#meta 2019-04-12

2019-04-12 UTC
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jacky > distracted
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jacky :(
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Known was also early and also responsible for much of the #IndieWeb growth after 2014. Still think it is best public/private multi user network tool out there. Guess I am just super glad you got distracted. Just think product had market fit.... A few… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/04/12/known-was-also-early-and-also-responsible (twitter.com/_/status/1116495617449185281)
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] who / what are you replying to? Didn’t see it on your site or your POSSE tweets
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Loqi [tantek]: Zegnat left you a message 4 days, 10 hours ago: could you review https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/pull/31 ? Once reviewed/merged it will be live and it can be promoted to get signups going
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[tantek] Still true? Hoping someone took care of that
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GWG [tantek]: Which?
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[jgmac1106] Dang it. . Must have missed my reply context... Will fix later
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-04-12.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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[shaners] [aaronpk] Were you able to accept ownership in the Heroku invite emails?
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[eddie] !tell tantek: nope, looks like that PR is still open
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [github] Pull request merged by EdwardHinkle: https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/pull/31
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed indieweb/2019.indieweb.org
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[eddie] There we go
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Loqi [github] Pull request opened by EdwardHinkle: https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/pull/33
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[eddie] If anyone (ping aaronpk Zegnat tantek schmarty) can review and merge that, it’s a fix for a missed date/location on the Berlin page that is live
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ Come on in, the water's fine! There's a growing group of educators, researchers, librarians, and technologists listed in the IndieWeb wiki. And here's the start of a list on @microdotblog. #edTech #DoOO #phdchat #librarycarpentry https://indieweb.org/Indieweb_for_Education https://boffosocko.com/2019/04/11/55748636/ (twitter.com/_/status/1116596152940384258)
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Zegnat [eddie], that’s why there is review, so the page doesn’t go live with mistakes like this ;) Will accept and merge, thanks!
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Loqi [github] Pull request merged by Zegnat: https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/pull/33
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed indieweb/2019.indieweb.org
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sknebel p-locality should be p-country-name
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Zegnat can’t do coding at current seminar. Can you file a PR for me to accept, sknebel?
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sknebel Once I'm in the office
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Loqi [github] Pull request opened by sknebel: https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/pull/34
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sknebel Zegnat: ^^^
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Zegnat Argh, I keep ending up in my wrong GitHub account
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Loqi [github] Pull request merged by Zegnat: https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/pull/34
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed indieweb/2019.indieweb.org
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aaronpk [shaners] thanks, saw the invites but haven't had a chance to do that yet
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aaronpk should be all done now, thanks!
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aaronpk i made a new team account and moved them all there
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-307) "update from /Events" (view diff)
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Zegnat Should we add this to /discuss? https://matrix.org/blog/2019/04/11/security-incident/
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Loqi [Matthew Hodgson] We have discovered and addressed a security breach.
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@swentel ↩️ Update: pushed a new release of Indigenous which fixes a bug for new registrations, it should all work fine now! #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1116628292096802817)
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[tantek] Eddie++ thanks for takin care of the PR review!
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Loqi [tantek]: [eddie] left you a message 5 hours, 9 minutes ago: nope, looks like that PR is still open
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Loqi Eddie has 29 karma in this channel over the last year (93 in all channels)
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loqi.me created /Lwa (+271) "prompted by jacky and dfn added by jacky" (view diff)
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jacky.wtf edited /Lwa (-94) "updating links" (view diff)
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@jgmac1106 All I wanted to do was save a guestbook entry to my website, but then "if you give a mouse a cookie"...now I am trying to learn to build my own CMS for my website (mouse or masochist..dunno) but made it far today http://myfirstcms.jgregorymcverry.com/public/index.php #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/24RJtM) (twitter.com/_/status/1116654316671111168)
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notiz.blog edited /User:Notiz.blog (-28) "/* other projects */" (view diff)
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Jeremycherfas Virtual EU still showing for 1 May on This Week in the Indieweb.
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sknebel oh, that got copied further than I noticed then. can you fix it? otherwise I'll do it tonight
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Jeremycherfas I can't fix it from TWITIW but I can try the page that it is being pulled from.
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Jeremycherfas There is no text at https://indieweb.org/events/2019-05-01-homebrew-website-club so not sure where to look.
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Jeremycherfas Ah, got it.
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www.jeremycherfas.net edited /Events (-93) "/* May */ Remove vHWC-CEST from Wednesdays" (view diff)
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www.jeremycherfas.net edited /Events (-62) "/* June */ and June" (view diff)
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@MarcDrummond The web feels so so broken particularly in the social media in which I am typing this. This is why. I keep meaning to explore IndieWeb which maybe sounds promising? I just don’t know if I have the time. Maybe. (twitter.com/_/status/1116711138186579968)
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[eddie] Zegnat: far point. I typically look at the “changes” but the problem with that is it doesn’t tell you what DIDN’T change. So really I need to go to that branch and look at the entire file included what HASNT changed when reviewing
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[eddie] Because everything you changed looked good. But it didn’t show what hadn’t been changed
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sknebel hm, having a staging version could be nice, so you can see what the full page would look like
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sknebel on the other hand, we hadn't shared the link yet
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sknebel so remembering/reminding to check the resulting page after merge to quickly fix things that appear off has worked
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[shaners] [aaronpk] Thanks again for taking those on. I hope that have bright and shiny futures. ❤
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[shaners] If anyone ever needs to reach me, email is best, as I’m signing out of these channels for now. veganstraightedge@gmail.com
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[schmarty] thanks for all the things! shaners++
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Loqi shaners has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (8 in all channels)
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[shaners] It was my pleasure, [schmarty] 🙂
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@Paulmicha Along the lines of #IndieWeb on #LetsFixThis perhaps #IEML might be relevant for people interested in better communication (and alternative takes at some of the problems the #SemanticWeb tried to address). And #ActivityPub, #Dat, #SecureScuttleButt, #Holochain... (twitter.com/_/status/1116810433204191232)
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GWG We need indieweb hats
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[tantek] like caps?
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[tantek] alright, back to more urgent matters. Newsletter is not "done" done yet right? still have a few minutes?
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-04-12.html
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[tantek] can someone indienews this? I believe it is appropriate silo criticism / advocacy for owning your permalinks (or at least those you tattoo on your body) https://twitter.com/i/moments/1116464528831553536
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[tantek] [aaronpk] did you fix the timezone bug we noticed two weeks ago with the final newsletter generation coming an hour too late?
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[tantek] otherwise that version above is the final version
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[tantek] I'm not even sure if we filed a GitHub issue for it which is probably my bad
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[tantek] Didn't find a this week HWC Brighton photo on adactio.com but I did find this which is vaguely indieweb related (regarding the barriers and gate-keeping around the ability to independently create your own website) https://adactio.com/journal/15050
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[tantek] Newsletter is looking pretty good (except for absence of photos which is normal for an off-regular-HWC week)
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[tantek] ooh [chrisaldrich] posed a WordCamp Santa Clarita photo but not on the event
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@manton2 Zeldman on the IndieWeb: https://www.manton.org/2019/04/12/zeldman-on-the.html (twitter.com/_/status/1116819968035840006)
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-04-06-WordCamp-Santa-Clarita-Valley (+307) "/* Photos */ add a Chris Aldrich photo" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-04-06-WordCamp-Santa-Clarita-Valley (+45) "more alt" (view diff)
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[tantek] let's see if that works
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[tantek] what is LetsFixIt
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "LetsFixIt" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "LetsFixIt is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] LetsFixIt is a hashtag (#LetsFixIt) proposed by Jeffrey Zeldman at the end of his 2019-04-11 A List Apart article [https://alistapart.com/article/nothing-fails-like-success/ Nothing Fails Like Success] as a rallying point to share thoughts about the IndieWeb as an approach to solving the problems of “the internet, 2019” that has garnered some notable responses.
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /LetsFixIt (+394) "prompted by [tantek] and dfn added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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[tantek] LetsFixIt << {{manton}}: [https://www.manton.org/2019/04/12/zeldman-on-the.html Zeldman on the IndieWeb]
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Loqi ok, I added "{{manton}}: [https://www.manton.org/2019/04/12/zeldman-on-the.html Zeldman on the IndieWeb]" to a brand new "See Also" section of /LetsFixIt https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=59173&oldid=59172
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loqi.me edited /LetsFixIt (+111) "[tantek] added "{{manton}}: [https://www.manton.org/2019/04/12/zeldman-on-the.html Zeldman on the IndieWeb]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi Zeldman on the IndieWeb
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[tantek] LetsFixIt << Brent Simmons: http://inessential.com/2019/04/11/jeffrey_zeldman_nothing_fails_like_succe
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Loqi ok, I added "Brent Simmons: http://inessential.com/2019/04/11/jeffrey_zeldman_nothing_fails_like_succe" to the "See Also" section of /LetsFixIt https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=59174&oldid=59173
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[tantek] oops
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tantek.com moved /LetsFixIt to /LetsFixThis "typo misremembered"
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tantek.com edited /LetsFixThis (+38) "actually let's fix this article first" (view diff)
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[tantek] LetsFixThis << https://twitter.com/hashtag/letsfixthis?f=tweets&vertical=default
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/hashtag/letsfixthis?f=tweets&vertical=default" to the "See Also" section of /LetsFixThis https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=59178&oldid=59177
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tantek.com edited /Loqi (+282) "details on Feature Request with reasons why" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (+0) "next hwc" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /next-hwc (+0) "next" (view diff)
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[tantek] has anyone tried https://2019.indieweb.org/berlin ? Is it good to go?
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Loqi IndieWebCamp Berlin
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[tantek] [Rose] ^^^ you're coming to IWC Berlin right? Were you able to successfully indie RSVP to that and/or register for a ticket?
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tantek.com edited /2019/Berlin (+6) "we have a Tito link! Thanks Zegnat++" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2019/Berlin (+14) "s/Guest Book/Project Goals" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-04-19.html
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[tantek] yes ^^^ that bug - note that it happened an hour later than 3pm Pacific time, and the URL is to *next week's* newsletter
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chrisaldrich srsly Loqi? You left all the good stuff out of the newsletter again...
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chrisaldrich jinks!
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gRegorLove Maybe we should adjust it to UTC
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boffosocko.com edited /hashtags (+1172) "IndieWeb-centric hashtags: #ownyourdata, #newwwyear, #LetsFixThis" (view diff)
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gRegorLove what is this week?
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Loqi This Week in the IndieWeb is a weekly digest of activities of the IndieWeb community https://indieweb.org/this-week
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gRegorLove looks into https://github.com/indieweb/this-week
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Loqi [indieweb] this-week: Weekly digest of IndieWebCamp activity
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chrisaldrich Maybe Loqi is trying to entice schmarty to restart the podcast by making it seem like there's less to cover? ;)
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gRegorLove hehe
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GWG Seemed like a slow week to me
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chrisaldrich Chat in some places did seem slow, but there was still a good bit happening behind the scenes.
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (+1762) "/* Own my public list emails and replies */ didn't happen in 2018, expand next steps (need design of email posts, MVF new/reply emails, images, attachments), along with real world past actual email examples for each (from me to a public list)" (view diff)