#meta 2018-12-03

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[eddie] !tell jgmac1106 https://indieweb.org/2018-12-indieweb-challenge
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Loqi [eddie]: jgmac1106 left you a message 9 hours, 8 minutes ago: please check out the proposed online schedule. Haven’t heaerd more bout the dates so I say we just go with what you prposed and make a page
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[eddie] Does anyone have anything for Day 2?
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[eddie] Of the IndieWeb challenge?
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jacky I don't tbh :(
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jacky all of my efforts/focus is on getting Koype to a point where I can replace Jekyll with it
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jacky eager to see what people got
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aaronpk anyone want to create a stub page for IWS 2019 here https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org
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[eddie] No worries jacky, personal website is more important!
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aaronpk or create one for Austin which seems to be the furthest along in planning?
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aaronpk i'll launch that today if someone creates the content
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aaronpk there's also a handful of low hanging fruit here if someone wants to knock something out quick https://indieweb.org/to-do
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[eddie] I can try to put a 2019 page together for Austin based on info on the wiki
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[eddie] I’ll put schedule TBD and put registration TBD until Manton figures that out
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aaronpk that'd be great
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[eddie] I’ll ping you here when I send the PR
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aaronpk 👍
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[eddie] !tell aaronpk PR sent: https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/pull/1
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [EdwardHinkle] #1 Add initial Austin IWC 2019 stub
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aaronpk woo
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[eddie] Once it’s live I’ll ping manton so he knows it’s available and that it just needs a schedule and sponsors (neither of which I have :))
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[eddie] Oh that was quick!
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aaronpk \o/ https://2019.indieweb.org/austin
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Loqi IndieWebCamp Austin
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[eddie] Awesome!
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aaronpk thanks!
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[eddie] My pleasure, thank you for the quick merge and publish :thumbsup:
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eddiehinkle.com edited /2018-12-indieweb-challenge (+95) "day 2, Austin IWC 2019 page" (view diff)
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aaronpk teamwork!
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[eddie] 🙌
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[eddie] !tell [manton] We added the IWC Austin 2019 page https://2019.indieweb.org/austin It just needs schedule and sponsor info 🙂
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi IndieWebCamp Austin
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /2018-12-indieweb-challenge (+127) "added mine" (view diff)
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[manton] Excellent, thanks [eddie]!
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /2018-12-indieweb-challenge (+2) (view diff)
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aaronpk feel free to add the schedule and other info another day and count that towards the challenge too :)
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[eddie] My pleasure 🙂 hopefully it helps reduce my FOMO... probably not! Haha!
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jacky ooh austin is cheap from SFO
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jacky excited!
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[tantek] eddie++
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Loqi eddie has 5 karma in this channel over the last year (79 in all channels)
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[tantek] !tell eddie perhaps consider s/TBA/coming soon and s/TBD// and maybe add a prominent "Save the dates! IndieWebCamp is coming to Austin" instead either at the top or bottom? https://2019.indieweb.org/austin that would be a better placeholder until Manton adds details
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi IndieWebCamp Austin
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[tantek] Also ^^^ that preview image is way out of date and is not anywhere on the actual page - why is it showing up?
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Zegnat Preview image?
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Zegnat Oh. Slack..?
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Zegnat There are OpenGraph tags on that page, so that would be where the image is coming from
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Zegnat invisible meta data ...
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[tantek] invisiblemetadata--
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jgmac1106 [eddie] make a page for online as well
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Loqi jgmac1106: [eddie] left you a message 10 hours, 27 minutes ago: https://indieweb.org/2018-12-indieweb-challenge
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jgmac1106 !tell aaronpk I am pretty sure I did this coreectly: https://github.com/jgmac1106/2019.indieweb.org
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106] [tantek] I thought an open source journal about blogging research would be an interest to the community, ....it is a journal where scholars publishing their research would do so from their own blogs using webmentions....I care, [chrisaldrich] been interested in samizdat for long time, I will put him the care column. might be one or two more
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[jgmac1106] plus anybody could grab the h-card template for their site from there. I tried to keep it clean, maybe I should have used another stylesheet to make it more portable
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] thanks for your patience - getting back to this
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[tantek] re: "open source journal about blogging research would be an interest to the community" - that's a good question. maybe? I don't think we did "launch a new blog" type posts in last year's challenge because it wasn't really a "re-usable" thing *for* the community.
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[tantek] re: "anybody could grab the h-card template for their site from there" that certainly wasn't obvious at all - using View Source? some other UX? nor was there any wording or even suggestion for folks "hey here's an h-card template you can use!"
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[jgmac1106] Yeah... Maybe I should just link to the CSS Grid hcard... I tried to see if I could copy [grantcodes] but it was above my level
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[tantek] this is what I mean about it being very unclear what the linked page was supposed to be - what did it do? for whom? why? how was it useful to anyone as a building block? how? with what steps?
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[jgmac1106] I was trying to build something for folks with my skill who may want to add lists of peolke
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[jgmac1106] Sorry I also had to go decorate Christmas Tree.... Didn't expand post... And fell asleep as soon as kids went down
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[tantek] no worries - can always finish it on a later day
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[jgmac1106] It will be a #backstage post where I track. My Learings and frustration
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[tantek] better to have something clear and useful for folks, than half-complete like that in the indieweb challenge
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[jgmac1106] Makes sense
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[tantek] also - feel free to add such "in progress" work to a new section (perhaps right before "Inspirations") on that page
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[tantek] or rather I can go ahead and do that since I did the revert
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[tantek] cjwillcock++
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] does this help? https://indieweb.org/2018-12-indieweb-challenge#In_progress
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[jgmac1106] great filters
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[jgmac1106] will work on this: https://github.com/jgmac1106/h-carddirectory which is probably what I should have linked to.
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Loqi [jgmac1106] h-carddirectory: Trying to learn CSS Grid to make an h-card directory
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] my goal is to help encourage the indieweb challenge entries to be easily consumable by folks, just like we want better intro and getting setup documentation for various things, WP etc.
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[jgmac1106] [aaronpk] [eddie] Zoom started to offer breakout rooms, if we have to stop using Hangouts...though I am sure YouTube Live will live on
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[jgmac1106] it does
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[eddie] Google Hangouts is replaced by Google Meet, I just don't know if Meet requires an organizational account or not
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[eddie] lame
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[eddie] ohhh
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[jgmac1106] we would need to pay 10 a month for one account
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Loqi [eddie]: [tantek] left you a message 12 hours, 29 minutes ago: perhaps consider s/TBA/coming soon and s/TBD// and maybe add a prominent "Save the dates! IndieWebCamp is coming to Austin" instead either at the top or bottom? https://2019.indieweb.org/austin that would be a better placeholder until Manton adds details
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Loqi [eddie]: [tantek] left you a message 12 hours, 29 minutes ago: perhaps consider s/TBA/coming soon and s/TBD// and maybe add a prominent "Save the dates! IndieWebCamp is coming to Austin" instead either at the top or bottom? https://2019.indieweb.org/austin that would be a better placeholder until Manton adds details
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Loqi [eddie]: [tantek] left you a message 12 hours, 29 minutes ago: perhaps consider s/TBA/coming soon and s/TBD// and maybe add a prominent "Save the dates! IndieWebCamp is coming to Austin" instead either at the top or bottom? https://2019.indieweb.org/austin that would be a better placeholder until Manton adds details
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[jgmac1106] [eddie] I didn't fork the repo for online, figured we should wait until you make a wiki page
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[eddie] Yeah, sounds good. I feel like Online probably needs a few more details tightened up before we make a page for it
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[jgmac1106] I did write a proposed two day schedule (optional day zero for people who need help with stuf)
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[eddie] Yeah, I glanced at it but haven't had a chance to read it through fully
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[eddie] Thanks for putting it together
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[jgmac1106] yeah if we don't get any Aussie interest as organizer we can go with one timeslot for live. so far nobody seems interested...make life easier
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[eddie] Yeah, we'll just have to figure out times that work with both US and Europe
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[jgmac1106] around 16:00 utc always my my sweetspot https://everytimezone.com/#2018-12-3,270,b8jj
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[jgmac1106] maybe a little earlier...would get late in E....but not too much as then it gets too early for Pacific US...we only need a1-2 hours for magical UTC time...sessions and hack times up to attendees
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[tantek] This looks like an opportuinty if someone wants to gently engage with what's possible and what they've gotten working: https://twitter.com/kevdog/status/1069651214869168128 (see first reply to that)
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@kevdog @nkjemisin The only fool-proof solution is to own and host your own online content. (twitter.com/_/status/1069651214869168128)
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[tantek] https://twitter.com/scalzi/status/1069651184057753605
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@scalzi You know, back in the before times, people had blogs that they controlled themselves. AND WE LIKED IT. Maybe we should try giving those a chance again. https://twitter.com/nkjemisin/status/1069650839432818690 (twitter.com/_/status/1069651184057753605)
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