#meta 2019-03-15

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@jgmac1106 @lonseidman You should come to @IndieWebCamp #NHV https://indieweb.org/2019/New_Haven 3/30-3/31 be cool to have http://lon.tv at the event. If busy spread the word on https://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/tech We need to ensure Connecticut helps ensure the future of the web. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/WJPuk) (twitter.com/_/status/1106348267112202240)
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[tantek] uh wow. Guadalajara++
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Loqi Guadalajara has 1 karma over the last year
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[tantek] also already an indie event posted for it!!!
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[tantek] and Nottingham++
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (+385) "/* tags with spaces */ fixed and deployed 2019-070, still need real world post that uses them" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club (+17) "/* Guadalajara Metro Area */ short to Guadalajara to match fragment used to link here from indie event" (view diff)
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@t Event: Homebrew Website Club SF! At: 2019-03-20 17:30 @MozSF RSVP: https://tantek.com/e/4za1 (twitter.com/_/status/1106396630339604480)
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club (+2) "/* San Francisco */ fix indie event link (by posting one first)" (view diff)
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-03-15.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club (+6) "move Guadalajara with Austin to Central Time in order" (view diff)
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[tantek] 🏹 = Nottingham is what I'm deciding
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club (+554) "Nottingham!" (view diff)
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[tantek] https://indieweb.org/events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club#Nottingham
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club (+294) "/* Where */ Nottingham RSVPs, indie event, make London RSVP more discoverable on its own line and bolded event link" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /timeline (+171) "/* Similar Resource */ add web30 / w3c 10th examples" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-55) "update from /Events" (view diff)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ They do still happen, but as they got more popular they got harder to organise as they needed larger venues, so SF and London were tougher. There is a London one this year: https://eleven.barcamplondon.org One successor is Indieweb Camps https://indieweb.org/IndieWebCamps (twitter.com/_/status/1106470744043802625)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ This is the long term goal of http://indieweb.org - and part of it is renormalising the web, and not assuming that venture funded geometric growth is the goal (twitter.com/_/status/1106475527404163077)
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@jgmac1106 Starting the morning setting up @goifoundation on @reclaimhosting. Going to use @withknown and @wikimedia to carve out a little #OER and #IndieWeb network in Ghana Excited to meet with Zita in a few hours (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1ygEVn) (twitter.com/_/status/1106494768375173121)
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@pfefferle ↩️ Hatte ich mir sogar schon angeschaut :) Ich arbeite aktuell an mehreren Plugins die von einem Freunde/Following Feature profitieren könnten: * https://wordpress.org/plugins/ostatus-for-wordpress/ * https://wordpress.org/plugins/indieweb/ * https://wordpress.org/plugins/activitypub/ Vielleicht können wir uns ja mal austauschen. (twitter.com/_/status/1106504376439488514)
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jkphl.is edited /events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club (+12) "/* Nürnberg */" (view diff)
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@depone Der #HomebrewWebsiteClub in Karlsruhe trifft sich nächsten Mittwoch auch wieder: https://indieweb.org/events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club#Karlsruhe (twitter.com/_/status/1106517642494513153)
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@beacrea ↩️ @Bishopanonymous @rejcx http://Indieweb.org is a good place to start. I've met some of the founders here in San Francisco. (twitter.com/_/status/1106556565203480576)
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[ken] Thanks for the cheers [tantek] I have some former students interested, we shall see how it goes.
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@Dries AutoAuth looks interesting, @EddieHinkle https://eddiehinkle.com/2019/03/11/10/article/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1106568987243089921)
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eddiehinkle.com edited /Planning (-123) "/* Planned */ remove IWC Online from Planning page" (view diff)
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kevinmarks.com edited /AutoAuth (+112) "/* Naming */" (view diff)
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@calum_ryan Another addition to the UK #indieweb HWC meetups » (https://www.jvt.me/posts/2019/03/14/homebrew-website-club-nottingham/) (https://calumryan.com/note/2495) (twitter.com/_/status/1106631752230023169)
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[tantek] Nottingham++
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Loqi Nottingham has 2 karma over the last year
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tantek.com edited /2019/Online (-3) "was, verb tenses etc." (view diff)
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[tantek] Anyone else review the newsletter for details to fix? https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-03-15.html
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[tantek] whoa 9 HWC next week? is that a new record?
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[tantek] no wait Nottingham isn't even listed
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[tantek] DRY violation between /events and https://indieweb.org/events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club
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tantek.com edited /next-iwc (+6) "r--" (view diff)
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[tantek] looks like New Haven gets a tree emoji for being Elm City 🌳
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tantek.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (-2) "next hwc and iwc" (view diff)
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[tantek] Nickname(s): The Elm City per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haven
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club (+1) "🌳 for New Haven Elm City" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2019/New_Haven (+18) "emojicon 🌳" (view diff)
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[tantek] Based the past few months, I'm thinking of skipping HWC SF when it collides with WaffleJS. They've been holding a great set of talks with diverse speakers, and I'd rather go participate than organize something which competes with that.
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[tantek] (WaffleJS in SF is the First Wednesday of the month)
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[tantek] any objections? (and if so, I'm expecting you to step up and help co-organize 🙂 )
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gRegorLove when is IWC New Haven?
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Loqi what
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gRegorLove what is IWC New Haven?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "IWC New Haven" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "IWC New Haven is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegorLove IWC New Haven is /2019/New_Haven
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /IWC_New_Haven (+27) "prompted by gRegorLove and redirect added by gRegorLove" (view diff)
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gRegorLove when is IWC New Haven?
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Loqi IndieWebCamp New Haven 2019 is on 2019-03-30 at Southern Connecticut State University https://indieweb.org/IWC_New_Haven
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[tantek] nice
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (+154) "/* Planned */ +New Haven" (view diff)
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] looks like IWC NH lacks a summary description - see Newsletter for what it looks like currently: https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-03-15.html
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /2019/New_Haven (-263) "/* IndieWebCamp New Haven 2019 */" (view diff)
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /2019/New_Haven (+255) "removed stub added dfn" (view diff)
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gRegorLove [tantek], I think Berlin and Summit can be moved to "Planned" from "Save the Date" right?
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gRegorLove Utrecht still looks tbd on venue
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[tantek] that sounds right
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[tantek] we need to get the tito sign-ups setup for Berlin and Summit! (venue & dates are confirmed)
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[tantek] any help appreciated with that!
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[tantek] should hopefully be able to clone from 2018? Berlin is same venue, Summit is same venue as 2017
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gRegorLove checks https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org
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gRegorLove tito is up for summit
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tantek.com edited /Events (+4725) "/* Upcoming */ , April, May, June HWC events, WaffleJS for SF, bt dus, acc dus" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2019/Düsseldorf (-17) "go register (no more save the date)" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Events (+77) "/* Upcoming */ link speaking" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Who are organizers for Berlin? Don't see it listed on the wiki
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tantek.com edited /2019/New_Haven (-9) "/* RSVP */ active, call-out with list item" (view diff)
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gRegorLove nvm, found it lower on /Planning
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (+66) "mv Berlin, Summit to Planned" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2019/New_Haven (+45) "+p-summary" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] tantek they have this up: http://goifnetwork.org/events/2019/goif-indieweb-kick-off been spinning up instances for people all day, didn't get to "how to add yourself to wiki"
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club (-19) "/* Where */ adjust time zones, that tricky week when US is in DST, and UK/EU is not" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club (+3) "New Haven sounds like it is on from @jgmac1106's previous edits" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Events (+163) "/* March */ update HWC cities" (view diff)
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[tantek] [eddie] is Virtual Americas happening next week? HWC 2019-03-20 still links to your indie event for last week https://indieweb.org/events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club#Where (though commented out currently in the HTML)
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[tantek] a few more events should show up in the newsletter now, added april, may, june HWCs, may btconf with indieweb talk
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[eddie] Nope, no Virtual Americas next week
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club (+414) "/* Where */ added Accra" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] dammit
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[tantek] uh oh what?
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tantek.com edited /2019/Düsseldorf (+3238) "copy some more sections from 2018 to here" (view diff)
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club (+486) "/* Where */ added Accra correctly" (view diff)
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metafluff.com edited /events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club (+42) "/* San Francisco */" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] nothing a rollback didn't fix sorry for cursing
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] no worries. hey is it UTC or CET? abbr title says one thing, element text says another
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[jgmac1106] I didn't want to add the event to the wiki for them but it is late and no on eis around, supposed to be UTC
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[jgmac1106] fixed
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[jgmac1106] I didn't know there password to the Known event page to sign in
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[jgmac1106] their*
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club (+8) "move Accr per time" (view diff)
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[tantek] so that'll be 10 HWC!
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[tantek] new record pretty sure
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-03-15.html
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tantek.com edited /Events (+35) "/* March */ +Accra HWC! New!" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club (+8) "new Accra!" (view diff)
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[tantek] phew! Accra made it in!
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[tantek] [jgmac1106]++
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Loqi [jgmac1106] has 54 karma in this channel over the last year (129 in all channels)
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[tantek] That's all I saw to fix. 9 min left!
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+100) "update from /Events" (view diff)
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@jgmac1106 Announcing @IndieWebCamp New Haven Keynote: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/03/15/announcing-indiewebcamp-new-haven-keynote (twitter.com/_/status/1106683192365461504)
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@jackyalcine Until I figure out how to share content more flexibly, I’ll just link. Here’s the recording of the Groups session from IndieWebCamp Online - https://youtu.be/YQ4Sf6IuBHE. (https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/0ec7bb0c-06df-473e-a452-3273d15586c5) (twitter.com/_/status/1106684617745223680)
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-03-22.html
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[tantek] oh hey DST error
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[tantek] it was already sent out ~1hr ago
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[tantek] !tell sknebel can you update https://indieweb.org/events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club#Virtual_European_Time with precise details of where / how to join the Virtual EU HWC? Also https://indieweb.org/Virtual_HWC still says Mumble - is that true? Thought y'all had switch to jitsi
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] what is HWC
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club is a bi-weekly meetup of people passionate about or interested in creating, improving, building, designing their own website, in the same structure as the classic Homebrew Computer Club meetings https://indieweb.org/hwc
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[tantek] I think we've grown quite beyond that
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[tantek] and it's not just hobbyists with their own website - that's too narrow
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[tantek] <!here> how's this as a new dfn:
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[tantek] The Homebrew Website Club is a growing world-wide network of all levels of web users who want to take back control of their online identities and content from social media content silos.
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[tantek] trying it out here for an example: https://wiki.mozilla.org/WeeklyUpdates/2019-03-18#Homebrew_Website_Club
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[grantcodes] Depends on the goal of the dfn, could be shortened and retain the majority of the meaning
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Loqi [grantcodes]: [eddie] left you a message 4 days, 21 hours ago: Great Idea! the funny thing is that is actually what the ad-hoc session page is! It’s got a place to add and +1 topics as well as some standard ideas for timing, etc.
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[grantcodes] Homebrew Website Club is a world-wide network of people who want to take control of their online identities and content - think that gets across the same idea
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@ken_bauer Currently talking to my #TC2004 class about #Indieweb. (https://known.kenbauer.me/s/hi0Iz) (twitter.com/_/status/1106693952365912064)
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[jackjamieson] To me, that definition of HWC overlaps my definition of IndieWeb, whereas the previous definition differentiated the two
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gRegorLove +1 for keeping "meetup" in the dfn somewhere
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gRegorLove what is Indieweb Meetup?
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Loqi IndieWeb Meetup is a local event where people can gather to learn more about the IndieWeb community https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb_Meetup
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-03-15.html https://t.co/D2JB8DWdBE (twitter.com/_/status/1106695331301847040)
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[kevinmarks] Did wafflejs change their time? I have done hwc followed by wafflejs before
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[tantek] There is some overlap yes, and the venues are far enough apart to be impractical without a bicycle or other method of rapid transport without parking hassle, so in practice no one has done both since you 🙂
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[tantek] grantcodes I think adding the "back ... from social media" indicates we are addressing a very real and present problem that people can relate to
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[tantek] whereas " take control of their online identities and content" by itself sounds abstract and detached from any motivation
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[tantek] [gRegorLove] agreed about keeping "meetup" explicitly
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[tantek] "The Homebrew Website Club is a growing world-wide network of meetups for all levels of web users who want to take back control of their online identities and content from social media silos."
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[tantek] (minor edits: de-dupe "content", add "meetups of")
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@ken_bauer Reminder that this #IndieWeb event is on Wednesday at @TECcampusGDL on the patio outside the library. Feel free to just show up but if you are not a student/staff of the campus, contact me (DM here if you like) so I can ensure your entry to the campus. https://known.kenbauer.me/2019/03/14/homebrew-website-club---guadalajara---march-20-2019 (twitter.com/_/status/1106702066288865285)