up on IndieWebCamp Berlin, which is happening this very weekend. :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy5djnHtbvE&t=384s
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sknebel
Our group is sitting in front of the Späti at U Schlesisches Tor
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@TechLifeWeb
Does http://Brid.gy work with more than one Twitter account? #indieweb
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@nilshauk
I notice that TV at my parents' place is less and less used. My dad would rather listen to the radio, my sister checks Instagram and my mom video chats with her sister. And I'm watching videos about IndieWeb and tweeting about it. We converse and we go about our lives. :)
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@sonniesedge
I've just spent the day at IndieWeb Camp Berlin and it has been SUPER fun. https://www.sonniesedge.co.uk/notes/1548
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@nilshauk
This is fun. I just added an IndieWeb Webring to my site's footer. :) Now it's super easy to start stumbling into other personal sites! :D See footer here: https://nilsnh.no/2018/10/13/real-internet-with-kodepoeten/ Learn about the concept here: https://indieweb.org/indiewebring
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://www.sonniesedge.co.uk/notes/1548" to the "See Also" section of /2018/Berlin https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=53465&oldid=53460
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Loqi
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