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@jgmac1106
OMG! OMG! OMG! Look at changes to @microdotblog #mb https://www.manton.org/2019/01/30/custom-templates-categories.html Talk about feature release...Like a whole new experience. If you want turnkey #indieweb, a platform to help you grow and up your game, but works without touching code this is… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/01/31/omg-omg-omg-look-at-changes-to
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@jgmac1106
↩️ We can talk about getting CECA off of Google Sites later..their lack of HTML and CSS access makes it a detrimental teaching tool for students. Actually harms digital #literacies skills IMO. Go #indieweb, I know CECA has their own domain at … https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/01/31/we-can-talk-about-getting-ceca-off
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[tantek]
I think it's about time we summarized a bunch of indieweb development practices in a web development page
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aaronpk
What kind of practices?
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[tantek]
existing indieweb development practices for one, documenting how we build for the indieweb
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aaronpk
How *do* we build for the indieweb?
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[tantek]
much of this is already documented on the wiki for specific things
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[tantek]
we just need a page that links to all of it
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[tantek]
everything from existing setup a static host / stand up an apache/other server to HTML, CSS, JS coding practices
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[jgmac1106]
....or let's go back to Summit idea of three columns>three pathways
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[jgmac1106]
the web development is the third pathway
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[jgmac1106]
but I had same thought when helping someone find the webmention python library
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[jgmac1106]
they had enough web development skill and could build what they wanted but couldn't figure out how to find what they needed to know on the wiki
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[jgmac1106]
granted they didn't know what they needed to know more than just where to find it. so chat will always play a strong roll . I know nothing of web development so couldn;t help
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[jgmac1106]
but I could find, the chat essential, but yes need to lay out the process of building blocks
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[tantek]
uh let's not collapse things
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[tantek]
these are totally different focused objectives
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[jgmac1106]
just had similar thought..there was no go to page for I want to do this....but how do you see Wedb development page different than a Getting Started page?
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[tantek]
we don't need more wishes, we need work done
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[jgmac1106]
"documenting how we build for the indieweb" as different than "I want IndieWeb on my site" is that what you mean?
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[jgmac1106]
why @zegnat is a building block I do not know but he is an essential tool in my stack
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[tantek]
also please don't add more constraints on the 3 column home page effort, it's hard (barely moving) as it is
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[tantek]
uh, Getting Started is about setting up your indieweb site
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[tantek]
web development is about what practices do you as a web developer engage in setup a server period, write HTML, write CSS, write JS, what frameworks etc.
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[tantek]
very different focus
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[jgmac1106]
yeah that was my confusion, my fault, just saw the "web development" crowd as the third column
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[jgmac1106]
do you think the patterns in "engage in setup a server period, write HTML, write CSS, write JS, what frameworks" are normalized enough for general consensus?
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[tantek]
no third column is how you can get started with your indieweb site that you want to build yourself (rather than use an off the shelf CMS), that's a *subset* of web development, and not all web developers want to actually build their own CMS
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[tantek]
we do more web development here than just our own sites. e.g. Bridgy and every other "service" site that people here have built and launched
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[tantek]
web development includes the processes and practices for doing those
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@jackjamieson
Thank you to @RyersonResearch and especially @joyceemsmith  for inviting me to talk about my research today.  I had a great time talking IndieWeb, and specifically, Bridgy. Jan 30, 2019 Lunch and Learn at Ryerson Journalism Research Centre I presented a… https://jackjamieson.net/?p=3311
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[jgmac1106]
ahh okay, so you want to document workflows specific to IndiewWeb. My question do you think they are both specific and unique enough to warrant documentation or should the bridgy page (or the Read.me file) explain the development process
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[tantek]
yes they absolute are different in indieweb than all the JS-JS-JS framework craziness that is spreading like kudzu on the web
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[tantek]
there's a huge crowd of (mostly) white (mostly) male coder (bros) who are shaming HTML and CSS skills (or the tech in general) and advocating purely JS-JS-JS approaches to building web sites
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[jgmac1106]
okay that would be one key difference I like that
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[tantek]
sites which of course are dead to history per js;dr
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[jgmac1106]
how about server setup seems to be more love for ngix than Apache...do you say something like that or leave it up to people (please remember I have zero idea on difference)
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[tantek]
we document existing practices
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[tantek]
then let people choose for themselves
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[tantek]
just like indieweb use of CMSs (or not), static files vs server code etc.
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[jgmac1106]
..the articles..are just existing practice..look at post type discovery versus templates...we clearly present post type discovery as a superior approach
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[jgmac1106]
I won't touch the content but can help with writing and shaping the page, not tying to be pendantic, just trying to flesh out the sections you want as a critical friend
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[jgmac1106]
so it would be HTML/CSS first, microformats, use modular building blocks, we have third party tools but spin your own if you can, server set up, blog engine,...
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[jgmac1106]
what else
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[tantek]
[jgmac1106] can you explain why you think these are vs? "post type discovery versus templates"
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[jgmac1106]
from pst type discovery "which helps avoid the need for explicit post types that are being abandoned by modern post creation UIs.explicit post types that are being abandoned by modern post creation UIs"
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[tantek]
that says nothing about "templates"
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[jgmac1106]
I read modern as better which means old post creation that uses templates must be unmodern and old
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[tantek]
huh? nothing about that says no templates
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[tantek]
they're completely orthogonal
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[jgmac1106]
what are the old post creation UIs that are being abandoned then?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "old post creation UIs that are being abandoned then" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "old post creation UIs that are being abandoned then is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek]
a template is not a UI
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[tantek]
what is a template
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Loqi
A template is a file used to generate a page https://indieweb.org/template
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[tantek]
that's a template ^^^
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[jgmac1106]
yes but I am reading this as someone without background knowledg and that was my conclusion templates=old post type discovery=modern
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[jgmac1106]
if those aren;t the old UIs being abandoned what are?
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[tantek]
"without background knowledge" where did you get the assumption that "templates" have anything to do with anything?
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[tantek]
nothing about "post type discovery" mentions templates
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[tantek]
so you are assuming that from some other source
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[jgmac1106]
I just figured they were the opposite of post type discovery. A template says this is post type X, post type discovery uses an algorithm to say this post is X
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[tantek]
no a template is just a file used to generate a page
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[tantek]
where did you get the notion that a "template says this is post type X" ?
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[jgmac1106]
something has to be the opposite of the modern UI the thing being abandoned I just assumed this was tempaltes
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[jgmac1106]
because I add u-read-of in a tempalte to make a read post type
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[tantek]
no you add u-read-of in a class name
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[tantek]
class *attribute
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[jgmac1106]
but it goes into my read post type template
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[tantek]
that's HTML. that has nothing specific to templates
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[tantek]
that's your choice. it can go straight into the HTML
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[tantek]
there is no requirement for or against templates there
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[jgmac1106]
subdirectory,..yeah said it was growing pains as I learn
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[tantek]
PHP != UI
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[jgmac1106]
but I thought template=template
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[jgmac1106]
my mistake
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[tantek]
where did you make that leap from PHP to UI?
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[tantek]
post type discovery says nothing about PHP files
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[jgmac1106]
I think when you were asking ben about post type discovery with Known versus the plugins to me a template is something and all the HTMl I ever needed to change was in a subdirectory labeled template
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[jgmac1106]
a template could be a stencil I use with markers doesn't have to be PHP, just means starting point I then fork with content
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[tantek]
also post type discovery is about consuming HTML
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[jgmac1106]
I just always assumed (incorrectly) that tempaltes were the unmodern UI that people abandon
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[tantek]
you're talking about publishing HTML
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[tantek]
templates != UI
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[jgmac1106]
yes I see where was I wrong
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[tantek]
I guess I'm just really confused how the concepts were connected at all.
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[tantek]
Like is there some documentation somewhere that was misleading
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[jgmac1106]
I just assumed my template is where the HTML classes are that say this is post X so therefore it must be the opposite of post type discovery which determines what kind of post X is.
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[jgmac1106]
no, people naturally make mistakes as they learn
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[tantek]
the classes also don't say "this is post X"
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[tantek]
that's another misconception
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[jgmac1106]
it was the word creation. to me that means publishing
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[tantek]
the classes just say this element has this property
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[jgmac1106]
but the properties say this is a reply post
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[tantek]
no they don't, not directly. that's the whole point of post type discovery
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[jgmac1106]
if some element has the class u-inreply-to..I think it was the word creation that triped me up
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[tantek]
the u-in-reply-to property says this is a in-reply-to property and has a value
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[jgmac1106]
that sounds like publishing not consuming HTML
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[tantek]
templates are for creating and publishing HTML yes
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[tantek]
your templates don't consume HTML
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[jgmac1106]
but in my mind I know if I want to publish a reply post I just need to have u-in-reply-to somewhere....wait
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[tantek]
no you need an h-entry etc.
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[jgmac1106]
now I get how to parse the sentence...the different post types are being abandoned by modern creation UIs
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[tantek]
and ideally a reply-context etc.
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[jgmac1106]
I was always reading the sentence incorrectly that is all
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[tantek]
there is no "just" about it. a reply has and needs a whole bunch of markup
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[jgmac1106]
I was reading the sentence as modern creation publication UIs are abandoning post types in favor of post type discovery..total comprehension mistake
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[tantek]
then we should fix the sentence
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[jgmac1106]
or fix me
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[tantek]
no. it is likely you are an indicator of many people who may also misread it that way
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[tantek]
on a separate note, aaronpk, looks like I may still have you beat on reposts
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[jgmac1106]
potentially what value(s) they have. is that the correct term? does the algorithm calculate a value?
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[jgmac1106]
nevermind makes total sense value in terms of <data>
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[jgmac1106]
take a look and make sure I clarifies
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[jgmac1106]
clarified* and then signing fo realz
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[schmarty]
jgmac1106 i think that's more confusing.
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jgmac1106
sorry, please recert then
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[schmarty]
maybe an example could help? i think of it like quill's note interface.
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jgmac1106
revert*
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jgmac1106
‘it was a rabbit hole when I was trying to flesh out structure of what tantek wanted in the web development page
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jgmac1106
in a dfn?
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[schmarty]
from quill.p3k.io/new you can: write a short note, add one or more photos, add a URL that you're replying to (and an RSVP value if that URL has an event), ...
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[schmarty]
all in a single interface
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[schmarty]
rather than multiple single-purpose posting interfaces that only do one thing
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jgmac1106
I gotta go to bed..damn dog woke me up at 4:30, need more IndieWeb early risers….you night owl folks are weirdos
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[schmarty]
have a good sleep! i'll take a crack at rewording.
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[schmarty]
also it's not even 9pm EST so this ain't exactly midnight oil territory ;}
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jgmac1106
but post type discovery is about consuming…not creation correct? or it enables
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jgmac1106
yeah not all ,liek I said I blame my dog, but I am due for one early night where I just can’t hang its tonight
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jgmac1106
can’t make HWC-NYC bc of NHV but will get down to city soon
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[schmarty]
jgmac1106 the fact that the Post Type Discovery algorithm exists means clients can add more things to a post without confusing a reader, for example.
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[schmarty]
anyway have a good sleep! sleep deprivation is terrible.
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jgmac1106
okay but lets plan HWC-NE Corridor tto give gwg a reason to where the uniform
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jgmac1106
good night all
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Loqi
sleep tight!
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[schmarty]
wow i'm having a hard time rewriting this
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[tantek]
schmarty ^^^ review
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[tantek]
or rather
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[tantek]
what is ptd
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Loqi
Post Type Discovery specifies an algorithm for consuming code to determine the type of a post by its content properties and their values rather than an explicit “post type” property, thus better matched to modern post creation UIs that allow combining text, media, etc in a variety of ways without burdening users with any notion of what kind of post they are creating https://indieweb.org/PTD
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[schmarty]
arggh yes, that's it.
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[schmarty]
explicit "post type" property was where i was tripping
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[schmarty]
tantek++ that's great!
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Loqi
tantek has 22 karma in this channel over the last year (80 in all channels)
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[tantek]
it's definitely a challenging concept to explain
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[tantek]
and very technical
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GWG
[tantek]: That reminds me. I do have to make those comments about posts with multiple photos
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GWG
Been busy
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[tantek]
GWG do you mean a /multiphoto or a /collection or something else?
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GWG
I think multiphoto
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GWG
I wanted to add it to the PTD algorithm
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GWG
Because, if there is a photo property, it is a 'photo' post.
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GWG
It doesn't say how you would handle multiple photos.
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[tantek]
and that's good enough for existing consumers
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[tantek]
can you provide an example of consuming code that needs to be told that?
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GWG
[tantek]: I was trying to figure it out for Microsub, but right now only in the abstract
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GWG
Also, I am thinking of implementing it as a defined input type on my site
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[tantek]
I wouldn't worry about it until you're actually writing code to display posts that you've consumed from elsewhere
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[tantek]
you don't need PTD for input
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[tantek]
and as a counter-example, aaronpk is displaying multiphoto comments just fine without being told "how to handle"
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GWG
My code for photo posting is not up to snuff and I want to fix it
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[tantek]
pretty sure that has nothing to do with post types or discovery
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[tantek]
perhaps look at and document (screenshot) existing good photo posting UIs as a start?
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GWG
It doesn't directly. Just trying to scope out the issue on both ends.
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GWG
And understand what I want to publish and consume
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edited /reposts (+2173) "Most Reposts, indieweb example, tweet examples"
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@jgmac1106
↩️ More than just cultural institutions let's rethink our CT universities as drivers of civic engagement. For me I strive for this in trying to anchor the local web, though my #IndieWeb grants, in the community. Restoring our power from social media and… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/01/31/more-than-just-cultural-institutions-lets-rethink
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edited /reposts (+678) "/* Most Reposts */ caveat my example (no display of reposts), add aaronpk example as well since his actually *displays* the reposts"
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@kingkool68
↩️ @elgreg There is the indieweb where you post stuff and interact via your own **GASP** WEBSITE!
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aaronpk
Tantek I was on a plane but I could see your mentions but couldn't reply!
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aaronpk
I was going to say that your post doesn't count as having more reposts until you display them!
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aaronpk
of course plenty of people get more reposts on twitter than me
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aaronpk
the one exception I will allow is if you have a private display showing the reposts if you choose to not make that public, but I happen to know you don't have that ;-)
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[tantek]
Haha ok I clearly need to hack something up
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@Hagnkerchief
↩️ Was following a guide I found on http://indieweb.org, but I seem to be running into multiple known issues. Hope they get fixed soon cause I was really liking what little I had to learn.
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@Hagnkerchief
↩️ @uboslinux I guess let me know if an amateur that's trying to get into the indieweb can help with anything.
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@sl007
↩️ Ziemlich regelmäßig https://indieweb.org/Facebook#Criticism – es geht so schnell. Kurz danach dann https://www.heise.de/mac-and-i/meldung/Trotz-Apple-Bann-Facebook-sammelte-mit-VPN-App-weiter-iPhone-Nutzungsdaten-4292294.html – wie gesagt, wenn jemand weiß, was @DoroBaer beruflich macht, das würde mich interessieren. So, jetzt schnell zum Flugtaxi.
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Zegnat
Hmm. I was sure my pink shirt was mentioned as a personal brand at one of the two events (as I wore the shirt to several events, and have it in my profile picture) but I can’t find mention of it on video :(
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Zegnat
If anyone remembers it, let me know
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@jgmac1106
Just came across https://rhiaro.co.uk/ PhD thesis http://dr.amy.gy/ as we have been comparing how #IndieWeb does identity with h-card and how RDF does identity with you the person getting a url and your site getting a url (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/UfudE)
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[tantek]
IndieWeb Summit 2019 main room venue confirmed for June 29-30, working on the BarCamp session rooms (expect to get 3-4 fairly easily - will update with room names when I get them)
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[tantek]
<!channel> if you're interested in or for sure going to be participating in IndieWeb Summit 2019, please add yourself to https://indieweb.org/2019/Guest_Book! We need to start estimating numbers for planning purposes. Thanks!
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Zegnat
wonders if he should take time off for remote participation
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[jgmac1106]
save days off for irl camps or like vacations...
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[jgmac1106]
usually spans a weekend
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Zegnat
I don’t tend to take vacations. Taking a monday off for remote summit would be vacation for me.
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[jgmac1106]
but now you have a job and money go somewhere, there are other cold and dark places in the world but this more #chat
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[jgmac1106]
...maybe we will have the travel grant figured out by June
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[Rose]
I would like to attend IWS, sadly unless it is adjacent to WWDC it's not realistic to fly to the (especially west coast) for a weekend. But online participation would be great!
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@jgmac1106
↩️ Fighting for an open Publishing API isn't a tactic for #leeches it is about supporting an interoperable web. @Medium, once stewards of how silos could play nice on the web, decided to turn their back on us all. #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/15YaFu)
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@jgmac1106
If you are looking for a way to quit @medium now that they have removed the ability to map your own domain and then cut off developers from their API (without warning) stop by #IndieWeb chat. We can help you export your content and get it on your own… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/01/31/if-you-are-looking-for-a-way
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jeremycherfas
I'd like to make it to IWS this year and am working on a couple of other things I could do in the area in an attempt to make it possible. Should know more in a few weeks.
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@jgmac1106
↩️ I actually found the @medium export feature very easy to add to my site. Granted I use #IndieWeb stuff so having microformats on export made it a simple task of cutting and pasting each post into a file. Even tried to kind of recreate the… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/01/31/dwaynelaf-i-actually-found-the-medium-export
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@jgmac1106
↩️ ooohI just had idea! We are running @indiewebcamp online 3/9-3/10. Would you want to do a track on A-Frame? I am going to do a getting started on blogging and websites track for teachers. #literacies #edtechchat #digped #DoOO (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1zQiYD)
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@gabrieljbaker
↩️ Interested. Am curious to hear more and see what that entails. Want to set up a quick chat? Feel free to book any time that suits you next week. http://Calendly.com/framevr
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@lrettig
↩️ Another good piece of advice, from IndieWeb: POSSE (Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere) https://indieweb.org/POSSE
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@vasilakisfil
↩️ @dustyweb @sl007 hmmm but then the whole indieweb philosophy is broken :(
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@schmarty
↩️ @vasilakisfil @dustyweb @sl007 It's a (known) issue, to be sure, but I don't think it breaks the whole philosophy. https://indieweb.org/DNS#Hierarchical_Vulnerability
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@dustyweb
↩️ I have made the argument to many people in the IndieWeb community about the significance of supporting things like tor .onion services and etc and a lot of the response I have gotten is that I am being an "architectural astronaut". You be the judge!
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jacky
^ I haven't seen that in chat
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jacky
but it's not wrong
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@brianjesse
i guess it's 11 years now that i've been micro-blogging on this one web site that doesn't connect to other micro-blog web sites for some reason! #MyTwitterAnniversary #indieweb #openmicroblogging #ostatus #pubsubhubbub #webmention
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@schmarty
↩️ Sites over .onion, DAT, etc work "enough like" websites over DNS+HTTP/S that it should be possible for IndieWeb building blocks to extend to them. I keep a .onion mirror of my site, but it's extra effort. Need more people to play. http://schmartyp7qtjzn7.onion/
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[schmarty]
jacky: the not-actual-ownership issue of DNS is evergreen and comes back up from time-to-time.
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[jgmac1106]
there is a dat page to h-card html page project in Glitch from the summit
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[tantek]
Also as if criticism of one /shortdomain is a fatal flaw? Please, we have plenty of problematic shortdomains we have already documented.
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[jgmac1106]
worse never judge an entire philosophy of a group based on one tweet, and dogmatic postions as to what counts as decentralized and what doesn't just eat up so much oxygen
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@eldelacajita
↩️ I found their IndieMark very interesting and useful for understanding the "how" part: https://indieweb.org/IndieMark It "a set of metrics for measuring the indieweb-ness of a site, and a step-by-step approach to incrementally adopting indieweb features on your site".
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[jgmac1106]
...wow something I never thought I would hear. Glad people find it useful. I was always suspect of the gamification of how-to guides
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@kisik21
Today you may have seen SSL errors on my domain. No, my private keys are safe. It's just that my domain was put on parking since I have forgot to renew it. Thankfully, the issue is resolved. Long live my #indieweb site! #domains #security
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@gabrieljbaker
↩️ @jgmac1106 @indiewebcamp Ha, I said next week! Tomorrow is no good for me.
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@jgmac1106
↩️ @gabrieljbaker @indiewebcamp No worries, we can catch up will do again
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@jgmac1106
↩️ Those are webmentions https://indieweb.org/Webmention your my posts show up as tweets and your replies on Twitter come back to my posts as comments. webmentions link networks built on the #IndieWeb together. Allows you to #BeYourOwnSocialNetwork (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/2znDi)
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GWG
jgmac1106, we haven't talked about indiemark much in the last few years
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@gabrieljbaker
↩️ @jgmac1106 @indiewebcamp That same time works for me, just any day next week. :)
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@pauljacobson
↩️ I'm using Independent Publisher 2, along with a variety of IndieWeb plugins such as MF2 Feed, Webmention (incl for comments), Post Kinds (I lost the custom fields at some point). Webmentions generally work, although I forget to @ mention people in replies.
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Loqi
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[tantek]
jackjamieson++ nice photo and write-up! https://jackjamieson.net/3311-2/
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Loqi
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Loqi
[Jack Jamieson] Thank you to @RyersonResearch and especially @joyceemsmith  for inviting me to talk about my research today.  I had a great time talking IndieWeb, and specifically, Bridgy. Jan 30, 2019 Lunch and Learn at Ryerson Journalism Research Centre I presen...
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[jgmac1106]
!tell manton is there a micro.blog tutorial you could add here: https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started#Tutorials
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@jgmac1106
@grabaperch do you have any quick getting started and maybe a tutorial for adding webmentions that we could add to #IndieWeb Tutorial page here: https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started#Tutorials (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/43TmY)
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