#meta 2019-04-03

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@tomwiththeweath Austin Homebrew Website Club meets tomorrow at Mozart's coffee at 6:30pm https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club (twitter.com/_/status/1113249951658708994)
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mblaney ^woot Brisbane Australia! :-)
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mblaney loqi can I get a woot?
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Loqi 😃
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mblaney that will do, thanks Loqi
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@cowglow That's one of the causes of the #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1113315194485321728)
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@JamieTanna Who else is excited for #HomebrewWebsiteClub #Nottingham tonight at Ludorati? https://www.jvt.me/events/homebrew-website-club-nottingham/2019/04/03/?utm_medium=twitter (twitter.com/_/status/1113345275911921666)
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@RosemaryOrchard IndieWebCamp Berlin: https://wp.me/p5qelV-yA https://t.co/FvBnhLhjAi (twitter.com/_/status/1113383923130748928)
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[Rose] Dang it
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swentel hmm still in doubt whether I will attend Berlin or not
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Zegnat I am working on my Utrecht & Berlin pitch to my boss today
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Zegnat Also working on getting the Berlin event page up, with ti.to ticketing.
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swentel can't make it to utrecht sadly enough, on holiday then
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swentel but it's a great city
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Zegnat We did HWC at Utrecht Central Station a couple times, actually
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[Rose] I am looking forward to both, and Düsseldorf. But I also like flying 😉
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Zegnat I actually do not mind flying in the slightest, I mind everything around the flying :P
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Zegnat !tell tantek We had a limit of 58 on previous Berlin, 55 registrations, of which ~30% showed
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Zegnat !tell tantek Should I confirm those numbers with someone? Yulia?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG swentel, I am coming to Berlin
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swentel GWG, oh, might be a good moment to test the custom MQTT integration
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GWG How?
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swentel well it's probably easier if I can sit next to someone how has a custom one
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swentel to fix on the spot
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swentel I can always send a custom build of course too, or maybe use the development service, might be an option as well.
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GWG Would be happy to hack with you
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Zegnat Hmm. MQTT session in Berlin? Now that is something I can add in the pitch to my boss!
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swentel I'd have to leave on sunday though, so would only be saturday (and friday optionally too of course)
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[Rose] Zegnat sign me up.
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Zegnat You are signed up for everything, [Rose]
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GWG A little swentel is better then no swentel
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GWG I have a roommate need for Friday and Saturday nights.
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GWG And I assume I have good reviews from Zegnat
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@shsabrams ↩️ @jgmac1106 @evanortlieb @indiewebcamp @SCSU Sorry to have missed it, @jgmac1106. Can’t wait to hear how it went. Will you be at AERA? (twitter.com/_/status/1113411261860020224)
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GWG waits for the h-review
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Zegnat I still want to work on the personal h-review feature, GWG. But that is probably not a -meta discussion ;)
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GWG It was more a comment on how sometimes my less than serious suggestions are taken seriously
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petermolnar personal h-review, is that a review of a h-card of a person?
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petermolnar (no, I'm not serious)
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GWG My review of Zegnat's h-card....Big
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@jgmac1106 Zita Joins the @Goifoundation HombreWebSite Club Meeting #IndieWeb https://t.co/Vj7TvkA6dj (twitter.com/_/status/1113420597562957825)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ but https://david.shanske.com really wants to get a local #IndieWeb chapter going in Queens so he doesn't have to drive to Manhattan...funny I can get there from New Haven faster...thought maybe you and/or Evan could co-sponsor so he can get space, better… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/04/03/but-really-wants-to-get-a (twitter.com/_/status/1113428880285683712)
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@jgmac1106 Hombrew Website Club Ghana wraps up with @zuzage, @masssly, @sadike25 and @goifoundation #IndieWeb https://t.co/nZIoexAc5V (twitter.com/_/status/1113431614288166918)
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@ken_bauer ↩️ I am also interested from an #Indieweb perspective on how to do a backfeed of comments about one's own pages to give visibility to that. @jgmac1106 could probably explain that better than my muddled thoughts on it. (twitter.com/_/status/1113439637245169665)
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@ken_bauer ↩️ see here @jgmac1106 I wonder (like I need another project) of a @withknown plugin to do the backfeed on this #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1113440429826093056)
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@WordPressTV David Wolfpaw: WordPress and the IndieWeb – Why You Should Own Your Voice http://wordpress.tv/2019/04/03/david-wolfpaw-wordpress-and-the-indieweb-why-you-should-own-your-voice/ (twitter.com/_/status/1113453964836712450)
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@blondishnet David Wolfpaw: WordPress and the IndieWeb – Why You Should Own Your Voice https://ift.tt/2HX3ulw (twitter.com/_/status/1113455067078844416)
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@itswpshoutout WordPressTV: David Wolfpaw: WordPress and the IndieWeb – Why You Should Own Your Voice http://bit.ly/2KgP69J (twitter.com/_/status/1113455111311958016)
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@NiviJah David Wolfpaw: WordPress and the IndieWeb – Why You Should Own Your Voice https://ift.tt/2HX3ulw (twitter.com/_/status/1113455547225866240)
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[eddie] tantek: Not sure what's going on with the See Also section on this page now: https://indieweb.org/DreamHost#Downtime
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Could also go totally crazy like @ken_bauer and I and start hosting homebrew website clubs in your town or university. Make the digital writing club gLOCAL. Encourage people to first have their personal infrastructure #stuff and #ethos (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/bcjrU) (twitter.com/_/status/1113465095525367809)
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[eddie] I think it's a float clear problem or something? How do you solve that on the wiki?
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@jasonekratz Listened to @TheBigWebShow episode with @t and @zeldman this morning and while I love the Indieweb ideas I just don’t see “normal” people doing this stuff. The barrier to entry is still to high IMHO. (twitter.com/_/status/1113467715119919110)
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[eddie] Thanks! I see!
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[tantek] [eddie], {{clear}} is your friend 🙂
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Loqi [tantek]: Zegnat left you a message 5 hours, 25 minutes ago: We had a limit of 58 on previous Berlin, 55 registrations, of which ~30% showed
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Loqi [tantek]: Zegnat left you a message 5 hours, 21 minutes ago: Should I confirm those numbers with someone? Yulia?
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[eddie] tantek++ for wiki knowledge
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[tantek] [Zegnat] from the photo we had at least 30 people at IWC Berlin
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Zegnat These were the numbers I got from jkphl
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[tantek] maybe some showed up that didn't register?
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[tantek] Zegnat you can look at the photo yourself 🙂 /2018/Berlin#Photos
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Zegnat Possibly. E.g. did all the Moz people sign up on Tito?
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[tantek] alright let's bump it to 75
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[tantek] didn't realize the show/noshow rate was low. still not quite believing it because I remember more people than 18 in person (~30% of 58)
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[tantek] do you mean 30% *didn't* show?
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Zegnat I don't actually know how we handle the numbers. It looks like other events put the same number on regular and IndieRSVP. Do organisers tweak the availability depending on people signing up?
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Zegnat Going to document all these questions when I get home, so we can start standardising.
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[tantek] re: jasonekratz - which stuff? E.g. IndieWeb service micro.blog is plenty accessible to a broad audience and getting lots of uptake.
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[schmarty] uh, that jasonekratz account only has 4 tweets (including replies)
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aaronpk 👏
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@JamieTanna A slightly quieter #HomebrewWebsiteClub, but great nonetheless! A bit more heads-down-and-do-things, and everyone seems to have finished something. Thanks all for coming! (twitter.com/_/status/1113513226866655232)
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Zegnat works to create a wiki page about adding IWC landing pages to 2019.indieweb.org
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Zegnat Thinking it is better to document while I do it
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Zegnat There is some really clever stuff you can do with ti.to, but darn, I am not sure how to turn this into a clear guide
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[jgmac1106] it will be a guide but not clear...you just have to do it once...
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Zegnat But even then. I was looking at the summit. And the steps optimally are:
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Zegnat 1. Add the venue.
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Zegnat 2. Add activities for the days, capped at your venue limit.
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Zegnat 3. Create the tickets, linked to the activities.
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Zegnat !tell aaronpk where does the generic hello email address go, is that the recommended address to use for organiser in Tito?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106] yeah if @snipcart didn't charge $10 a month I would just use that for tickets been loving it...but the integration with ti.to into 2019 works well once you clone events...luckily I never hit capacity
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Zegnat 32 people on group photo for Berlin 1, and I feel like there were at least 3 people with red borders who didn’t go for this. So say we were a solid 35 people. Assuming that to be 70% (thus 30% no show) we would need 50 slots for signups. I am putting it at the previous limit of 58.
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Zegnat I *think* the event is now fully setup. If someone who has setup tito before could have a look at the Berlin event before I push it live, that would be much appreciated! [eddie]? [jgmac1106]?
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[jgmac1106] checking now
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[jgmac1106] zegnat++
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Zegnat Going to have to rethink my documentation. But probably have to wait for tomorrow. I am trying to establish a healthier sleep schedule, so I need to leave, haha
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[jgmac1106] you can go live, everything looks good
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@btopro New video: Installing & understanding HAXcms using MAMP - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NBVwyk0lV8 I walk through downloading a HAXcms zip file & installing via MAMP. Then I show features of HAXcms & explain what it's doing w/o delving too deep into tech #indieweb #NGDLE #edtech #webcomponents (twitter.com/_/status/1113539591015997441)
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@jgmac1106 @kaxline in the education space we call this "privacy through data empowerment" if everything originates on your own domain you already control your privacy. Why we encourage folks to go #DoOO if you are in Portland try to make it to #IndieWeb Summit… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/04/03/kaxline-in-the-education-space-we-call (twitter.com/_/status/1113542379557019650)
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@jgmac1106 Really cool contest by @wikimedia lot of categories. Hope to see some #IndieWeb entries: https://wikimediafoundation.org/2019/03/28/announcing-the-heart-of-knowledge-contest-help-us-illustrate-why-knowledge-matters/ (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1EBkpb) (twitter.com/_/status/1113547593945108480)
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@btopro Learning analytics for all w.o. surveillance #edtech - https://youtu.be/aS8FlanVMcs The prototype shows student centric data viz of what they r doing in HAXcms site. Instructor places "multiple choice" element. Everything just happens & never leaves their device. #indieweb #NGDLE (twitter.com/_/status/1113547792104984577)
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[tantek] [aaronpk] were you able to unlock @indiewebcamp so that !rt (like I just tried in dev) and the newsletter tweets would work again, or do you have a support request stuck in limbo too?
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[tantek] I’m thinking of posting a follow up to the false suspension with a list of all the community & project accounts that Twitter has falsely locked for no reason, without provocation
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[schmarty] HWC NYC starting our quiet writing hour
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[jgmac1106] HWC New Haven Kicks off with quiet hour... Flying solo currently.
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@jgmac1106 The Elm City Webmakers kick off our Homebrew Website Club meeting @scsu we are in Davis 118 for anyone in the #nhv area looking to hack on a personal or classroom website. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1BFJl9) (twitter.com/_/status/1113555747709882369)
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[schmarty] NYC is currently me and a co-worker. hoping [dmitshur] will come, too. would also love to see [tmiller] but i imagine she is occupied.
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[jgmac1106] Yeah the people who came to IWC both rsvpd for me. Hope they make it but if not I may be able to hack on my pwn project which will be nice
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[dmitshur] [schmarty] I’m running late but be there in 30 mins!
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[jgmac1106] still need to shoot down to NYC for one, how close is the venue to Penn Station?
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[schmarty] jgmac1106: its The Bean at 31 3rd Ave #5536, New York, NY 10003
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@johanbove Before visiting http://Indieweb.org, I had no idea that my site was simply missing some pre-defined CSS class-names and a couple of links before I could use it for Web Sign-in. Awesome. (twitter.com/_/status/1113559617412521985)
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@johanbove #IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf 2019, the fifth IndieWebCamp in #Düsseldorf, will be 11-12 May 2019, right before the #beyondtellerrand conference in Düsseldorf https://indieweb.org/2019/D%C3%BCsseldorf (twitter.com/_/status/1113561943963570181)
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[ketudb] is there any page/doc explaining the various bots etc? they're awfully confusing for a newcomer 😉
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sknebel What is Loqi?
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Loqi Loqi is a friendly and useful bot present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/Loqi
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sknebel that's almost the only bot around here (there's also one called Kaja (also has a wiki page), but it doesn't do that much in chat)
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[jgmac1106] not bad schmarty 15 minute cab ride will plan it out
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aaronpk is not a bot
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Loqi aaronpk: Zegnat left you a message 2 hours, 49 minutes ago: where does the generic hello email address go, is that the recommended address to use for organiser in Tito?
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aaronpk Zegnat: the event organizer should use whatever email will go to the organizer depending on the event. The hello address goes to me, maybe also someone else? I don't remember
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[tantek] should setup an email alias for IWC Berlin organizers that forwards
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[ketudb] sknebel: thanks!
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@jgmac1106 I took your last post to show how easy it is to add microformats and turn any webpage into a blog entry that works with #IndieWeb tools....I didn't add all the p, a, and pre tags but you can see how logical microformats are for the social web: … https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/04/03/i-took-your-last-post-to-show (twitter.com/_/status/1113580317204525061)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ @johanbove I took your last post to show how easy it is to add microformats and turn any webpage into a blog entry that works with #IndieWeb tools....I didn't add all the p, a, and pre tags but you can see how logical microformats are for the social web: http://bit.ly/2HYaLl4 (twitter.com/_/status/1113581136859598854)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ you probably have enough front-end skills to roll most of the #IndieWeb building blocks into your current approach. I use a hybrid approach with a few static pages on my website and let @withknown handle most of my social stream. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1v0QaB) (twitter.com/_/status/1113581521473036288)
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@ken_bauer ↩️ I am here early to grab some space. Quiet writing hour starts at 5:30pm, #HomebrewWebsite meeting at 6:30pm to 7:30pm. Drop in @TECcampusGDL library patio. Let's talk and share about the #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1113581897739902977)
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aaronpk I can do that. Let me know who to forward to. Send me an email or PM if you don't want your emails in the logs :-)
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@ken_bauer ↩️ I created a placeholder page for meeting information and a short url of https://bit.ly/homebrewgdl #IndieWeb https://t.co/YyPNEuFwfO (twitter.com/_/status/1113585025944100865)
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@jgmac1106 @jgmac1106 flying solo tonight at Elm City Webmakers' Homebrew Website Club https://t.co/0falbebzme (twitter.com/_/status/1113585665625739265)
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aaronpk Shoot I thought I had time to come to Düsseldorf but it's looking like the flights don't work out and I'll either arrive late afternoon Saturday or sat evening and miss the first day
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[tantek] And Berlin?
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aaronpk Def can't do both
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@kevinmarks ↩️ @AlecMuffett If indieweb fans get into a dominance argument over syndication in a bar is it a websub pubsubhubbub micropub rubadubdub? (twitter.com/_/status/1113590943687561216)
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GWG aaronpk, which are you going to pick?