#meta 2019-06-05

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Loqi 3 days until 3 days until 3 days until 3 days until Remind [tantek] to update https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/lists/indieweb-summit-2019/members with ppl from https://2019.indieweb.org/summit
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2019-06-07 5:36pm PDT (#6574)
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@morteza1978 Take Back Your Web: Tantek Çelik’s Call to Action to Join the Independent Web - https://morteza-heidarpour.com/take-back-your-web-tantek-celiks-call-to-action-to-join-the-independent-web/ - Tantek Çelik, Web Standards Lead at Mozilla and co-founder of IndieWebCamp, delivered an inspirational talk titled “Take Back Your Web” at the most recent beyond tellerran... (twitter.com/_/status/1136078030244368384)
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Zegnat Someone should run some sort of NLP on my IRC chat notes for a couple of IWCs, that'll give you an idea of some jargon :D
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Zegnat makes note to check the list later today
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@djdmsr Take Back Your Web: Tantek Çelik’s Call to Action to Join the Independent Web http://bit.ly/2wyFkWG Tantek Çelik, Web Standards Lead at Mozilla and co-founder of IndieWebCamp, delivered an inspirational talk titled “Take Back Your Web” at the most recent beyond tellerrand co… (twitter.com/_/status/1136144581383340032)
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@erasurecode "login to my tiny site to view your bid" But... That's all.. I would do on it.. Oauth gateways and indieweb.... Sooooooon (twitter.com/_/status/1136169982813802497)
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@nhoizey ↩️ I’m considering to PESOS[^1] some of my tweets to my own site, so writing them in Markdown makes sense. Is it annoying to read here on Twitter? [^1]: See @indiewebcamp’s definition of PESOS: https://indieweb.org/PESOS (twitter.com/_/status/1136204488547717120)
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@borisschapira ↩️ @nhoizey @indiewebcamp I think it's ok. (twitter.com/_/status/1136206323522199552)
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@screenshotmag Social media’s overwhelming effects on our minds, our relationships, and our senses have become increasingly obvious over the last few years. #IndieWeb #OnlineNetworking https://screenshot-magazine.com/visual-cultures/what-is-the-indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/1136211187635503104)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ @tripticonomicon wow this is awesome! Congrats. I hope you can make theb#IndieWeb Summit as a remote attendee. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1IqJhX) (twitter.com/_/status/1136232112212889600)
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GWG I'm trying to figure out what to do about IWC NYC
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Loqi GWG: [schmarty] left you a message 16 hours, 39 minutes ago: don't forget to add your date preferences for a fall IWC NYC at /Planning#NYC
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GWG I was originally asked to keep the summer free for business, but that looks like it might be pushed to the fall.
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GWG If it doesn't, any of those weekends are fine, so I don't know how I note no preference
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[jgmac1106] +1/-1 then. I checked the holiday calendar should be all set there
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[jgmac1106] [tmiller] make sure to indicate dates
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[jgmac1106] [dmitshur] @jmac please indicate your dates
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sknebel 3 hours until sknebel you need to edit hwcs!
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2019-06-05 6:00pm CEST (#6575)
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@anomalily I’ll be reading you the news this morning- including an interview with #indieweb organizers about taking back our data from FB - on @xrayfm from 7-9AM. Tune in from anywhere at http://xray.fm or at 91.1FM/107.1FM in pdx. (twitter.com/_/status/1136257399365414913)
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@Spellacy ↩️ #IndieWeb #FTW I like customizable sites, so Jekyll, hosted on GitHub was way to go for me. You can learn more about the IndieWeb at https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1136258045250613248)
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@jgmac1106 @BLACKSTEMUSA Hey any chance you can make it to the #IndieWeb summit Jun 29-20th? In person or remote. https://2019.indieweb.org/summit (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/NAlWj) (twitter.com/_/status/1136263443911254016)
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@jgmac1106 @arcticisleteach Been loving your blog as of late. Everyone should go on a Kindness Bender. You should join us for #IndieWeb Summit Jun 29-30th. If you can't make it in person we have awesome remote options. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/27Ippl) (twitter.com/_/status/1136268411137380353)
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@jgmac1106 @booktoss in all the years I have known you I am not sure I know were your home base is. Either way try to join us for the #IndieWeb summit Jun 29-30th. We have great remote options for this free conference. So glad to have #31DaysIBPOC, sadly my… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/06/05/booktoss-in-all-the-years-i-have (twitter.com/_/status/1136269238509932544)
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@jgmac1106 @chadceverett As such a prolific educational blogger you should join us for the #IndieWeb summit June 29-30th. Bit of a hike from Mississippi but we have wonderful remote options. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1hb07D) (twitter.com/_/status/1136269646502518784)
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[jgmac1106] sorry gonna be spamming channel with recruitment tweets
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@jgmac1106 Hey @vperezy been loving your posts about the intersection of tech, education, and diveristy. If you can join us for the #IndieWeb Summit June 19-20th https://2019.indieweb.org/summit Bit far from Oklahoma but we have awesome remote options. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/fsnmU) (twitter.com/_/status/1136270661150810114)
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[tantek] Spam away! [jgmac1106]++
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Loqi [jgmac1106] has 59 karma in this channel over the last year (123 in all channels)
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@jgmac1106 @anterobot hoping you are around for the #IndieWeb summit. Granted Stamford isn't next door to Portland, Oregon but we have great remote options: https://2019.indieweb.org/summit (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1EfSxJ) (twitter.com/_/status/1136275724346757120)
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@jgmac1106 @EngageReaders Hey even if you can't swing Portland, Oregon from Boston would love to have you at #IndieWeb Summit: https://2019.indieweb.org/summit (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/PFWd0) (twitter.com/_/status/1136276470421233664)
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@jgmac1106 @DingleTeach You have such a wonderful blog. I am hoping you can join us for #IndieWeb Summit June 29-30th: https://2019.indieweb.org/summit If you can't make it in person we have wonderful remote options. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/26pFWr) (twitter.com/_/status/1136277048933212162)
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@jgmac1106 @edifiedlistener I hope you can join us for #IndieWeb Summit: https://2019.indieweb.org/summit great remote options and someone is organizing a viewing party for EU folks. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/19pV0n) (twitter.com/_/status/1136277704532156416)
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@jgmac1106 @triciaebarvia I hope you can join us for the #IndieWeb Summit June 29-30th https://2019.indieweb.org/summit Our values align well with #TheEdCollab great remote options if you can't make it in person. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1Txv4g) (twitter.com/_/status/1136278143898181632)
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@jgmac1106 @ebonyteach....so great too see you back on your blog again!!! You should join us for #IndieWeb Summit June 29-30th: https://2019.indieweb.org/summit If you can't make it from illadelph we have awesome remote options. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/SJ379) (twitter.com/_/status/1136279650177552384)
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@jgmac1106 Hey @ClearTheAirEdu can you share the details about the #IndieWeb Summit within your circles and better yet make an appearacne (either f2f or remote) yourself https://2019.indieweb.org/summit (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/C7Siq) (twitter.com/_/status/1136282515310882816)
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@jgmac1106 @CrazyQuilts I hope you are around this summer and able to join us for the #IndieWeb summit, either in person or remotely: https://2019.indieweb.org/summit (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/F3xh9) (twitter.com/_/status/1136283886072320004)
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@jgmac1106 Thanks for the like @HeinemannPub!! Would be willing to sponsor this free conference? Entire goal is to ensure a better web for all children. You can sponsor #IndieWeb Summit at the $100, $200, or $300 level (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/2gSAy) (twitter.com/_/status/1136284378307420160)
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jgmac1106 another diversity statement example: http://offlinefirst.org/camp/faq.html#diversity
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@jgmac1106 Hey @OfflineCamp can you share details about #IndieWeb Summit with your circles. June 29-30th in #pdx, https://2019.indieweb.org/summit Many p working on service workers and web components for offline. @goifoudation for example trying to roll out #oer network in… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/06/05/hey-offlinecamp-can-you-share-details-about (twitter.com/_/status/1136285557838028800)
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@jgmac1106 @daniellecrobins Hey are you gonna be able to make it to the #IndieWeb Summit this year. Would love to talk #open Science and it is at the @mozilla #pdx office https://2019.indieweb.org/summit (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1DEDiC) (twitter.com/_/status/1136285900554625024)
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@jgmac1106 @juliaerin80 Hey are you around this summer for the #IndieWeb Summit, if you can't make it in person our remote options are great: https://2019.indieweb.org/summit (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/Zk62h) (twitter.com/_/status/1136286733618876416)
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@jgmac1106 Hey @biblio_phile I hope you can make it to the #IndieWeb Summit this year even if you can't get across the Pacific and have to attend remotely: https://2019.indieweb.org/summit (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/XEYTM) (twitter.com/_/status/1136287208028160000)
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@jgmac1106 @MisterMinor @mskass1 I hope you both consider joining us for #IndieWeb Summit in Portland, Oregon: https://2019.indieweb.org/summit We have great remote options if you can't escape the NYC Summer Heat (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/tuWLz) (twitter.com/_/status/1136287754902528000)
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jgmac1106 okay spamming done, invited about everyone I could think of
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[tantek] will be interesting to see the Offline Camp response, as it's run by the Protocol Labs folks, who are also running IPFS Camp in Spain on the exact same weekend as IndieWeb Summit
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[tantek] we had a good sustainability discussion in Berlin
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[tantek] and there's this too: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sustainability_Initiative
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[tantek] which we could use to model our efforts
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[tantek] Organizers << * {{t}}: discuss a [[sustainability]] policy like https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sustainability_Initiative
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Loqi ok, I added "* {{t}}: discuss a [[sustainability]] policy like https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sustainability_Initiative" to the "See Also" section of /Organizers https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=62135&oldid=61962
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Loqi sknebel you need to edit hwcs!
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Loqi Countdown set by sknebel on 2019-06-05 at 3:00pm CEST
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@ChrisAldrich Want to build your own website and own your own content? Maybe improve an existing website or domain? Join 30+ campers online for Domain Camp 2019. #DoOO #IndieWeb #PhDChat https://boffosocko.com/2019/06/05/getting-ready-for-domain-camp-domains-of-our-own/ (twitter.com/_/status/1136318040780550144)
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[frank] !mf2 https://www.kajrietberg.nl/posts/2019-05-15-beyond-tellerrand/
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Kaja_ https://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kajrietberg.nl%2Fposts%2F2019-05-15-beyond-tellerrand%2F
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[kevinmarks786] comments << https://xkcd.com/2159/
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@jgmac1106 @twitterdev My twitter application was suspended (probably because I was inviting women and people of color to #IndieWeb camp and harrassment filters kicked it). I can find no information on how I go and get my read/write access back. http://bit.ly/2ETNCgd (twitter.com/_/status/1136339651684421633)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ Bryan, if you're still in LA and have time, I'd love to sit down for coffee/drink and chat about #HAXTheWeb and #IndieWeb. https://boffosocko.com/2019/06/05/55753631/ (twitter.com/_/status/1136345543003713536)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ Sadly some family commitments will prevent Domains19, though I'd give my left arm to be there. Are you going to make the #IndieWeb Summit in Portland at the end of the month? https://boffosocko.com/2019/06/05/55753631/#comment-265233 (twitter.com/_/status/1136349724863131649)
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[tantek] very odd [jgmac1106] you didn't even make that many tweets
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[tantek] were you @-mentioning lots of people who don't follow you? because I'm pretty sure that's one of the lock triggers
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aaronpk yes, and without replying to their tweets even
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aaronpk whereas yesterday I tweeted a whole bunch of replies to people and didn't get locked out
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aaronpk (people who I am not following and who aren't following me)
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aaronpk i suspect context-less @-mentions is a lock trigger
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[tantek] yes aaronpk, I too have tweeted (POSSEd) a whole bunch of replies to people and not get locked
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[tantek] context-less @-mentions of people you don't follow and don't follow you definitely looks sketchier
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aaronpk also IMO is actually spammy regardless of the motivation
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[tantek] aaronpk, that's the better question, the social one
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[tantek] "context-less @-mentions of people you don't follow and don't follow" ... "is actually spammy regardless of the motivation" is exactly why it's better to use /Vouch than Webmentions to people you don't follow and don't follow you
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[tantek] I also wonder if there are cultural / personality divides here, e.g. marketing vs engineering, extroverts vs introverts
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[tantek] in terms of what is considered "spammy" and what is considered "friendly outreach"
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aaronpk could very well be
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aaronpk looking thru those tweets, the people he mentioned mostly either favorited the tweet or actually replied to it
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[tantek] which means it's unlikely they "reported" the tweet
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aaronpk ok i think it might be more like 50/50 than "most"
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aaronpk but still that's pretty good
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[tantek] indeed!
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[tantek] if/when I improve my posting UI so I feel compelled to post notes/replies more frequently than once a minute, I'll likely self-throttle on my side to POSSE tweet no more frequently than once a minute
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@holden ↩️ Also shorter answer -- what I like about co-ops is the potential to get a better mix at the table. I think that's also the risk of co-ops -- I love indieweb stuff for example but I'm not sure I've ever seen an expert in legal compliance at a hackathon (twitter.com/_/status/1136356686254551041)
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@xolotl ↩️ Lawyer at @indiewebcamp: "Why isn't anyone at my GDPR unconference session?" (twitter.com/_/status/1136357136890392576)
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sknebel lol
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[tantek] sknebel 😭
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@aaronpk ↩️ @xolotl @holden @tanbob @BenjaminBHerold @hypothes_is @WordPress @Pinboard @indiewebcamp you joke, but: https://indieweb.org/2018/D%C3%BCsseldorf/gdpr (twitter.com/_/status/1136357491057369088)
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@holden ↩️ @xolotl @tanbob @BenjaminBHerold @hypothes_is @WordPress @Pinboard @indiewebcamp This was the first Actual LOL of the day (twitter.com/_/status/1136357591427276800)
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@HeNeArXn ↩️ You'd be surprised. Multiple IWCs had sessions about such topics, and I doubt people would have been unhappy to have an actual lawyer participating (twitter.com/_/status/1136357761627885572)
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@xolotl ↩️ @holden @tanbob @BenjaminBHerold @hypothes_is @WordPress @Pinboard @indiewebcamp I'm here to serve. (twitter.com/_/status/1136357833870520320)
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[tantek] sknebel citing session notes links would help make your case, so to speak 🙂
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[tantek] also wow top of that thread
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@xolotl ↩️ @aaronpk @holden @tanbob @BenjaminBHerold @hypothes_is @WordPress @Pinboard @indiewebcamp I know...a cheap shot. Sorry indie peoples! (twitter.com/_/status/1136358208807755776)
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@xolotl ↩️ Sorry, it was a cheap shot! Tho: Lawyer @indiewebcamp: Before we start discussion, would you all mind signing this waiver? (twitter.com/_/status/1136358535611133953)
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[tantek] If you're going to strawman a lawyer, at least cite evidence to make your case 😂
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@holden ↩️ I don't doubt it! As a parallel I've run edcamp sessions on FERPA. But getting people into the community with that expertise is hard. Big difference between my session on FERPA and an expert -- I'm talking FERPA -- but still through *my* perspective and goals. (twitter.com/_/status/1136358971550457856)
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@holden ↩️ That's very different than a person whose daily job involves FERPA issues sitting in and saying this is the way this approach would be a disaster for my work. (twitter.com/_/status/1136359541594099712)
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aaronpk i now regret entering this discussion
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[jgmac1106] The first 30 people were pretty much bidirectional they were from the 31daysibpoc blogging challenge
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[jgmac1106] And anyone from PDX I did not know was from a hashtag used by a group where I was previously invited to Slack channel
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[jgmac1106] I had let them know I would send invites on Twitter.. Of course Twitter didn't know that
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Been talking to you folks all day but Twitter suspended my POSSE app... Been shouting into wind... But some folks have thought long and hard about webmentions and GDPR. Some go farther. (twitter.com/_/status/1136362300770795520)
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@apurv_mishra99 Here’s my first note! I want to try this as a way of posting small, random chunks of content. Hope to start posting some interesting tidbits. #indieweb https://apurvmishra.xyz/notes/2019-04-11/ (twitter.com/_/status/1136362321016709120)
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@xolotl ↩️ Sorry. I was just joking around. Sending my request to Twitter now to fully delete my misguided attempt at humor in compliance with their good data ownership and privacy practices. (twitter.com/_/status/1136362870617153536)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Or @holden help us bring @edcamp and @IndieWebCamp together and let's highlight how data empowerment leads to better privacy. Actually can you make the Summit this year? (twitter.com/_/status/1136363991595438081)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ No, you aren't wrong @IndieWebCamp trends more technical than @edcamp. Maybe not call session FERPA but something about Student Rights and Privacy. I had to trick @ncte people to come to my tech sessions by calling them poetry. (twitter.com/_/status/1136364531821797377)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ My apologies. I was responding to both of you but the app that sends tweets from my blog was suspended for harassment. Tweeted too many times inviting folks to #IndieWeb Summit (twitter.com/_/status/1136364880347488256)
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[jgmac1106] This is my offending post... https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/06/05/hey-annaoz249-i-hope-you-would-consider
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Loqi [Greg McVerry] Hey @annaoz249 I hope you would consider joining us for the #IndieWeb Summit https://2019.indieweb.org/summit funny story @Edcamp was founded when teachers walked into a BarCamp Both BarCamp and IndieWebCamp cofounded by same person. We are all cousi...
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[jgmac1106] It was the first blocked
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[jgmac1106] This was the last one sent https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/06/05/misterminor-mskass1-i-hope-you-both-consider
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Loqi [Greg McVerry] @MisterMinor @mskass1 I hope you both consider joining us for #IndieWeb Summit in Portland, Oregon: https://2019.indieweb.org/summit We have great remote options if you can't escape the NYC Summer Heat
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@cafenun Der Juni wird super dufte! - Gisbert zu Knyphausen, Bergen, Zacharias Heck, Weinerei, Literaturabend, Homebrew Website Club, Klangwerk und die Philosophische Ambulanz warten auf euch! https://mailchi.mp/47d2ba2f3421/der-juni-wird-super-dufte (twitter.com/_/status/1136377448768180224)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ You also said an #IndieWeb trigger word so the bot posted your tweet to IRC which then brought a "few" responses unaware of main thesis (twitter.com/_/status/1136386319058460673)
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