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Loqi Remind [tantek] to update https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/lists/indieweb-summit-2019/members with current registrants noted in https://2019.indieweb.org/summit and then repeated this reminder every 3 days or so
# Loqi 3 days until 3 days until 3 days until 3 days until 3 days until Remind [tantek] to update https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/lists/indieweb-summit-2019/members with ppl from https://2019.indieweb.org/summit
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[tantek] hey infominer, just noticing the new pages. appreciate the eagerness to contribute, however please take a look at https://indieweb.org/wikifying#Should_this_be_on_the_wiki
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infominer[m] Just adding relevant links to the topics existing, imo can't talk about indieweb without at least including links for information on web of trust related topics, but I'll stop if my changes get rolled back
# infominer[m] I'm here because I'm All in on decentralized web without the need for central authorities
# infominer[m] yes there is, actually
# infominer[m] on a post I just linked to has webmentions
# infominer[m] ok, sorry I didn't write too much was just organizing links.. but will prepare a sentence(s) explaining the relevance
# [tantek] great! if a post supports webmentions, the right place to put it is adding it to this list according to the person who's site it is: https://indieweb.org/Webmention#IndieWeb_Examples
# infominer[m] I linked to a pdf on web of trust authored by Phil Zimmerman, that was submitted to the RWoT workshop...
# infominer[m] js
# infominer[m] well, I don't want to contribute to wikipedia.. but I intend that once I've revised accordingly you will appreciate my contributions..
# infominer[m] but I am not likely do add more to the wiki just improve what I already started...
# infominer[m] indieauth literally is an example of self sovereign identity
# infominer[m] Indieweb supports Self Sovereign Identity
# infominer[m] so who's opinion that IndieAuth isn't related to Self Sovereign Identity
# [tantek] not really an opinion. it has nothing to do with the "SSI" movement/concept. the people that created IndieAuth, use it, and Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IndieAuth
# infominer[m] Im using it for my own self sovereign identity solution on the web for weeks now
# [tantek] e.g. "Self Sovereign Identity" is not notable enough to even bother with its own Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_Sovereign_Identity
# infominer[m] Well, im not in charge of the wiki, but i know what self sovereign identity is
# infominer[m] Thats all im saying
# infominer[m] Doesnt need to be included, i just contributed as i felt would best serve the community
# infominer[m] In my personal area of expertise
# infominer[m] I will do thr wikipedia article cause noone else will
# infominer[m] Anyway, i see indieweb in rwot workshops, and at iiw and among many of that community
# infominer[m] But i looked
# [tantek] here, there seems to already be documentation about it here: https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Self-Sovereign_Identity
# infominer[m] I will look into this stuff tmm its a wrap 4 me
# [tantek] we only document when there are IIW events with directly IndieWeb related sessions that community members participated in / led: https://indieweb.org/Internet_Identity_Workshop
# [tantek] It looks like your existing resource https://infominer.id/DIDecentralized/rebooting-web-of-trust/ describes the topic already, along with the sites http://www.weboftrust.info/ and GitHub repo https://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/ — that's a good "somewhere else" place to move the page you added https://indieweb.org/Rebooting_Web_of_Trust
# [tantek] Otherwise since it is a series of conferences on a related but not directly IndieWeb topic, I'd like to restructure https://indieweb.org/Rebooting_Web_of_Trust to be more like https://indieweb.org/Internet_Identity_Workshop
# [tantek] Rebooting_Web_of_Trust << TO DO: Move content somewhere more relevant for this topic, then restructure to a minimal structure like the [[Internet Identity Workshop]] page
# Loqi ok, I added "TO DO: Move content somewhere more relevant for this topic, then restructure to a minimal structure like the [[Internet Identity Workshop]] page" to the "See Also" section of /Rebooting_Web_of_Trust https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=62012&oldid=62010
# [tantek] infominer[m] I did find this on Wikipedia, perhaps you can expand that into its own page there and link to it with Wikipedia's
{{main}} template: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_identity#Self-sovereign_identity# infominer[m] Tbh ive been avoiding wikipedia for as long as possible. Im not a fan.
# infominer[m] But i will deal w the SSI/DID stuff over there
# infominer[m] Tho generally speaking, index needs to be indexed, and linked in as distributed a fashion as possible
# infominer[m] Instead of adding to the behemoth, with questionable politics/longevity
# infominer[m] Information needs to be indexed*
# [tantek] The point is IndieWeb is not trying to be wikipedia. That's also why I linked to the existing https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Self-Sovereign_Identity article as another already existing page for this stuff
# infominer[m] Understood, im also aiming for clarity.
# infominer[m] Thats really awesome! And makes me feel less overwhelmed, though im not concerned about getting in.
# infominer[m] ... ill holler in a month or two.... lotta prep/foundational ground to cover
# infominer[m] Ok, ill wrap those however needed tomm
# infominer[m] Nah, im just getting over to this side of the tracks... though in a lotta closely related spaces
# infominer[m] Before i write the wikipedia entry though, im gonna do a good article on indieweb history... in the next week or so
# infominer[m] So i can get my foundation over here
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tantek.com edited /Decentralized_Web_Summit (+1154) "make a separate page to cover general information the overall event, summarize indieweb sessions at each of the years" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /events/2016-06-08-decentralized-web-summit (-251) "move general dweb summit info to its own page" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /events/2018-08-01-decentralized-web-summit (-381) "move general dweb summit info to its own page, make dfn specific to this page" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /dweb (+169) "expand dfn to dweb summit, explicit relevance to indieweb, see also" (view diff)
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jeremycherfas Kudos for gardening /lurking to [chrisaldrich]++
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# tantek.com moved /Lurking to /lurking "lowercase, not a proper noun"
# jeremycherfas Thanks [tantek]++
# jeremycherfas I always forget how (case) sensitive Loqi can be. I guess that is why more experienced people often first ask What is
# tantek.com edited /soft_quit (+545) "brainstorming naming because no one who does it actually calls it "soft quit", thinking "... break" of some sort (e.g. silo break or social media break) would more accurately reflect use in the wild. cc: chrisaldrich" (view diff)
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# [kevinmarks786] Flounce?
# [kevinmarks786] What is flounce?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "flounce" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "flounce is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [kevinmarks786] Flouncing isn't really a silo quit though, more a social quit.
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petermolnar.net edited /Dat (+1185) "example of running a command line dat for sharing a static website" (view diff)
# Loqi ok, I added "https://medium.com/blue-link-labs/so-you-want-your-decentralized-browser-to-work-correctly-c06c4038ab12" to the "See Also" section of /Dat https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=62025&oldid=62024
# vanderven.se martijn edited /Dat (+106) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ + Kicks Condor. h/t
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jamietanna[m] Who is jamietanna
# Loqi Jamie Tanna is a Software Quality Engineer, serial blogger, and huge advocate of Free and Open Source Software, and digital rights, hence him joining in on the IndieWeb movement https://indieweb.org/User:Www.jvt.me
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# [tantek] <!channel> It's less than four weeks to IndieWeb Summit! Please register ASAP, I need to order food estimates this week! https://2019.indieweb.org/summit
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# [Sadik_Shahadu] Hi [tantek], my question is: when will scholarship applicants be contacted?
# [tantek] alright I've updated https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/lists/indieweb-summit-2019/members with the rest of the Twitter accounts I could find from registrants
# [Sadik_Shahadu] Ok great. Thanks!
# Loqi ok, I added "document how lightning talks work at IndieWebCamps, both intros at start, and demos session at the end" to the "See Also" section of /tinbox https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=62030&oldid=61578
# Loqi ok, I added "^^^ maybe not use the label "lightning" - might be more confusing than useful? -- sknebel" to the "See Also" section of /tinbox https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=62031&oldid=62030
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boffosocko.com edited /reply-context (+66) "[[context collapse]] reference in why and see also" (view diff)
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doubleloop.net edited /Tent.io (+581) "Add note on closure and change relevant parts of page to past tense" (view diff)
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doubleloop Coincidentally, the reason I came across Tent just now was while reading about Project Xanadu..
# doubleloop (Though I think Jeena mentioned it briefly in his podcast with Zegnat)
# doubleloop Oops - should be in ->chat
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gRegorLove__ +1 for /soft_quit being something like /social_media_break. I've used the latter term several times.
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gregorlove.com created /User:Abraham.uno (+1016) "migrate user page from /Abraham.uno" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com moved /sunlit to /Sunlit "proper noun"
# gRegorLove beat me to it, hehe
# gregorlove.com edited /events/2018 (+25253) "/* 2018 */ archive remaining months from /events" (view diff)
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# gregorlove.com edited /Events () "(-10077) /* 2019 */ january-march archived to /events/2019" (view diff)
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