#meta 2019-08-16

2019-08-16 UTC
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-08-21-homebrew-website-club (+1) "/* San Francisco */ indie event" (view diff)
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tomasparks i created a green computing page on the wiki, witch got deleted because I include a quote from wikipedia, I am wondering weather I should recreate the page
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tomasparks but without the wikipedia quote
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tomasparks ?
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[tantek] tomasparks please read https://indieweb.org/wikifying#Should_this_be_on_the_wiki and the next section before creating a new page on the wiki
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[tantek] and to be clear, it was not a quote from wikipedia, it was copy/pasted content without quotation and without attribution. that's particularly bad
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-08-16.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /blogging (+349) "adding some more links will keep building out page" (view diff)
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tomasparks.name created /green_computing (+857) "Created page with "{{stub}} <span class="p-summary">'''<dfn>Green Computer</dfn>''' is the environmentally responsible and eco-friendly use of computers and their resources. In broader terms, i..."" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] @tomsparks you may want to add info...I haven't found data yet still searching on the size of HTML only pages compared to larger frameworks or sites built using big toolchains
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[jgmac1106] in many ways the IndieWeb commitment to HTML makes it a positive green choice
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tomasparks @jgmac1106: html pages sizes https://httparchive.org/reports/page-weight
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aaronpk tomasparks: that definition is still copypaste from another website. While at least it's linked this time, that's still not acceptable, especially as the very first sentence of the page. It's better to define it in your own words, and including in the first sentence how it's related to IndieWeb can make it easier to think of a way to rewrite it.
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-08-16.html
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /Events (+577) "/* August */ adding event" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-08-16.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-08-16.html
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[tantek] what aaronpk said
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[tantek] [tomasparks] not sure how else to put this: please stop copy/pasting copyrighted content to the wiki in such whole big chunks. E.g. that was from a page that is "© 2019 Whitelabel IT Solutions "
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[tantek] I'm going to delete that text immediately and any further copy/pasted text
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tantek.com edited /green_computing (-215) "replace copyrighted copy/pasted dfn with a need for original dfn" (view diff)
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[tantek] wow Tumblr isn't even mentioned in our newsletter
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[tantek] um that's gotta be worth at least some IndieNews bookmarking of the podcast
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[KevinMarks] the podcast was a bit hard to get the link to - huffduffer got the wrong one
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[tantek] I used the iTunes link
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-08-16.html
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[KevinMarks] https://chtbl.com/track/524GE/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP5205969836.mp3 is the actual audio file
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[tantek] wat
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[KevinMarks] https://feeds.megaphone.fm/vergecast is the feed
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[tantek] not sure I trust an mp3 from a rando domain
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[tantek] especially to link to in permalinked newsletter 😕
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[KevinMarks] (the feed is a mess, there are no item permalinks)
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[KevinMarks] https://huffduffer.com/kevinmarks/545253
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Loqi [kevinmarks] Exclusive: Matt Mullenweg and Automattic bought Tumblr. What’s next?
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[KevinMarks] try that
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[KevinMarks] as it's huffduffer it should work with indienews
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-08-16.html
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[tantek] we need to get Jacky's talk and at least one photo in there too!
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[tantek] tweet with pix for the record https://twitter.com/brooklyn_js/status/1162163846783688704
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@brooklyn_js Up next, @jackyalcine is teaching us about the “fediverse,” the universe of federated sites where people can control their own content, data, and experiences 🕸🐘 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECDV2GFWwAIFaAm.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1162163846783688704)
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tomasparks.name edited /green_computing (+196) "tried to make summary have no copyright text" (view diff)
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[tantek] [tomasparks] that's better, now please include the relevance to the indieweb in the definition.
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[tantek] Also note that a "how to build" is a "How to" not an "Example". And what one *could* do or *wants* to do is "Brainstorming", not an actual "IndieWeb Example".
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[tantek] see https://indieweb.org/expand_a_page for more on that
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-08-16.html
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[tantek] alright let's start this
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[tantek] what is Brooklyn JS
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Brooklyn JS" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Brooklyn JS is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] Brooklyn JS is a monthly meetup in Brooklyn, NY, which occasionally has an IndieWeb related talk, like on 2019-08-15 by {{jackyalcine}}.
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /Brooklyn_JS (+163) "prompted by [tantek] and dfn added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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[tantek] Brooklyn JS << https://twitter.com/brooklyn_js
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/brooklyn_js" to a brand new "See Also" section of /Brooklyn_JS https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=64429&oldid=64428
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loqi.me edited /Brooklyn_JS (+51) "[tantek] added "https://twitter.com/brooklyn_js" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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[tantek] Brooklyn JS << https://twitter.com/brooklyn_js/status/1162163846783688704
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/brooklyn_js/status/1162163846783688704" to the "See Also" section of /Brooklyn_JS https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=64430&oldid=64429
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[tantek] have to run now, but if someone could help with adding that 2019-08-15 event to /events I'd appreciate it!
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[tantek] Brooklyn JS << http://brooklynjs.com/
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Loqi ok, I added "http://brooklynjs.com/" to the "See Also" section of /Brooklyn_JS https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=64431&oldid=64430
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[tantek] ^^^ very cool subway map/stop themed schedule/timeline!
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-08-16.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-08-16.html
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aaronparecki.com edited /Brooklyn_JS (+126) "add photo" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-08-16.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-08-16.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-08-16.html
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[tantek] wow this a great origin story and background: https://github.com/jed/building-brooklynjs
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[tantek] Brooklyn JS << Origin story: https://github.com/jed/building-brooklynjs
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Loqi ok, I added "Origin story: https://github.com/jed/building-brooklynjs" to the "See Also" section of /Brooklyn_JS https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=64433&oldid=64432
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[tantek] hmm I can't find permalinks for their events, e.g. with past agenda, speakers, photos, etc.
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[tantek] jacky do you know if Brooklyn JS has permalinks to specific events?
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tantek.com edited /Events (+447) "add 2019-08-15 brooklyn js where Jacky spoke on IndieWeb!" (view diff)
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-08-16.html
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tantek.com created /events/2019-08-15-brooklyn-js (+1021) "stub from microblog meetup, move photo here from /Brooklyn_JS" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Brooklyn_JS (-359) "move photo etc to specific event page, link to it" (view diff)
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[tantek] that should do it. hopefully the photo will show up in the next regeneration
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-08-16.html
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aaronpk tantek++
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Loqi tantek has 50 karma in this channel over the last year (119 in all channels)
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[tantek] hmm we are missing the ActivityPub conf, that's indieweb related enough that we should list it
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[tantek] let's see if I can get that listed before the next regeneration
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[tantek] ooh and HWC Barnsley 2 happened this week — anyone see any photos from that?
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tantek.com edited /Events (+1987) "add more HWC Brightons" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-08-15-homebrew-website-club (+127) "/* Blog posts */ add blog post" (view diff)
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[tantek] no Barnsley 2 photo, however a blog post! https://getdoingthings.com/blog/homebrew-website-club-barnsley-2-write-up/
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[tantek] ^^^ worth IndieNewsing that?
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[tantek] hmm I wonder if I can blog the IndieWebCamps in cities table in time for the newsletter
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-08-16.html
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tantek.com created /Istanbul (+137) "stub" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-08-16.html
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[tantek] did I make it?
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[tantek] wait I thought I had til 14:55
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[tantek] reads up, hmm " I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time". Ah well it was 14:50. Just missed it. Wonder if that means it'll go into next week's or if I posted in that limbo zone between last generation and the query for posts for next week (presuming it looks for 15:00 Friday or later), and thus it won't show up next week either
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[tantek] aaronpk, why does https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-08-16.html#new-wiki-pages say I created "green computing" when I definitely did not?
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[tantek] I mean, tomasparks should get proper credit there 🙂
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[tantek] What is Teesside?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Teesside" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Teesside is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] ^^^ 🙂
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[KevinMarks] Heh. I'll have a go. What to call this area is a real Bugger as they keep changing it.