#meta 2019-10-12

2019-10-12 UTC
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@thevulgarera I am all for this "IndieWeb" concept. The model of build a #Facebook, let it become an unmanageable monster, and set it loose on the world with little to no accountability for the chaos it causes can't be the norm. https://screenshot-magazine.com/visual-cultures/what-is-the-indieweb/ @screenshotmag #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1182816759532834816)
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@AndreJaenisch ↩️ Official spec: https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/ Known software: https://indieweb.org/Webmention#Publishing_Software SaaS: https://indieweb.org/Webmention#webmention.io My inherited take on implementation: https://github.com/Ryuno-Ki/webmention-tools AFAIK no implementation in Racket. But you could use a CLI for it in interim. (twitter.com/_/status/1182899056915505153)
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@IndieWebCampDE Nach einer längeren Sommerpause kommt nächsten Mittwoch wieder der Homebrew Website Club in Nürnberg zusammen: https://indieweb.org/events/2019-10-16-homebrew-website-club#N.C3.BCrnberg Du bastelst an einer persönlichen Website und möchtest das nicht alleine tun? Dann komm vorbei! (twitter.com/_/status/1182920087554215936)
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@jkphl It's been quite a break but next Wednesday we'll meet again at the #HomebrewWebsiteClub Nürnberg and tinker on our websites. Swing by! #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1182920468740878336)
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[Nicolas_Hoizey] Thanks a lot! ☺
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[Nicolas_Hoizey] Thank you for adding these to the newsletter!
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@alexcio_ Kommt vorbei zum nächsten #HomebrewWebsiteClub nächsten Mittwoch im @tollwerk! Ich bin leider in Dortmund aber vielleicht ab 2020 wieder regelmäßig mit dabei :) (twitter.com/_/status/1182974338070388736)
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@saskia747 Wie schauts aus #webdev ladys? @susiverse @setily1 Lust auf ein Treffen nächsten Mittwoch 16/10 beim #HomebrewWebsiteClub im @tollwerk? (twitter.com/_/status/1182985142027063296)
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@IndieWebLife Going to Indieweb Camp Berlin 2019? – ; #indieweblife https://cubicgarden.com/2019/04/16/going-to-indieweb-camp-berlin-2019/ (twitter.com/_/status/1182985611319353345)
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jeremycherfas Would anyone going to Brighton be interested in a session on storing and displaying personal information? I want to learn.
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[jgmac1106] jermeycherfas I am trying to brush up on my php skills to figure out light weight data storing and displaying, would love to lurk in that session or watch after
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[jgmac1106] specifically jeremycherfas I want to see if I can do all the storage in text files rather a database or use one of tiny ones
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[jgmac1106] but that is more dev
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[Rose] Jeremy I would be.
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jeremycherfas [Rose]++
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GWG aaronpk, any time for AMS videos?
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aaronpk yes I think I can do those today!
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GWG I am just annoyed there isn't a way to easily play them on my TV
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GWG The one YouTube benefit is easy leanback UI
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aaronpk that's true!
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sknebel can you use chromecast or apple's equivalent on random videofiles on the web? (e.g. those at archive.org)
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Zegnat Yes-ish? I think Chrome on Android can cast any HTML5 video element?
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Zegnat Another YouTube benefit is the many encodings they offer for low bandwidth <3
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GWG I wondered if we can do something on our end
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aaronpk I feel like we should be collecting these benefits of youtube somewhere
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sknebel what is video?
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Loqi video is a type of post where the primary content is a video file (recorded movie, animation etc.) typically with audio, and has growing support on the indie web https://indieweb.org/video
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aaronpk there I added a few https://indieweb.org/YouTube#Why
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Zegnat Well, if they go to the internet archive, you can probably upload as many variations as you want. But someone then needs to do those reencodings first and upload them all
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GWG I feel like we need to create a page that shows our IWC videos from archive.org better
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aaronpk GWG they should all be linked from the schedule grid of each IWC
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aaronpk which is pretty good IMO
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aaronpk it's no gallery style view, but it's easily navigable
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sknebel I'm often a bit unhappy with how it takes a few clicks/scrolling too many to get to schedule pages. maybe we should put a schedule link more front-and-center during and after the event.
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GWG aaronpk, I was more thinking...when I want to see discussions on a topic... I am not going to go through every IWC
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aaronpk GWG that sounds like we need to link to the session pages from their corresponding topics
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aaronpk and then link to the videos from the session pages
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GWG aaronpk, exactly
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GWG Is there a way to get a list of sessions, independent of camp?
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/Category:2019_sessions
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GWG I think we could set something up we could expand over time
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GWG Will think
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GWG The 2019 sessions is a good example, although it doesn't show the title of the talk, only the tag
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GWG Reminds me, I need to update https://david.shanske.com/indiewebcamps/
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GWG A while back, I read through 10 years of issues on a topic. Some of the old ideas were useful
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GWG Not sure what might happen if I start looking through old IWC notes
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[KevinMarks] I get chromecast badges on gifs on twitter (but not on videos)
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Zegnat [KevinMarks], wonder how much of that is because GIFs are actually being served in a video format these days, while actual video is hidden behind twenty layers of JS abstraction they call a “player”
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gRegorLove While archiving sessions I found https://indieweb.org/Category:syndication another session was in, so added a couple more. I think I've sometimes added a "Sessions" section on pages too.
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gRegorLove chrisaldrich has been good about linking to WP sessions
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gRegorLove Found one: /reader#Sessions
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gRegorLove Checking the "What Links Here" special page could help find those sessions, btw, then can link them back from the topic.
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@jozefmaxted ↩️ @jftzsmns @eleven_ty Check out the webmentions proposal https://indieweb.org/Webmention (twitter.com/_/status/1183160741731471360)
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[tantek] Jeremycherfas I would be interested specifically in the example of storing reply-context information (which comes from someone else’s site)
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[tantek] Aaronpk you’re looking for /YouTube#Features rather than a why section
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aaronpk eh not really
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[tantek] It’s how neutrally document features of other silos rather than assuming those features would be sufficient reason to use a silo (which is a separate weighing of pros and cons)
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aaronpk nobody said anything about "sufficient"
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[tantek] Why implies that
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aaronpk "why" implies "here is a list of reasons, you decide if those reasons are enough for you"
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[tantek] Sure