#meta 2019-05-27

2019-05-27 UTC
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[frank] google << https://www.wired.com/story/google-tracks-you-privacy/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://www.wired.com/story/google-tracks-you-privacy/" to the "See Also" section of /Google https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=61699&oldid=57712
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[tantek] aaronpk, your photos on https://aaronparecki.com/speaker-bios-and-photos/ are not particularly conducive to "avatar" or "icon" like image usage that a lot of events seem to need (grid of speakers etc.)
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aaronpk wrong aspect ratio?
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[tantek] so I'm grabbing from your Twitter I think which is different from everything there!
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[tantek] and crop
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aaronpk oh yeah I haven't updated that page with my latest photo
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[tantek] as in, as an event organizer, don't make me do extra work for a common use-case (square head profile/icon)
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aaronpk seeing as I am literally in the middle of dealing with this stuff right now for an oauth project I will take this opportunity to update that page too :)
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aaronpk omg i'm looking thru all my emoji photos for my main profile photo and I forgot how hilarious they are
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[tantek] and it's completely unpredictable what things are deletable and what are not
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[tantek] please do not build a CMS UI like this
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aaronpk hahaha oh dear
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Loqi awesome
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[tantek] nevermind trying to resize things
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[tantek] seriously this is why I hate CMS UIs
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[tantek] CMSUI--
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Loqi CMSUI has -1 karma over the last year
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aaronpk yeah I much prefer the super constrained versions like calagator.org and upcoming.org
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[tantek] you know when you select text you think is editable and hit the delete key to delete and it's not editable so the browser goes "Back"?!? WTF whoever thought that was a good idea
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[tantek] oh yeah, and CMS UI which is absolutely horrible at maintaining any kind of sensible history
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[tantek] so when you go back, random edits appear to happen
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[tantek] how do people ship stuff this bad?
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aaronpk ohno
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aaronpk to be fair you don't have a backspace key on your mac keyboard, it's called "delete", so I guess you should expect that your content is deleted when you press it :P
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aaronpk ok my bio photos are replaced with square versions since nobody cares about rectangle photos anymore
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[tantek] Saving... - how is this not instant / a few seconds?
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[tantek] this is why I use a wiki
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[tantek] this event CMS UI stuff is utter crap
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aaronpk wikis are just crap in different (more predictable) ways
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[tantek] they are simple, and responsive
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[tantek] they do a good job at what they do
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[tantek] this thing does not
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[tantek] hey look at this https://events.mozilla.org/indiewebsummit2019
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aaronpk it worked!
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[tantek] sort of
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[tantek] plenty of odd bugs
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[tantek] so annoying
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aaronpk the rsvp link doesn't work
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[tantek] yeah that's one of the things that their stupid history/back lost
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[tantek] like either fully support the history API or don't allow it to make edits
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[tantek] it's not that hard
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aaronpk there's like a million JS errors in the console when you click rsvp
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[tantek] yeah because I deleted all the RSVP modal garbage
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aaronpk https://i.imgur.com/ZJbAVw0.gif
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aaronpk well the link needs to do *something*
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aaronpk preferably link people to 2019.indieweb.org/summit
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[tantek] obviously 😂
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[tantek] I had it doing that
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[tantek] but their stupid back button handling lost it
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aaronpk oops
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[tantek] reload?
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aaronpk oo
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aaronpk now it's just a link yay
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[tantek] right. I just created this for "distribution"
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aaronpk much better
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[tantek] I have no idea how to change the French at the bottom
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aaronpk hahaha what
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[tantek] this is what I'm saying
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aaronpk hey overall this is a pretty nice looking event page now
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aaronpk regardless of the terrible UI that made it 😂
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[tantek] just tried to add you as a collaborator
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[tantek] now I'm frustrated
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aaronparecki.com edited /2019 (+57) "/* RSVP */ add mozilla url" (view diff)
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[tantek] uh, but there's no RSVP there
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aaronpk oh hey I have an edit button
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[tantek] lol
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aaronpk oh I thought that was just the "other URLs" section
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aaronpk yeah "Additional listings:"
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[tantek] now you get to see how crappy the UI is
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aaronpk (calagator has no RSVP either)
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[tantek] good luck trying to figure out how to change the French contact link in the footer
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aaronpk I assumed itwas french because i'm in canada right now
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aaronpk the number of websites that localize the text based on my IP address location even when I am logged in to my account which has a clear language preference is astounding
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[tantek] it's pretty horrible
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aaronpk I still get emails from Lime Scooter in Czech just because I took one ride there
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[tantek] It's like they had to try to screw it up
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[tantek] Ok I'm done futzing with this. I need to walk away from this to regain some sanity 😞
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[tantek] We'll see if we get any more sign-ups through it
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[tantek] alright now to see how long it takes to show up in that Google Event search for "Mozilla"
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aaronpk oh yeah
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aaronpk or "indieweb"
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[tantek] https://www.google.com/search?q=mozilla&ibp=htl;events&htivrt=events
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2019-05-31 4:16pm PDT (#6562)
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aaronpk 4 days until do we show up in the google event search yet? https://www.google.com/search?q=mozilla&ibp=htl;events&htivrt=events
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[tantek] [aaronpk] summit-2019 or 2019-summit? (context: Twitter list of participants https://indieweb.org/2019#To-do )
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[tantek] (or don't care)
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aaronpk 2019-summit feels better to me for sorting reasons but i could be convinced either way
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aaronpk i think we use the "2019-summit" pattern elsewhere but i can't figure out where right now
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[tantek] we're such devs. I had the same instinct but realized it was a dev instinct 😂
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aaronpk the wiki i guess
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[tantek] yeah, noted that in the to-do
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[tantek] also 2019.indieweb.org/summit has the 2019-summit ordering
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aaronpk right
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[tantek] I guess if Twitter lists are sorted ...
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[tantek] ohhh the other place this will show up is in people's memberships
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[tantek] e.g. https://twitter.com/t/memberships shows all the lists that *other people* put me into
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aaronpk o.O
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aaronpk those appear to have a name other than the slug
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[tantek] or https://twitter.com/aaronpk/memberships
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[tantek] lol you're in "The Blockchain Movement"
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aaronpk smh