#meta 2019-07-10

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loqi.me created /CSS-Tricks (+217) "prompted by [tantek] and dfn added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /CSS-Tricks (+106) "[tantek] added "Has published articles about the IndieWeb and IndieWeb building blocks like Webmention" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /CSS-Tricks (+39) "incorporate indieweb relevance into dfn, Articles section" (view diff)
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jacky.wtf edited /CSS-Tricks (+113) "add some canonical links and point to authors of css-tricks" (view diff)
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@RSSFeedsCloud IndieWeb and Webmentions https://rssfeeds.cloudsite.builders/2019/07/09/indieweb-and-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/1148750466857230336)
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tantek.com edited /CSS-Tricks (+163) "finish quote, add to articles" (view diff)
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@ajay_namitha IndieWeb and Webmentions http://dlvr.it/R86bZB https://t.co/c8bnarU4hg (twitter.com/_/status/1148751338718806016)
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@markdavoli CSS Tricks - IndieWeb and Webmentions http://dlvr.it/R86bZR https://t.co/18AusEF0S4 (twitter.com/_/status/1148751339704340480)
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@AstanMedia IndieWeb and Webmentions http://dlvr.it/R86bc0 https://t.co/1lsWQtCMb2 (twitter.com/_/status/1148751343055589376)
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@redrocketwd IndieWeb and Webmentions http://qoo.ly/yg7kj (twitter.com/_/status/1148754210235854854)
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tantek.com edited /2019/expenses (+660) "summary, sponsored expenses" (view diff)
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[tantek] Goodness sakes that's a lot of tweets
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jacky right
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@NebulArt IndieWeb and Webmentions http://dlvr.it/R86ghg https://t.co/mjD2sRKCRJ (twitter.com/_/status/1148763037895020545)
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@chriswagoner IndieWeb and Webmentions https://buff.ly/2S7yAZz by Chris Coyier (twitter.com/_/status/1148764275093233667)
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[tantek] well so much for Twitter search archiving all the Summit tweets with this new flood
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loqi.me created /color_scheme (+26) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /color_palette (+120) "archive link for ColorsEffect" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /color_palette (+393) "IndieWeb Examples, me, archived colorseffect tweet as inspiration," (view diff)
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@ThemeSpectrum IndieWeb and Webmentions https://ift.tt/2xFXWoi - real_css_tricks (twitter.com/_/status/1148774270518140928)
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[tantek] what is notification clustering?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "notification clustering" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "notification clustering is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] clearly
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jacky lol
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aaronpk what are notifications
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Loqi notifications in the context of the IndieWeb refer to all forms and ways that an independent web site can receive a message indicating something of interest (server notifications), and potentially relay that information (preferably in realtime) to one or more devices used by the owner of that site (client notifications) https://indieweb.org/notifications
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[tantek] !rt https://twitter.com/withknown/status/1148701594424229889
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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jacky !rt https://twitter.com/withknown/status/1148701594424229889
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Loqi Thanks jacky and [tantek]! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1148789313154379776
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@it_malibu IndieWeb and Webmentions: The IndieWeb is a thing! They've got a conference coming up and everything. The New Yorker is even writing about it: Proponents of the IndieWeb offer a fairly straightforward analysis of our current social-media crisis. They… https://css-tricks.com/indieweb-and-webmentions/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (twitter.com/_/status/1148811104908218368)
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@JamieTanna ↩️ We really are! Movements like #IndieWeb and the #HomebrewWebsiteClub https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club are helping with the resurgence, especially as big platforms are showing that content isn't safe with them (twitter.com/_/status/1148846633335033856)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ That’s if you choose to host it with those providers. And owing the means of producing your site (like the data needed to rebuild it) is way more useful than what most hosted solutions provide. There’s some bits on the IndieWeb wiki about this (https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/85ade5f8-59cf-4e3c-9c18-a2aad87d7a88) (twitter.com/_/status/1148846877980471296)
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@JamieTanna Looking forward to seeing you at tonight's #HomebrewWebsiteClub Nottingham - the usual 1730 start at Ludorati cafe, more details at https://www.jvt.me/events/homebrew-website-club-nottingham/2019/07/10/?utm_medium=twitter (twitter.com/_/status/1148848590913187840)
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@DatTechDaddy IndieWeb and Webmentions - https://techdaddyblog.com/indieweb-and-webmentions/ #TechnologyNews https://t.co/imnjE1Kb1H (twitter.com/_/status/1148849687417499648)
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@Un1v3rs0Z3r0 IndieWeb and Webmentions https://ift.tt/2xFXWoi (twitter.com/_/status/1148850042171797504)
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@marcplouis IndieWeb and Webmentions http://dlvr.it/R87M4w https://t.co/bFgnPU84Kg (twitter.com/_/status/1148857544774864896)
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@JansherRahman IndieWeb and Webmentions https://feedly.com/i/entry/WQQhVwYTr9O+Jze/QvxE21WabSSL7Bzw8sdo6RLFpRQ=_16bd8b864cd:65c256:d044c787 #webdesign #website #design #graphicdesign #webdevelopment #webdesigner #marketing #web #socialmediamarketing #wordpress #uxdesign #business #logo #socialmedia #ecommerce #programming #JansherRahman (twitter.com/_/status/1148874865618968576)
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@CMSstash IndieWeb und Webmentions auf CSS-TRICKS: Die eigene Webseite als Antwort auf die Social Media Krise und Webmentions als Wiedergeburt des Trackbacks. Mal sehen: https://css-tricks.com/indieweb-and-webmentions/ #webmentions #indieweb #socialmedia #website #dataprivacy (twitter.com/_/status/1148880541372035072)
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@jackmottram http://Indieweb.xyz http://mottr.am/2019/07/09/indieweb-xyz/ (twitter.com/_/status/1148884698153791490)
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@IndieWebLife Marking up Drupal's Blog Posts for the IndieWeb | Agaric #indieweb https://agaric.coop/blog/marking-drupals-blog-posts-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1148895434762530818)
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@sl007 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1148900340030480384)
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@DesignHeaps IndieWeb and Webmentions https://buff.ly/2S7yAZz #CSS (twitter.com/_/status/1148902259167825927)
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@SkweezeDesign CSS Tricks of the trade: IndieWeb and Webmentions https://buff.ly/2S7yAZz (twitter.com/_/status/1148909864674091008)
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cowglow.com edited /User:Cowglow.com (-85) (view diff)
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cowglow.com edited /User:Cowglow.com (-33) "/* Philip Saa */" (view diff)
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@redcrew IndieWeb and Webmentions https://css-tricks.com/indieweb-and-webmentions/ via @css (twitter.com/_/status/1148929882489053190)
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@MaxFoundry IndieWeb and Webmentions by @Real_CSS_Tricks http://maxfoundry.com/r/688306?url=https://css-tricks.com/indieweb-and-webmentions/ #WordPress via @maxfoundry (twitter.com/_/status/1148932396017958912)
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[KevinMarks] Its very meta that we're flooded with mentions about webmentions and posts about mention clutter
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eddiehinkle.com edited /Category:jargon (+17) "/* Keywords */ Add blockchain to jargon" (view diff)
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[eddie] !tell gRegorLove Turns out, Loqi didn't think blockchain was jargon 🙂
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@bitcatcha IndieWeb and Webmentions https://buff.ly/2S7yAZz via @Real_CSS_Tricks #css #webdev (twitter.com/_/status/1148964595408822274)
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@jgmac1106 Hey @AkyRhO nice seeing you get a post up and seeing you play. Come stop by #knownchat on freenode if you have any questions. The @withknown Open Collective grows every day as people look for the #Indieweb building blocks of the modern social web (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/17Hxeg) (twitter.com/_/status/1148971110144364544)
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@depone Auf dem Weg zum Homebrew Website Club nach Karlsruhe. #HWC #IndieWeb https://danielehniss.de/2019/07/10/5089/ https://t.co/B3HugGQQKZ (twitter.com/_/status/1148979592826408963)
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jgmac1106 !tell tantek, aaronpk archive.org has a collection feature we could use to group videos: https://archive.org/details/@jgmac1106?tab=collections
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk I couldn't find how to do that
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Loqi aaronpk: jgmac1106 left you a message 1 minute ago: archive.org has a collection feature we could use to group videos: https://archive.org/details/@jgmac1106?tab=collections
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jgmac1106 ha ha either can I was just about to be my next message
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aaronpk It looked like collections were their top-level organization
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aaronpk I posted all these to the "videos" collection or something
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jgmac1106 seems they are dropping a bunch of social features that are still a bit half baked but point to an itneresting future
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jgmac1106 okay i have to fav a video and then it shows up in my collection called favorites
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jgmac1106 can’t find anyway to make a collection beyone just favs though
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@ROXCODEOFFICIAL IndieWeb and Webmentions https://ift.tt/2xIk2Gw #webdevelopers https://t.co/WwId70TnRo (twitter.com/_/status/1148985881769984002)
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@tchambers Continue to think that efforts at Humane design, and #indieweb and @microdotblog efforts are natural allies: https://medium.com/thrive-global/how-technology-hijacks-peoples-minds-from-a-magician-and-google-s-design-ethicist-56d62ef5edf3 (twitter.com/_/status/1148986608215101441)
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@bashooka IndieWeb and Webmentions: https://ift.tt/2xFXWoi (twitter.com/_/status/1148987093886144517)
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@Aniuchaaja IndieWeb and Webmentions https://css-tricks.com/indieweb-and-webmentions/ via @css (twitter.com/_/status/1148990994634956804)
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@wordcamprocny WordPress and the IndieWeb: Why You Should Own Your Voice - Join @DavidWolfpaw at #WCROC - we can't wait for his talk! https://2019.rochester.wordcamp.org/session/wordpress-and-the-indieweb-why-you-should-own-your-voice/ (twitter.com/_/status/1148998913980063744)
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Loqi [tantek]: jgmac1106 left you a message 1 hour, 12 minutes ago: archive.org has a collection feature we could use to group videos: https://archive.org/details/@jgmac1106?tab=collections
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[tantek] Kevinmarks, yes, quite meta
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[tantek] gRegorlove, [eddie] do we need a Category:buzzword for blockchain and similar things that are hyped in the press far more than they are actually useful?
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[tantek] wondering if that could similarly be used to trigger Loqi in various channels to ask people to focus on practical things, and perhaps take chat about buzzwords to the informal chat channel
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gRegorLove Eh, not sure
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Loqi gRegorLove: [eddie] left you a message 3 hours, 21 minutes ago: Turns out, Loqi didn't think blockchain was jargon 🙂
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gRegorLove I'd be find with categorizing it as jargon and prompting for dev. I don't think there's been a problem of dev being overrun with buzzword conversations
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gRegorLove *fine
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[eddie] Yeah, I think for now just having it as jargon is good. (Which I already did)
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[eddie] If we find an influx of a large number of buzzword type things interfering with conversations then that could be reconsidered
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[eddie] But it doesn’t seem like an active problem currently
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[tantek] ok will start collecting buzzwords for now
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notiz.blog edited /events/2019-07-10-homebrew-website-club (+16) "/* Karlsruhe */" (view diff)
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[tantek] per Kevinmarks's point about being overrun here in meta with mentions, I wonder if that's a sign we need to pick a threshold at which to consider creating a new channel for "search mentions" from Twitter, or WebSub etc.
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[tantek] as IndieWeb development continues to grow in popularity, it's inevitable that more and more developers will talk about all the building blocks and such
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[tantek] (we previously considered and rejected a separate channel for Twitter mentions because there weren't enough to be annoying)
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[jgmac1106] Could a limit be set somehow in Loqi? Like if it contains the same permalink more than x times....but I also like idea of a single stream channel
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loqi.me created /WAN (+248) "prompted by [tantek] and dfn added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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[tantek] petermolnar if something comes up in indieweb chat as an answer to something indieweb related (as opposed to a random chat that should go in informal chat instead), that's a clue that it may merit a page that defines how it relates to the indieweb
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petermolnar but... WAN is - or supposed to be - a _really_ well known abbreviation, any search on it will bring you the correct definition
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petermolnar it's even present on home routers
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petermolnar and in home router manuals
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petermolnar so why add it to the wiki?
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petermolnar jargon or not, there are technical terms that should be fine to use
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petermolnar we're not in the living in the world of the thing explainer
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petermolnar ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thing_Explainer )
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loqi.me created /LAN (+338) "prompted by [tantek] and dfn added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /WAN (+39) "[tantek] added "[[Category:jargon]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /LAN (+39) "[tantek] added "[[Category:jargon]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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[tantek] I have that book!
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snarfed.org edited /unlisted (+940) "similarity to private posts" (view diff)
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eddiehinkle.com edited /unlisted (+268) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ +me" (view diff)
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eddiehinkle.com edited /unlisted (+128) "/* IndieWeb Examples */" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /unlisted (+678) "typically excluded from search, simpleR, easiER, add my old blog as an example" (view diff)
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@depone Homebrew Website Club in Karlsruhe am 10.07.2019 https://danielehniss.de/2019/07/10/homebrew-website-club-in-karlsruhe-am-10-07-2019/ (twitter.com/_/status/1149027504096722945)
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@jkphl Homebrew Website Clubbing w/ @alexcio_ @sfeldeu @einmenschnamens #indieweb https://t.co/HUPMx2fs6Y (twitter.com/_/status/1149027971707154432)
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tantek.com edited /unlisted (+856) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ personal unlisted history (re: home page / feeds) over the years (thanks to Internet Archive for capturing)" (view diff)
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aaronpk I think we talked about some sort of fuzzy matching for twitter search before making a new channel
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aaronpk a lot of these are straight up duplicate tweets from al the bots so that's easy to reject
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@depone .@mademyday, one of my homies at the Homebrew Website Club in Karlsruhe, revived his blog. Me Likey: https://mademyday.de/hello-anybody-out-there/ #IndieWeb #HWC (twitter.com/_/status/1149031784019038209)
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tantek.com edited /unlisted (+92) "move see also to a new Brainstorming subsection" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /unlisted (+96) "/* public homepage and unlisted blog */ can still participate with webmention" (view diff)
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@frankmeeuwsen Je kunt je nú nog inschrijven voor mijn nieuwsbrief OPEN over het decentrale en indieweb. Dan krijg je elke donderdagochtend bij je bakkie koffie/thee/whatevs een kakelverse editie! Leuk! Doen! http://nieuws.diggingthedigital.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/1149035987181461509)
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calumryan.com edited /events/2019-07-10-homebrew-website-club (+183) "/* Photos */ add London" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /unlisted (+1016) "/* public homepage and unlisted blog */ expand a bit on key aspects of an unlisted "blog"" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /unlisted (+978) "/* public homepage and unlisted blog */ design for (not for), expand on goals" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /public (+20) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /unlisted (+769) "/* public homepage and unlisted blog */ Additional useful features for an unlisted blog, one-off "public" posts" (view diff)
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petermolnar.net edited /unlisted (+488) "http basic auth" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Planning (+80) "/* NYC */ Nicole is a +0 for Oct 5-6" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Planning (+150) "/* Denver */ interested in organizing, also name.com folks" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Planning (+553) "/* 2019 */ re-order a bit based on "how real" they're looking (organizers, venue, dates), Berlin2 dates narrowing, add Oxford & Brighton stub sections since they're still linked" (view diff)
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[tantek] hey NYC organizers, how's progress on a venue / dates?
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[tantek] is Oct still a possibility?
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[tantek] oh I should post an indie event for HWC SF today oops
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[tantek] I'm going to cut it at 7pm. Jacky is so far the only RSVP besides me on the wiki 🙂
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jacky that sounds good with me
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@t Event: Homebrew Website Club SF! At: 2019-07-10 17:30 @MozSF RSVP: https://tantek.com/e/51T1 (twitter.com/_/status/1149084705548992512)
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-07-10-homebrew-website-club (-8) "/* San Francisco */ indie event" (view diff)
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[tantek] wonders if he's able to display jacky's RSVPs yet :)
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jacky ah hm
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jacky I'll have to edit and update it to point to that page
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[tantek] that's good test of webmention update code!
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jacky nah, I'll just delete and make a new one
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jacky lol darn okay
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jacky needs a dedicated interface for updating existing posts
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jacky darn quill doesn't do updates of rsvps
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jacky yeah I'll have to delete then
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@jackyalcine Check out https://indieweb.org/events/2019-07-10-homebrew-website-club for some of the talking points we’ll discuss at HWC SF tonight! (https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/bae656da-85fc-4132-b3f7-04e9e4cb7ef5) (twitter.com/_/status/1149086601299070976)
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jacky hmmm
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jacky that didn't show the way I wanted to
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jacky that's fine (for now) though
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jacky okay
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jacky hammered you with some webmentions
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jacky if it doesn't show, I'll use telegraph to be sure
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jacky doubly sure
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aaronpk !meme webmention time [hammer time]
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/51TQPZ1X.jpg
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jacky lol
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[tantek] Hmm not seeing it
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jacky is going to send via telegraph
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jacky is going to make a note to make the Webmention dashboard in Koype a bit more useful
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jacky agh
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jacky this is on my end
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jacky the `invalid_content` bit
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jacky aaronpk mentioned this and I hadn't fixed it yet
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jacky https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/bae656da-85fc-4132-b3f7-04e9e4cb7ef5 is my source
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aaronpk ohh yeah
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jacky I'll add this to the ticket so I remember to re-send this RSVP retroactively (lol)