#meta 2019-06-07

2019-06-07 UTC
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ We also can't simply complain about social media. Need a better path forward. For me I am drawn to movements like #DoOO and #IndieWeb. Only way to fight the outrage machine is to be the better web. Encourage folks to own their domain. Be their own… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/06/07/we-also-cant-simply-complain-about-social (twitter.com/_/status/1136813785489072129)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Finish the sentence, "My url is" #Domains19 #DoOO #IndieWeb Get a website. Have fun. Make friends. Reflect on passion. Learn something. Be a part of a better future. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/wDZBG) (twitter.com/_/status/1136816381020819457)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ If you want folks to peek under the hood and help you kick the tires check out #DoOO and #IndieWeb. Always helpful folks around that love hanging about talking websites and fun webby stuff (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/12WwWR) (twitter.com/_/status/1136830271750168576)
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-06-07.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-05-13-beyond-tellerand (+362) "+ photo from the start, improve alt text" (view diff)
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@Iggy POSSE is an abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere, a content publishing model that starts with posting content on your own domain first, then syndicating out copies to 3rd party services https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/1136895996322091009)
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@depone Der nächste Homebrew Website Club in Karlsruhe findet am 26.06. statt. Wir haben ihn wegen Urlaub und WordCamp verschoben. Details hier: https://indieweb.org/events/2019-06-26-homebrew-website-club#Karlsruhe Kommt vorbei uns baut mit uns an Euren Webseiten. #HWC #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1136945111856766976)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+52) "update from /Events" (view diff)
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wiegand.io edited /events/2019-06-26-homebrew-website-club (+17) "/* Karlsruhe */" (view diff)
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seblog.nl moved /rust to /Rust "proper noun: capitalize"
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@lumos_aguamenti Indieweb starter how-abouts: https://ownyourcontent.wordpress.com/2019/05/07/toolkit-how-to-write-your-about-page/ (twitter.com/_/status/1136993051694362624)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-06-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-06-07.html
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@jackyalcine The IndieWeb Summit is happening at Mozilla PDX in a few weeks (June 29-30, 2019)! If you’re interested in building a Web for people, by people; this is the place to be! Will I see you there? https://2019.indieweb.org/summit (https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/419fe2ba-52a9-4251-b199-792282e77dde) (twitter.com/_/status/1137020573823971329)
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aaronpk !rt https://twitter.com/_/status/1137020573823971329
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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jacky is tempted to !rt his own tweet 😇
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jacky !rt https://twitter.com/_/status/1137020573823971329
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Loqi Thanks jacky and aaronpk! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1137023248078475265
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jacky :D
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jacky lol
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-06-07.html
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aaronpk haha
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-06-07.html
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@mehuman ↩️ @alicegoldfuss I don't know of a compiled list but @indiewebcamp is awesome and all about personal projects (twitter.com/_/status/1137039163704791041)
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[jgmac1106] If you are interested in NYC this year please mark your preferred choice. Sending top choices to Venue End of Day EDT
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@jackyalcine ↩️ I think https://indieweb.org falls under this category! It’s all about crafting and honing your identity on the Web. https://2019.indieweb.org/summit (https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/49230759-d6cd-41b8-82bd-d78acee8acc6) (twitter.com/_/status/1137041099082612737)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-06-07.html
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[jgmac1106] Jacky make sure to add yourself to the volunteer list. Thx for recruiting
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-06-07.html
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[tantek] wait no photos this week?
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[tantek] I know I saw [dougbeal] post some photos somewhere from WWDC indieweb/micro.blog meetups!
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[dougbeal] I did. We got a group photo : here.is [manton] 's post https://www.manton.org/2019/06/06/microblog-at-wwdc.html
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aaronpk wow big meetup!
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[tantek] do you need help creating a page for it?
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gRegorLove That's like a whole IWC
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@frankmeeuwsen ↩️ @alicegoldfuss Check out the Indieweb Summit later this month in Portland. https://2019.indieweb.org/summit (twitter.com/_/status/1137054661771485184)
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[tantek] I'm in a W3C meeting then off to airport then flying — would love it if someone else could help with 1) creating a wiki event page for https://www.manton.org/2019/06/06/microblog-at-wwdc.html including the photo with photosrcalt template (clone from a recent similar meetup), 2) creating an entry on /events for that wiki event page
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aaronparecki.com edited /Events (+446) "/* June */ add micro.blog meetup" (view diff)
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aaronpk it's been so long since i've touched wiki events but omg this is such an awful experience
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-06-07.html
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[tantek] I figured gRegorLove was going to bite but ok
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gRegorLove Sometimes it pays to wait a bit ;)
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aaronpk this is a good reminder for me
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[tantek] lol gRegorLove not sure if waiting that causes aaronpk to step in is worth it
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[tantek] or anyone that has SPOFs in the community 🙂
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aaronpk there is *no way* i am comfortable recommending this workflow to anyone lol
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gRegorLove Hehe. It is a pain. I can help if necessary.
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aaronparecki.com created /events/2019-06-04-micro-blog-wwdc (+764) "add event info" (view diff)
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[tantek] and here I thought copy/paste/edit workflow was reasonable for all devs 😉
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aaronpk just missed the newsletter regen oh well
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aaronpk i did copy paste, but it took a while to figure out what to copy from
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gRegorLove I haven't kept up, what's the latest on the stuff [schmary] and I think sknebel were working on for wiki events?
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gRegorLove [schmarty]
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[tantek] nothing on the pages themselves AFAIK
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aaronpk yeah that was more about fixing the rollup/aggregation part
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[tantek] sknebel keeps improving the automation that creates the upcoming HWCs / IWCs on the home page
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aaronpk that home page automation is excellent
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gRegorLove Yeah! I thought there was brainstorming about something that would aggregate individual city event pages
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aaronpk yeah still requires making individual event pages tho
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gRegorLove There's a wiki page but I can't find it
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aaronpk (which was the main thing i was complaining about just now)
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[tantek] aaronpk good point and on it
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[schmarty] ha, small world. the @mehuman tweet that loqi picked up is somebody i know from time together at the Baltimore Node makerspace.
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gRegorLove Found it: https://indieweb.org/Organizers/event_pages
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[schmarty] re: event rollup stuff, i have been working to make HWC NYC city event pages easy to copypaste, removing duplication. i *ALMOST* got it to a point where it pulls the event date from the URL, but got stuck b/c our mediawiki was too old?
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[schmarty] or maybe i did get that working but was worried about fragility.
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tantek.com edited /Events (+676) "link How to add event for better discovery, add short instructions for a non-HWC event like a meetup, including links to events to copy from" (view diff)
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gRegorLove It's a small thing, but I think I'll set up the p-location h-card template I prototyped: https://indieweb.org/User:Gregorlove.com/sandbox#location_template
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[tantek] aaronpk, take a look, is this more discoverable? https://indieweb.org/Events#Upcoming
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[schmarty] gregorlove++ i like it!
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gRegorLove [schmarty], I think "Transclusion testing" on my sandbox is related to what you're talking about, though that was something you were trying to do in the sidebar I think
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[tantek] also edited, could use review by someone who doesn't often create events on the wiki: https://indieweb.org/Events#How_To_Add_An_Event
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[schmarty] gRegorLove: the sidebar attempt was a failure, to be sure. i was trying to reduce by one the number of places that the next HWC needs to be edited. my hope was to make {{next-hwc}} transcludable.
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[schmarty] but my mediawiki chops are quite dull.
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gregorlove.com created /Template:event-location (+666) "p-location h-card template" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-06-07.html
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[tantek] \o/
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[tantek] aaronp++
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[tantek] aaronpk++
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aaronpk woo
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[dougbeal] \o|
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gregorlove.com created /Template:event-location/doc (+1491) "doc" (view diff)
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[tantek] [schmarty] while you're here, is 10/5-6 looking likely for IWC NYC? https://indieweb.org/Planning#NYC
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[schmarty] i would like a few more people to express their date prefs but so far i'd agree that's the most agreeable date.
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[tantek] and/or if others have prefs about that date vs other dates, please add them!
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[tantek] right
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[tantek] putting a soft "likely" in my calendar 🙂
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[schmarty] 1+1+0+0 isn't exactly a mandate 😄
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[schmarty] (and technically it's tied w/ 9/14-15 lol)
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[tantek] +2 with 0 -1s does beat it
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[tantek] (fewer -1s being a way to tie-break a total)
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[schmarty] haha, i follow that same tie-breaking strategy for sure.
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2019-06-12-homebrew-website-club (-103) "/* San Francisco */ trying out event-location template" (view diff)
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[tantek] I feel https://indieweb.org/Rebooting_Web_of_Trust could use some more edits, in particular the dfn should be more transparent about the (so far) lack of indieweb involvement/presence with perhaps an optimistic view of potential for the future
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[tantek] is looking at this week's new pages
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[schmarty] !tell dmitshur,tmiller,rose please indicate your prefs for a fall 2019 IndieWebCamp NYC! /Planning#NYC
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] what is 2019/events
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "2019/events" yet. Would you like to create it?_ (Or just say "2019/events is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] what is events/2019
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/events/2019
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[tantek] hmm
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gRegorLove h-events prevent the automatic h-entry on that page
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[tantek] ok that is weird
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[tantek] Loqi what is gives nothing
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gRegorLove I guess i could put an explicit h-entry around the opening paragraph?
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[tantek] but Loqi newsletter page summary gives last p-name on the page
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[tantek] WTF
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gRegorLove Newsletter parses h-event names I think
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tantek.com edited /Rebooting_Web_of_Trust (-5) "note lack of indieweb sessions, but opportunity for future. drop SSI refs - no Indieweb applicability yet, jargon" (view diff)
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[tantek] newsletter is looking good
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gRegorLove what is events/2019
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Loqi IndieWeb related events (including events which have sessions on the indieweb) in 2019 https://indieweb.org/events/2019
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gRegorLove Did the explicit h-entry hack, at least for today's newsletter
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[tantek] fascinating. let's see if it works in the regen
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[schmarty] please excuse if i am repeating something from the scrollback, but could the newsletter read h-feed p-name if those events were wrapped in an h-feed?
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aaronpk i think it would already do that? can't remember the code rn
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tantek.com edited /2019/Planning (+215) "/* To-do */ travel emails, Figure out necessary RSVP fixes" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-06-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-06-07.html
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[tantek] Ooh this looks like a good tweet to be politely thankful and /welcoming toward going to / participating in IndieWeb Summit! https://twitter.com/mehuman/status/1137039163704791041 cc: [jgmac1106]
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@mehuman @alicegoldfuss I don't know of a compiled list but @indiewebcamp is awesome and all about personal projects (twitter.com/_/status/1137039163704791041)
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[tantek] see original post it's in reply to
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[tantek] https://twitter.com/alicegoldfuss/status/1137035377829699585
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@alicegoldfuss Is there a list of conferences that focus more on cool personal tech projects vs vendor extravaganzas? I hadn’t heard of eyeo or refactr before this year and they look fun. (twitter.com/_/status/1137035377829699585)
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aaronpk there's a few invitations to summit in the thread alreayd :)
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[tantek] ahhh
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[tantek] jacky++
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[tantek] [frank]++
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gRegorLove event-location template appears to work well with the newsletter on that one SF HWC
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2019 (+13) "try h-feed + p-name" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Looks like /events/2019 gets an automatic h-entry if there's an h-feed.
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gRegorLove I think only h-event in the content stops that?
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gRegorLove Ran into that with recent tests adding h-adr
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aaronpk ah i can add h-feed to the list
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aaronpk done
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gRegorLove Parse result looks good!
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-06-07.html
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-06-07.html
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@glueckpress Aaaaand again. This is BAU in African countries, and increasingly around the world. Protest -- shutdown. Now, imagine a social web where they can't do that. It exists. It's free (as in speech, not beer). It's standardised. It's semantic. It's accessible. It's yours. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1137102573364809729)
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@tbc0 @manton2 @aaronpk ICYMI Declaration of Digital Independence by @lsanger #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1137108025133551616)
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[jgmac1106] [aaronpk] if you aren't in four other countries at the time and want to talk Summit https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tenpdx-the-engineering-network-june-happy-hour-tickets-59080448211?aff=PDXWIT
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aaronpk heh i'll be on a plane back from london at that time
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aaronpk which is pretty much the closest to being in four countries at the same time as you can get
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[jgmac1106] Ha
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-06-07.html
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-06-07.html
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-06-07.html https://t.co/WBOD08EMoS (twitter.com/_/status/1137120814652940288)
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[tantek] \o/ that looks like a great time [manton]!
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