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@jgmac1106 @venturafolk we should totally set up an #IndieWeb Domains of One Own project at https://la.schools.sd68.bc.ca/ and then I read https://www.sd68.bc.ca/connected/2019-spring/?page=8 and saw you already do portfolios with @edublogs (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1CjBrK) (twitter.com/_/status/1109996893504000001)
# @jgmac1106 If you have public examples and allowed to share be great to add to https://indieweb.org/Education
Been trying to convince @edublogs folks to add SemPress theme and IndieWeb plugins.
So many people want the IndieWeb toys on @edublogs
Still we should… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/03/25/if-you-have-public-examples-and-allowed (twitter.com/_/status/1109998208095322112)
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@DivulgacoesLisa BOX A HORA PERDIDA
https://www.amazon.com.br/dp/B07J3DHT4Z
#indiehiphop #indiehighlights #indiemusic #IndieMovie #indiepop #indiepub #indierock #indieradio #IndieSelect #indiestonerrap #indievideogames #indieweek #indiewriters #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/1110011089809481730)
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@swentel ↩️ @sonniesedge Aah, ok. Check https://github.com/swentel/indieweb/issues/403 :) (twitter.com/_/status/1110151360924844032)
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@_am1t That's very similar to the idea behind Microsub - "it decouples managing subscriptions and delivering content from the presentation of that content." I have enjoyed using the clients that support it. https://indieweb.org/Microsub #scriptingnews http://scripting.com/2019/03/25.html#a131235 (twitter.com/_/status/1110200244820758528)
# @jgmac1106 Session Room One for @IndieWebCamp New Haven https://t.co/BdjUzuJYCK (twitter.com/_/status/1110204104935120896)
# @jgmac1106 Session Room Two for IndieWebCamp New Haven https://t.co/gApIZImQ0y (twitter.com/_/status/1110204462038171649)
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# @jgmac1106 Common Room Space for @IndieWebCamp https://t.co/6uHlPYgpOK (twitter.com/_/status/1110208014534000642)
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@jackjamieson IndieWebCamp New Haven 2019 is a gathering for independent web creators of all kinds, from graphic artists, to designers, UX engineers, coders, hackers, to share ideas, actively work on creating for their own personal websites, and build upon each others… https://jackjamieson.net/?p=4997 (twitter.com/_/status/1110209537989062656)
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# @jgmac1106 Glad to see another RSVP for @indiewebcamp New Haven: https://jackjamieson.net/4997-2/ Many of the best minds in #edtechchat #digped and #openpedagogy joining for free two-day conference: https://indieweb.org/2019/New_Haven (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/ITrt1) (twitter.com/_/status/1110218355384991744)
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[jgmac1106] !tell jacky new mission add a printstyle sheet to the 2019.indieweb.org pages for a one page handout....
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@fncll ↩️ @jgmac1106 @indiewebcamp I'm on Pacific Time now, so it's possible. What's the general gist of the session? (twitter.com/_/status/1110223521609740289)
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@lindner ↩️ I actually _write_ all my content using self-hosted #indieweb techniques these days. I was just curious if actual authors feel that Medium is something that benefits them; if so I'd pay to help support good writing. (twitter.com/_/status/1110226949853446145)
# @jgmac1106 ↩️ Every @indiewebcamp is an unconference so the gist of the session is what YOU make it. https://boffosock.com proposed it and it will focus more on self hosting books...but how we do commonplace book is how we write the uncommon book. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/e2KfD) (twitter.com/_/status/1110227051024396289)
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@cleverdevil Yes: Looking forward to attending my third consecutive IndieWeb Summit in Portland, OR!: https://cleverdevil.io/2019/yes-looking-forward-to-attending-my-third-consecutive-indieweb-summit (twitter.com/_/status/1110229123807481856)
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[cleverdevil] Hmm... my RSVP isn't showing up on the Summit page. Maybe it just takes a few minutes?
# [cleverdevil] I haven't booked yet... hoping to do so tonight.
# [cleverdevil] Was waiting to see if my family was going to join again. Sounds like "no," which is a bummer in some ways, but does mean that I'll be more open to attending evening festivities like karaoke 🙂
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@frankmeeuwsen ↩️ Kom op 18 en 19 mei langs op het IndieWebCamp wat ik organiseer in Utrecht. Daar werken we aan die protocollen en een open en inclusief web ipv het corporate web wat er nu is. Zie https://diggingthedigital.com/wat-is-een-indiewebcamp/ voor iets meer achtergrond. (twitter.com/_/status/1110244063201112066)
# @jgmac1106 A great primer on how #IndieWeb and #OpenPedagogy have run on parallel tracks for years.. Time to hook the engines together and get this locomotive really moving https://cathieleblanc.com/2019/03/24/alternative-to-the-corporate-web/ #digped (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/12Lvin) (twitter.com/_/status/1110249203333300225)
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# @jgmac1106 @CECACT If you have a member listserv can you share out details about this free conference in New Haven: https://indieweb.org/2019/New_Haven #ctedu #edtechchat (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/2asdkN) (twitter.com/_/status/1110265065545105412)
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# @jgmac1106 @DavidJHuber Can you share this free conference with any of your teachers: https://indieweb.org/2019/New_Haven (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/7kK9a) (twitter.com/_/status/1110266491881095168)
# @jgmac1106 @daveandcori If you are around this weekend at all you should pop into https://indieweb.org/2019/New_Haven (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/4btkk) (twitter.com/_/status/1110266899995258881)
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[tantek] Ah, adactio posted the HWC Brighton photo to his own site, but we didn't get it in the Newsletter! https://adactio.com/notes/14976
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# [jgmac1106] I would love that it would be great: I made this https://jgregorymcverry.com/hwcpagetutorial.html and need to do a text version
# [jgmac1106] ohh that is an idea so I just reply to https://indieweb.org/events/2019-03-20-homebrew-website-club#New_Haven? for example
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# [jgmac1106] when something gets syndicated to IndieNews if it has an image with a u-featured property does that get displayed? the first image? no image....it was a lot of work to figure out the process
# [jgmac1106] my first time I made a stand alone New Haven page and put posts and photos there, other people update the individual HWC event page but forget to add city name to main event page..think its just organizer onboarding
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# [jgmac1106] I messed up my first few times..thus video tutorila series (though I have newsletter deadline wrong) need to re-records
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# [jgmac1106] maybe on us as well, if an HWC has a "new" tag...thought Birghton wasn't new but restarted..we should be cognizant and help
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@voxpelli Swedish @socialdemokrat believes, like many other proponents, that article 11 and 13 will improve the strength of the copyright holders.
It’s instead likely that they will hurt @indiewebcamp, @MastodonProject etc. who would else have given creators increased control. (twitter.com/_/status/1110295865074307074)
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# loqi.me edited /php_architect (+226) "[tantek] added "https://twitter.com/DavidWolfpaw/status/1108916061607522305" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "IW" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "IW is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# Loqi The Internet Identity Workshop is a workshop held twice a year that focuses on identity issues https://indieweb.org/IIW
# tantek.com edited /Internet_Identity_Workshop (+411) "add indieweb relevance to dfn, direct session links for each year" (view diff)
# Loqi The Internet Identity Workshop is a workshop held twice a year that focuses on identity issues where several IndieWeb related sessions have been held over the years https://indieweb.org/IIW
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# tantek.com edited /quotation (+148) "How to general section, How to POSSE with Bridgy Publish quote tweet instructions" (view diff)
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# [tantek] php architect < 2019-03 (physical issue) [https://www.phparch.com/article/wordpress-and-the-indieweb-why-you-should-own-your-voice/ WordPress and the IndieWeb—Why You Should Own Your Voice] <blockquote>We’re going to look at the IndieWeb, it’s philosophy, and some ways to make your websites IndieWeb friendly, giving you the ability to create and post content, but also to share it and let others interact with it on your terms, not those o
# [tantek] php architect << 2019-03 (physical issue) [https://www.phparch.com/article/wordpress-and-the-indieweb-why-you-should-own-your-voice/ WordPress and the IndieWeb—Why You Should Own Your Voice] <blockquote>We’re going to look at the IndieWeb, it’s philosophy, and some ways to make your websites IndieWeb friendly, giving you the ability to create and post content, but also to share it and let others interact with it on your terms, not those
# Loqi ok, I added "2019-03 (physical issue) [https://www.phparch.com/article/wordpress-and-the-indieweb-why-you-should-own-your-voice/ WordPress and the IndieWeb—Why You Should Own Your Voice] <blockquote>We’re going to look at the IndieWeb, it’s philosophy, and some ways to make your websites IndieWeb friendly, giving you the ability to create and post content, but also to share it and let others interact with it on your terms, not those " to the "See Also" section of /php_architect https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=58578&oldid=58577
# tantek.com created /events/2019-03-28-homebrew-website-club (+2917) "Brighton on Thursdays!" (view diff)
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# [tantek] This is a great article that places IndieWeb as an important step forward from Web 2.0: https://cathieleblanc.com/2019/03/24/alternative-to-the-corporate-web/
# [tantek] also has another criticism and suggested replacement for /selfdogfood !
# [jgmac1106] Tantek... I already added the criticism..
# [jgmac1106] Going to be a great session.
# [jgmac1106] Plymouth State University is adding an IndieWeb track to their open pedagogy cohort. Should be cool
# [tantek] her criticism was specifically /selfdogfood and so were her replacement phrases. adding now
# tantek.com edited /selfdogfood (+708) "/* Brainstorming */ note additional similar rephrasings to selfdogfood use what you build and use what you make" (view diff)
# [tantek] [jgmac1106] we were already considering a very similar replacement (to what she used). See this and add your own opinion: https://indieweb.org/selfdogfood#use_what_you_create
# tantek.com edited /selfdogfood (+116) "note John Seely Brown said "Use what you build" in 2015" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /selfdogfood (+136) "/* use what you build */ context of Cathie's article" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /selfdogfood (+161) "/* use what you make */ apparently we replace selfdogfood with this in the summary of that principle as of 2017-09-24" (view diff)
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# tantek.com edited /selfdogfood (+296) "move alternatives we effectively rejected to a separate section to make it easier to consider actual alternatives we are considering" (view diff)
# [tantek] alright I cleaned up the brainstorming a bit more. I think we're down to a few fairly good alternatives. Add your opinions folks! https://indieweb.org/selfdogfood#Brainstorming
# [jgmac1106] gwg I just got home. Lemme do the dinner and bedtime routine and I will hop back online
# [tantek] For the moment I'm going to make /different consistent with /principles, which uses "Use what you make" as a summary for the principle which embodies "selfdogfood"
# tantek.com edited /different (+94) "change selfdogfood point summary to match what is on /principles since 2017: Use what you make" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /principles (+12) "summarize scratch your own itch with the primary replacement wording on its brainstorming page "Make what you need", also consistent with the next point "use what you make"" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+307) "update from /Events" (view diff)
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# [tantek] worth adding to IndieNews: https://cathieleblanc.com/2019/03/24/alternative-to-the-corporate-web/
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# [jgmac1106] Let me ping Cathie. She can add it
# [jgmac1106] Where is the best how-to link?
# Loqi IndieNews is an indieweb news aggregator, similar to Hacker News, which only accepts submissions via webmention https://indieweb.org/IndieNews
# [jgmac1106] OMG Rose is that the Summit or Berlin you were talking about?
# [jgmac1106] Thx! Will ping Cathie in a bit...
# [jgmac1106] How do you handle the lumping of everything under the "semantic web" and "Web 3.0?"
# [jgmac1106] Didn't get into it on Cathie's piece but pointed out different metadata definitions and the more pop culture term of semantic web/web3.0
# [jgmac1106] On Twitter with technical people
# [jgmac1106] Not really meta anymore
# [tantek] [jgmac1106] such lumping kind of is, especially when documented by templates like this at Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Semantic_Web
# [jgmac1106] I don't understand what you just shared.
# [jgmac1106] Might start a science fiction novel where a crew stumbles on alien ruins and reads a tablet that says "The above documentation is transcluded from Template:Semantic Web/doc. (edit | history)
# [jgmac1106] Editors can experiment in this template's sandbox (create | mirror) and testcases"
# [tantek] e.g. see the bottom of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microformat#External_links