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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+66) "update from /Events" (view diff)
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@tw2113 For the tail end of my #5ftf time yesterday, I contributed to the WordPress plugin for the #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1091878957383933953)
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aaronparecki.com edited /history (+258) "/* 2013 */" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2019-02-06-homebrew-website-club (+93) "/* Virtual Americas */ +me" (view diff)
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@jjdelc Great, now my syndicated tweets are using the new 280 char limit #indieweb #micropub https://jj.isgeek.net/2019/02/03-085800-am/ (twitter.com/_/status/1091984137349668864)
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /Events (+60) "added New Haven" (view diff)
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /2019/Online (+3519) "/* IndieWebCamp Online 2019 */ added online" (view diff)
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jgmac1106 !tell eddie gwg I worked on the online page a bit: https://indieweb.org/2019/Online#IndieWebCamp_Online_2019
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jgmac1106 rhiaro been enjoying the lit review section of your dissertation, I always came at identity from a #literacies lens it was nice to expand the literature base with your explorations
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /2019/Online/Planning (+16) "/* Tasks */ moved jgmac1106 task to done" (view diff)
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Zegnat Filed a PR to remove recent spam from the logs: https://github.com/indieweb/indieweb-chat-archive/pull/11 - should we have people that review these PRs before merge?
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Loqi [Zegnat] #11 Remove spam from Jan 30 and Feb 3
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Zegnat I can merge it, but I don’t want to modify a repo like that without any oversight
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Zegnat Might even be worth configuring it in such a way that people are not allowed to merge PRs without review? Like we did on selfauth?
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[jgmac1106] for the logs, yes I would say important feature
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /User:Jgregorymcverry.com (-66) "/* To Do */ removing completed task" (view diff)
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[eddie] jgmac1106 do not list technology that hasn’t been decided on on the public page
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Loqi [eddie]: jgmac1106 left you a message 40 minutes ago: gwg I worked on the online page a bit: https://indieweb.org/2019/Online#IndieWebCamp_Online_2019
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /User:Jgregorymcverry.com (+12) "/* Done */ changed task" (view diff)
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /User:Jgregorymcverry.com (+49) "/* To Do */ added task" (view diff)
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eddiehinkle.com edited /2019/Online (+9) "/* Participating */ hide unapproved tech" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] eddie okay will delete
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[eddie] Just did :)
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[jgmac1106] up early for someone who went to bed at 3:00
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[eddie] #babylife
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[jgmac1106] yep, do you need me to do the PR for the 2019 page?
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[eddie] That’s okay, I’ll do it in the next day or so, so it’s ready before HWCs
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jgmac1106 perfect aI will hold off on recruitment until Wed be good time to announce,
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[eddie] Yeah, definitely. We can start doing announcements on Tuesday so we start to get word about before HWCs and then HWCs on Wednesday can help push it out further
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[jgmac1106] happy to try and stay awake M or T to talk again, emphasis on try would have to check with gwg and chrisaldrich
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danielmoch.com edited /Planning (+126) "/* Florida */" (view diff)
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eddiehinkle.com edited /2019/Online (+28) "/* Schedule */ add kickoff time zone link remove Planning note until we actually have a volunteer" (view diff)
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[eddie] Yeah sounds good to me. I’m free
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[eddie] jgmac1106 can you check this link and tell me what time zone/city is listed first at the top? https://timee.io/20190209T2200?d=120&ln=https:%2F%2Findieweb.org%2F2019%2FOnline&tl=IWC%202019%20Online%20Kickoff
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[eddie] I’m hoping it’s yours and that it’s dynamically built based on IP rather than having Frederick hardcoded
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[jgmac1106] my local
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[jgmac1106] well have to run and get food for the game
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[eddie] Thanks! And have fun 🙂
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[jgmac1106] I did my a pro Zoom account so if we want to test that out with Hangouts all up in the aire we can
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[jgmac1106] buy* not my
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Zegnat tries to figure out how to make that timee.io link work passed the uMatrix blocker
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Zegnat Oh. Apparently not allowing framed resources from accounts.google.com makes the page not show at all? Talk about nonsense dependencies
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Zegnat Wonder if that has anything to do with their “protected by reCAPTCHA” badge at the bottom. So without Google Heuristics scanning the visitor’s browser they block access completely or something?
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Zegnat [eddie], it did put my local time up top, so that is nice!
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[eddie] jgmac1106 we can test zoom. I also have Jitsi Meet set up for HWC Americas on Wednesday so we can test that
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[eddie] Zegnat: oh weird about google 😕 great to hear your local time was put up top!! 😁 sounds like that’ll work unless/until I find one that does the same thing without Google dependency.
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[eddie] 👏
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[jgmac1106] oooh forgot about jitsi
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[jgmac1106] would rather do that obviously, keep Zoom for backup if it fails
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Zegnat Note that there will be a virtual HWC on Wednesday. So if there is any conference solutions we would like to try, maybe setup a list somewhere?
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[jgmac1106] didnt realize we have a vHWC Wedensday...sweet
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[eddie] Just added it last night jgmqc1106
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[eddie] Zegnat sounds good. Jitsi Meet is the primary one right now, because I think Zoom has been tested in the past?
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[eddie] sknebel had planned to test Jitsi Meet two weeks ago with the EU virtual but it didn’t end up happening, so if we could test that this week that would be awesome!
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Thank you for your #IndieWeb contribution. We can only have a people centric alternative to the corporate web with more people like you! #5ftf (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/2dQ0Zs) (twitter.com/_/status/1092065334637588481)
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Zegnat Neither Zoom nor Jitsi are documented on https://indieweb.org/Virtual_HWC
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Zegnat But we can definitely try out Jitsi!
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[eddie] Oh if Zoom isnt documented then that would be great to test as well!
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[eddie] I’ll add those to a to test list there
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Zegnat Jitsi being free is the big plus for us, versus Zoom, if I understand right? Lets start with that. I am making a note on /next-hwc so we do not forget
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Zegnat This suggest we did use Jitsi once, hmmm: https://indieweb.org/events/2017-07-12-homebrew-website-club#Virtual_European_Time
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Zegnat US seems to also have used it: https://indieweb.org/events/2019-02-06-homebrew-website-club#Virtual_Americas
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Zegnat But clearly nobody wrote down experiences
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eddiehinkle.com edited /Virtual_HWC (+80) "Add software to test" (view diff)
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eddiehinkle.com edited /Virtual_HWC (+9) (view diff)
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[eddie] Awesome, thanks Zegnat!
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vanderven.se martijn edited /events/2019-02-06-homebrew-website-club (+211) "/* Virtual European Time */ Add probably [[Jitsi Meet]] link, watch this space" (view diff)
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Zegnat Oh, lol, that link I thought was previous virtual US meetup was actually for the upcomming meetup
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[eddie] Oh yeah
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[eddie] Hahaha
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Loqi [eddie]: lol
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[eddie] What is Jitsi Meet?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Jitsi Meet" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Jitsi Meet is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[eddie] Jitsi Meet is a free self-hostable video conferencing solution that is being investigated for virtual [[HWC]]s and [[IWC]]s.
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /Jitsi_Meet (+151) "prompted by [eddie] and dfn added by [eddie]" (view diff)
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eddiehinkle.com edited /Jitsi_Meet (+656) "Add basic Jitsi Meet features" (view diff)
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GWG I need an Indieweb event to inspire me.
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@bradenslen ↩️ @GlosterEd Sorry, I was testing an online editor and it didn't include the link. https://boffosocko.com/2019/02/01/dividing-and-conquering-the-indieweb-related-content-on-my-website/ (twitter.com/_/status/1092087354070888451)
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[tantek] GWG Austin is < 3 weeks away!!!
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[tantek] And there’s the HWC virtual Americas Wednesday. What can you demo for that?
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GWG [tantek]: I thought schmarty was trying to talk me into coming down to Church Street on Wednesday
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eddiehinkle.com edited /RDF (-79) "/* See Also */ remove unnecessary quote" (view diff)
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[tantek] Eddie++
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Loqi Eddie has 14 karma in this channel over the last year (88 in all channels)
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[tantek] Yes GWG go to HWC NYC in person!
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GWG [tantek]: I'm planning to, if there isn't a weather event. It is something of a hike.
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GWG If I take the fastest way, I have to drive from work to a commuter rail station, then take the commuter rail(because the less expensive bus/subway combo would take 40 minutes longer), then transfer to the subway. And, assuming I leave work at the earliest I can, I still won't be there till 5:45PM...which is at least during Quiet Writing Hour still.
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GWG It is why I can't do it every time.
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GWG But I want to come periodically, at least.
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david.shanske.com edited /events/2019-02-06-homebrew-website-club-nyc (+77) (view diff)
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GWG Wonder who else will be there other than schmarty and I
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aaronpk Zegnat: i merged and deployed the PR for the logs. since that repo isn't set up to auto-deploy, merging a commit from github will actually break its ability to push new chat logs up until that's pulled down
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Zegnat Ah, interesting, so not only should nobody merge to master there without oversight, nobody should merge to it ever?
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aaronpk until i can pull it back down to the server right after merging
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Zegnat Gotcha
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aaronpk i'm working on moving things to a new server where i have better github hooks set up to auto-deploy stuff like that though
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GWG How many servers do you have for Indieweb stuff?
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aaronpk i currently run 4 servers. one for my personal sites like aaronparecki.com, one for stuff like aperture/monocle, a server that only runs MySQL, and a new one that i'm moving all the indieweb community resources like the wiki onto
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danielmoch.com created /Template:djmoch (+559) "Create sparkline for Daniel Moch" (view diff)
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /Dublin_core (+1279) "expanded article, refined dfn" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] ^^^ everyone please check to make sure I captured everything truthfully and I am using the right words correctly.
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@cswordpress ↩️ @tw2113 I'm looking forward to a time when the building blocks of the indieweb are part of WordPress core. (twitter.com/_/status/1092141169373519875)
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[schmarty] gwg: tmiller plans to attend. Maybe aaronpk as well!
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GWG [schmarty]: A nice crowd.
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GWG Not that a schmarty only party is not a fun time.
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[schmarty] I do my best
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GWG How have the NYC meetups been?
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danielmoch.com edited /User:Danielmoch.com (+507) "Add more Itches. Add Social section." (view diff)
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@nitinthewiz ↩️ indieweb, I realize that there’s too much cruft and that I don’t want to abandon WordPress’ basics or experiment with my default install. Same with someone even less technical - “if I can post on Medium, why would I run my own web server? That’s cray!” (twitter.com/_/status/1092176996161843200)
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jacky eh that's kinda like "if I drink gatorade or buy a smoothie, why would I make it at home or buy fruits?"
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[kevinmarks] counterpoint: https://medium.com/@rrhoover/the-rise-of-no-code-e733d7c0944d
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[jgmac1106] the best tools provide both approaches, you can build an hour but peek behind forever...the Othello mode
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tantek.com edited /GitLab (+212) "GitLab supports rel=me! de-dupe see also" (view diff)
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aaronpk Mikaela: Loqi uses https://indieweb.org/chat-names to give +v to people, but right now +v doesn't do anything except give you a little star in the list here
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aaronpk and Loqi trims punctuation and [m] from nicks when deciding to +v from the list there
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[tantek] Mikaela, it does say "discussion about the community / channels / wiki." but we can improve that
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Mikaela ah, I see, thank you :)
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Mikaela [tantek], it's clear, sorry, I have just slept badly last night and it's half past one here, so it's my fault and I am now really quitting IRC and going to bed, good night :)
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[tantek] no worries at all Mikaela! it's better if our documentation is more obvious even on less sleep 🙂
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[tantek] so that's a good test 🙂
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