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@frankmeeuwsen Handleidingen om op het Indieweb te starten. Hoe je het doet en waarom het relevant is. “Be the change you want to see in the web”. Deze week in mijn nieuwsbrief OPEN S01E17 - Hoe start je met het Indieweb op WordPress? http://nieuws.diggingthedigital.com/archive/205370 (via @revue) (twitter.com/_/status/1187262507100131328)
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calumryan.com edited /Planning (+47) "/* Dusseldorf */" (view diff)
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calumryan.com edited /Planning (+4) "/* Dusseldorf */ spelling change to Tellerrand" (view diff)
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@wastemobile 之前覺得 micro-blog https://micro.blog 介面精簡、概念蠻有趣的，但一直沒碰，今天才赫然發現原來是 IndieWeb 的先鋒啊！ 但是⋯⋯靜態網站做不到 IndieWeb 溝通這一層⋯⋯啊啊⋯⋯ 有興趣的參考一下 https://indiewebify.me/ (twitter.com/_/status/1187314827963727872)
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GWG [tantek]: There is not a SF page to add to
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@IndieWebLife Testing Out IndieWeb With Poetry | The Daily Connector #indieweb https://dailyconnector.com/2018/10/10/testing-out-indieweb-with-poetry/#respond (twitter.com/_/status/1187334320987496448)
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@miklb In some personal news, I’ve been accepted into the GitHub Sponsors program & you can now sponsor my work on my IndieWeb Jekyll & WordPress themes or to work on other open source projects. More details soon. (twitter.com/_/status/1187343061237587968)
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GWG Hey, [jgmac1106], you want to go to Berlin?
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@swentel An interesting way to test the upcoming release of #Drupal is to have a contrib test configured which tests against the prerelease. Yesterday @alexpott found a regression thanks to the #indieweb tests :) https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3089697 (twitter.com/_/status/1187351550785708033)
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@wastemobile 果然 WordPress 生態系幅員廣大。 IndieWeb Plugin for WordPress http://bit.ly/2od6SAc https://t.co/xijs9apucl (twitter.com/_/status/1187355458249474050)
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@jgmac1106 2019-09-13 8:54 @dogtrax IndieWeb poetry didn't syndicate because of incorrect metadata. Most of the IndieWeb tools rely on a type of extra data called microformats. If you did this same poem on your http://write.as blog it would have worked (I… https://jgregorymcverry.com/notes/2019-10-24-1 (twitter.com/_/status/1187356179992846336)
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[jgmac1106] gwg my travel funds are limited but I can check with work and my boss...little close to thanksgiving but should be able to back in time before things hit full swing
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GWG I might be able to help
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[tantek] SF is after Thanksgiving
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[jgmac1106] yeah and maybe need to stick with no intercontinental travel for IWC without other travel reason (which would include a family vacation in my ethical compass...luckily too broke for that dilemma)
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[tantek] if you're worried about travel for ethical (presumably carbon) reasons, those reasons should be enough to first alter your diet because that will have a larger impact (see Guardian UK article accordingly). corollary if it's not then changing flight behavior won't make that much of a % difference to your carbon output
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sebsel searches and finds this https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/19/guardian-climate-pledge-2019-air-travel-advice
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[tantek] travel << Why: by making travel posts, and perhaps an aggregation per month & year, you could automatically track total amounts by mode of transport, e.g. to help follow advice like: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/19/guardian-climate-pledge-2019-air-travel-advice
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Loqi ok, I added "Why: by making travel posts, and perhaps an aggregation per month & year, you could automatically track total amounts by mode of transport, e.g. to help follow advice like: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/19/guardian-climate-pledge-2019-air-travel-advice" to the "See Also" section of /travel https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=65868&oldid=48373
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[tantek] and apparently clothing purchases are worse than transport as well https://twitter.com/caseorganic/status/1186423102269296640
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@caseorganic Quick reminder: the fashion industry emits more carbon than international flights + maritime shipping combined. https://www.businessinsider.com/fast-fashion-environmental-impact-pollution-emissions-waste-water-2019-10 The fashion industry is also the 2nd-largest consumer of water worldwide. Many 2nd hand places to get clothes. @poshmark or @therealreal are 💯. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHcFhVlU8AAAwih.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1186423102269296640)
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[jgmac1106] I don't eat red meat, was Vegan for 7 years, and vegetarian for 13, try to eat as local as possible, just trying to make myself feel better if I can't go
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[tantek] [jgmac1106]
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] ++
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Loqi [jgmac1106] has 54 karma in this channel over the last year (114 in all channels)
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[jgmac1106] you've seen me dress...fashion ain't on my list, majority of my clothes and my kids clothes all bought at Goodwill
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[tantek] amazing
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[jgmac1106] more chat though...yeah tip is to drive to the rich towns and shop[ at Goodwill....luckily (or unlucy) CT has a few....
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[jgmac1106] maybe the climate crisis session from Brighton just on my mind, would love to see Berlin, UK onluy country in Europe where I have traveled
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[jgmac1106] SF...maybe but really I can only afford Summit and NYC in one year, gonna try and see if I can scare up a consulting gig for either locale
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[tantek] the person who is the best at this that I know is rhiaro
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[tantek] continuous source of inspiration of what's possible
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[jgmac1106] superhuman
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[jgmac1106] role model for everyone
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[jgmac1106] making me think I want to add a "Climate Mitigation" page to my site....I still say by nature IWC approach the most smallest impact conference option out there in both tech and edu conferences I attend
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[jgmac1106] by its very nature our camps are a magnitude better than the swag filled vendor halls, badges full of tracking electronics, exorbitant meals, and plastic marketing materials to be trashed...so I am okay with people attending them regardless of country of oirigin
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[tantek] what is sustainability
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "sustainability" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "sustainability is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] hmm I thought we had a page for this. maybe it's only /Organizers
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[jgmac1106] we talked about it here, but decided it was an inclusivity theme even though someone asked us to add it there: https://indieweb.org/inclusivity_statement
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[jgmac1106] https://indieweb.org/inclusivity_statement#Should_we_add_something_about_climate
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[jgmac1106] wasn't*
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tantek.com created /2019/SF (+3733) "stub based on 2018/SF" (view diff)
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[tantek] !tell GWG there you go: https://indieweb.org/2019/SF
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] wow the /TikTok page needs help
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[snarfed] not sure if we've talked about this before here, but let's maybe consider avoiding "@ here" on slack unless it's something urgent and time sensitive that most or all of the channel needs to respond to?
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/53Dv6Kfa.jpg
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[snarfed] good to be conscious of notification/interrupt overload and try to minimize it, etc
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aaronpk i'm disabling them in the admin settings in slack
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[schmarty] hugops++ interrupts--
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Loqi hugops has 1 karma over the last year
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aaronpk we don't have global notifications in IRC so it seems fair to make slack match
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[snarfed] thanks aaronpk!
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[tantek] Hey folks I'd like to officially launch tickets for Berlin2 tomorrow morning at Redecentralize ~10:30 BST (+01:00) so if there's anything anyone can do to help with the various pages, the event page itself 2019.indieweb.org/berlin2 it would be greatly appreciated!
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[tantek] aaronpk disagreed, that's lowest common denominator reasoning
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[tantek] that's like saying IRC lacks avatars so we should remove them in slack
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aaronpk avatars are progressive enhancement
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Loqi [github] Pull request opened by aaronpk: https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/pull/97
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aaronpk [tantek] [Rose] ^^
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aaronpk or anyone else
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Loqi [github] Pull request merged by sknebel: https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/pull/97
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed indieweb/2019.indieweb.org to https://2019.indieweb.org
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aaronpk progress!
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[tantek] aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 52 karma in this channel over the last year (192 in all channels)
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GWG [tantek]: Any areas recommended for hotels?
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Loqi GWG: [tantek] left you a message 1 hour, 38 minutes ago: there you go: https://indieweb.org/2019/SF
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[tantek] GWG, SF is difficult for hotels. I'd suggest using whatever discount methods you normally use for a city.
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GWG [tantek]: I just don't know neighborhoods. How is Union Square
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[tantek] Union Square is fine. I can provide more details in chat
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GWG Okay
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[tantek] still looking for co-organizers for IWC SF
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@ochtendgrijs ↩️ ‘Ja, maar de likes!’ (1) Zoek online eens op ‘IndieWeb’. Je kunt ‘sociale’ likes en consorten dezer dagen relatief gemakkelijk op je eigen site verzamelen. (2) De ‘likes’, seriously? Wat zijt ge, onderzoeker of entertainer? (twitter.com/_/status/1187454067662082049)
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@frontender_ua The IndieWeb Movement: Owning Your Data and Being the Change You Want to See in the Web https://www.jvt.me/posts/2019/10/20/indieweb-talk/ (twitter.com/_/status/1187463926461583362)
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@soulcruzer I had an all out geek-fest today. I want to get myself to at least IndieWeb level 1 and run as much of my web presence from my self-hosted blog as possible. I haven’t quite found the right aesthetic yet or the one ring to rule them all. But I have learned a whole lot. (twitter.com/_/status/1187494348713279488)
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GWG The 7th of December is not a Tuesday. https://indieweb.org/2019/SF