#meta 2019-11-06

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[tantek]
heads-up aaronpk, everyone planning for Summit 2020. It's June 27-28 (Saturday Sunday) as /2020 says, not June 26-27 as the 2020.indieweb page says
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[tantek]
pull requests coming up
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[tantek]
27-28 June is Saturday & Sunday
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aaronpk
wtf I double checked that like 3 times
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[tantek]
I mean it's at the top of /2020 😂
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Loqi
[github] Successfully deployed indieweb/2020.indieweb.org to https://2020.indieweb.org
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aaronpk
well y'all can fix it I'm going to bed
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[tantek]
what just happened
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[tantek]
oops I did a commit
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aaronpk
Oh I haven't turned on forced PR approval on it yet
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[tantek]
insert dog typing gif
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aaronpk
Good enough
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Loqi
[github] Pull request opened by tantek: https://github.com/indieweb/2020.indieweb.org/pull/1
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[tantek]
ok I think I got it right this time (the GitHub ceremony that is 😉 )
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Loqi
[github] Pull request merged by gRegorLove: https://github.com/indieweb/2020.indieweb.org/pull/1
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Loqi
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gregorlove.com
created /Category:IndieWebCamp_SF_2019 (+94) "IndieWebCamp SF 2019"
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[bradleyallen]
what is Loqi
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Loqi
Loqi is a friendly and useful bot/digital therapist present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/Loqi
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tantek.com
edited /2020 (+141) "extrapolating donutjs, noting adjacent Portland events"
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@magentaceiba
↩️ Fyi people at IndieWeb are making an events tool so people can display the same event listing across multiple websites and social. That way an org could "own" their listing on their homebase yet display it on related networks and coalitions etc.
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@Cambridgeport90
I need to see whether #Bridgy is now working with #Mastodon. I actually set that up. #indieweb #forthewin
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@IndieWebLife
Recommendation to visit and check: IndieWeb Summit 2016 #indieweblife https://marcthiele.com/links/indieweb-sumit
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@geonz
Well, that's interesting. If I don't carefullyh make sure to go to https: on my website, pages are blank. #indieweb life is a challenge... guess I get to figure out how to do redirects...
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[dougbeal]
!tell gRegorLove: going to shoot for 13th for next HWC Seattle
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aaronpk
alright i'm doing the thing
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aaronpk
gonna go offline for a bit
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aaronpk
to move the server
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aaronpk
and back
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@helpfuldigital
.@IndieWebCamp was back in Brighton again last month for a weekend of talks, discussion and making, along with a meeting for IndieWeb organisers the day before. Our @calum_ryan has rounded up all of the key discussions here #indieweb #indiewebcamp https://calumryan.com/blog/indiewebcamp-brighton-2019/
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aaronpk
Let me know if the wiki seems fast again. I think it is better now
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[LewisCowles]
[aaronpk]++
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Loqi
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www.sukiletxe.eu
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created /User:Www.sukiletxe.eu (+336) "Created page with "<div class="p-summary"> {{Infobox person |name = Sukil Etxenike |url = https://www.sukiletxe.eu/ |summary = Sukil is an amateur programmer, occassional translator and blogger....""
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created /Template:sukiletxe (+69) "Created page with "<span class="h-card">[[User:www.sukiletxe.eu Sukil Etxenike]]</span>""
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created /Nikola (+261) "Created page with "{{stub}} Nikola is an open source [[Static site generator]] written in Python. It supports [http://plugins.getnikola.com/v7/continuous_import importing rss feeds as posts] a...""
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aaronparecki.com
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@mantonsblog
IndieWeb Meetup in Austin tonight! 6:30pm at Mozart’s Coffee. Super informal, everyone’s welcome. I’ll bring some http://Micro.blog stickers. ☕
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Loqi
[github] Successfully deployed aaronpk/indielogin.com to https://indielogin.com
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@adactio
Tomorrow, Thursday evening, in Brighton there’s Homebrew Website Club at 6pm in @68MiddleSt and @AsyncJS from 7:15 in @TheSkiff. If you’re in town for @FFConf, come along! https://adactio.com/notes/16071
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@jgmac1106
@traceyhabla Una web solo en inglés no es una web abierta. Necesitamos compartir historias indígenas en lenguas nativas y bilingües. Trae @JordanJagsLib a esto https://twitter.com/mantonsblog/status/1192110090930798592 y crea un sitio web (Bob también puede ir). #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1Aorm5)
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@geonz
Welp, #indieweb, once more I'm hitting dead ends. I simply don't have extra hours to figure out the tech stuff to get stuff online (redirect to https://). Back to other angles.
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snarfed.org
created /size (+1381) "mf2 property; first draft"
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snarfed.org
edited /duration (+305) "how to publish"
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@jgmac1106
Can you link to the page where you got the redirect to your htaccess file? I can check to see if it is correct. As a wordpressdotcom site (unless on really high paid tier) there isn't much #IndieWeb building blocks to add FYI. Just try Bridgy and… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/11/06/can-you-link-to-the-page-where
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www.jeremycherfas.net
edited /feed (-112) "/* How To Test */ Updating and adding Monocle preview, deleted "Previously""
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@jgmac1106
↩️ Can you add your htaccess file to a gist? https://gist.github.com If I can't figure it out we can ask in #IndieWeb dev chat.... (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/17f92p)
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[tantek]
[jgmac1106] it's like fish and water in IndieWeb. You don't think you know any devops hobbyists when actually you've been swimming in a school of them *since you got here*
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[jgmac1106]
good point
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Loqi
nerd has 1 karma over the last year
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[tantek]
nerds++
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Loqi
nerds has 1 karma over the last year
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[jgmac1106]
figuring in post above I am trying to help someone configure their htaccess file to get something to work
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jeremycherfas
I was going to refer to the man who discovered he'd been writing prose all his life, but thought better of it until you brought up fish and water.
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[tantek]
htaccess = devops
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[tantek]
btw this is why you/we still here the offhand remark "isn't IndieWeb the people that run their own servers?"
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[tantek]
this (devops hobby) is at the heart of that remark even if it is not literally accurate
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@swentel
I'm so suprised nobody has written a WebSub module for Drupal 8. Guess I'll have another little project on my sleeve :) I'll include it as a submodule in the IndieWeb package as I want to keep it very minimal. #indieweb
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[tantek]
swentel++
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Loqi
swentel has 7 karma in this channel over the last year (28 in all channels)
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[tantek]
WebSub++
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Loqi
WebSub has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (4 in all channels)
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@jgmac1106
↩️ Yes most ardent folks of "just put it on your website" like #IndieWeb advocates do this stuff as obby, if trying to get plumbing to work is keeping you from building the best tutoring website who cares...you can already "just put in on your site… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/11/06/geonz-yes-most-ardent-folks-of
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tantek.com
edited /fraidycat (+29) "fix dfn"
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tantek.com
edited /2020 (+176) "separate Portland and other adjacent events, add HWC PDX pop-up because we always do"
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[Rose]
Wow, I missed that tickets for IWS are available. Oversight rectified!
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@bzelip
Is the point of micropub to publish via an interface instead of raw files? #indieweb @indiewebcamp https://indieweb.org/Micropub
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@geonz
↩️ (and now the whole site is down, 500 errors which I only found trying tolink to the site in the support request. Love the #indieweb concept but it's like "build your own helicopter!!"
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@jgmac1106
↩️ well to be fair what you are trying to do has nothing to do with #IndieWeb and more to do with your shared host. Forcing an https redirect shouldn't require that much in an htaccess file. File you shared links to cpanel and old php versions. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/ombfP)
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[fluffy]
so, looks like once again I’ll have to choose between Trans Pride and Indie Web Summit.
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[fluffy]
I mean it’s not a hard decision, IWS is way more compelling to me
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@geonz
↩️ Welp, #indieweb helped inspire me (literally and with good advice from you and others ) to revive my website instead of wrestling with, say, geogebra, or Google Docs. I think you are right that HTML has awesome potential for accessibly engaging activities.
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@jgmac1106
↩️ Yeah you basically commented out each line accept turning the rewrite engine on... Now basically your entire rewrite rule is commented out so site works. Feel free to stop by dev channel in http://chat.indieweb.org to ask people who can actually… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/11/06/geonz-yeah-you-basically-commented-out-each
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gRegorLove_
Yay, look forward to meeting you at IWS, [Rose]!
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Loqi
gRegorLove_: [dougbeal] left you a message 16 hours, 44 minutes ago: going to shoot for 13th for next HWC Seattle
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@jgmac1106
↩️ reason both Piaget and Vygotsky believed learning connected to frustration. Luckily #IndieWeb uses a more social model aligned to Vygotsky. This isn't developmental but social...and not your fault. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1DMJ7X)
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[tantek]
[fluffy] yeah unfortunate conflict again. Though I believe we are actively working to avoid that conflict in 2021
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[tantek]
what is 2021
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Loqi
The IndieWebCamp community is planning numerous upcoming events, including future IndieWebCamps, regular Homebrew Website Club meetups, talks, and other proposals — if you'd like to help, please contribute to this page https://indieweb.org/2021
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[fluffy]
yeah I mentioned it to you and Aaron at the end of 2019 and I appreciated your response then
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gRegorLove
On https://2020.indieweb.org/summit, I think this line comes from Tito, can't find it in the repo to update it: "Travel assistance applications for the 2019 Summit are now closed. But if you would like to contribute..."
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Loqi
IndieWeb Summit
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[fluffy]
I have trouble even planning where I’m going to be in the next week, much less in two years 😛
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[tantek]
You can indicate a preference 🙂
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[tantek]
and/or anti-preference
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[fluffy]
I mean my only preference has been indicated already 🙂
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[tantek]
I mean on the record there so I'm not the only one doing so 😂
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beesbuzz.biz
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GWG
I think we really wanted to start early on IWS and the trade-off is sometimes conflicts arise
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GWG
Still better than insufficient lead time
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gregorlove.com
edited /Planning (+88) "/* Summit */ votes"
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gregorlove.com
edited /Planning (+17) "/* Other New Locations */ always yes to Chicago"
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[tantek]
I have confirmation from adactio for 11/7 and 11/21 for HWC Brighton
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Loqi
[Jeremy Keith] Tomorrow, Thursday evening, in Brighton there’s Homebrew Website Club at 6pm in @68MiddleSt and @AsyncJS from 7:15 in @TheSkiff. If you’re in town for @FFConf, come along!
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[tantek]
I have to be careful about visiting adactio's home page as he blogs about far too many interesting things. So many rabbitholes
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[tantek]
javascript << 2019-11-04 [https://adamsilver.io/articles/javascript-isnt-always-available-and-its-not-the-users-fault/ JavaScript isn’t always available and it’s not the user’s fault] <blockquote>the problem is less about the 1% of users who always visit your site without JavaScript and more about the 1% of visits to your site which result in users experiencing your site without JavaScript</blockquote>
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Loqi
ok, I added "2019-11-04 [https://adamsilver.io/articles/javascript-isnt-always-available-and-its-not-the-users-fault/ JavaScript isn’t always available and it’s not the user’s fault] <blockquote>the problem is less about the 1% of users who always visit your site without JavaScript and more about the 1% of visits to your site which result in users experiencing your site without JavaScript</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /JavaScript https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=66243&oldid=63808
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[tantek]
Javascript << ^^^ <blockquote>If you had an application bug which occurred 1% of the time, you’d fix it. No team I’ve come across would put up with that level of reliability.</blockquote>
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Loqi
ok, I added "^^^ <blockquote>If you had an application bug which occurred 1% of the time, you’d fix it. No team I’ve come across would put up with that level of reliability.</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /JavaScript https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=66244&oldid=66243
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[tantek]
performance << 2019-10-30 [https://blog.stephaniestimac.com/posts/10-30-2019-performance/ Location, Privilege and Performant Websites] <blockquote>Assuming all of your customers are living the same life, with the same privilege, with the same access to fast internet and data is the quickest way to ensure you’re excluding some of them and not providing the same level of service the rest get.</blockquote>
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Loqi
ok, I added "2019-10-30 [https://blog.stephaniestimac.com/posts/10-30-2019-performance/ Location, Privilege and Performant Websites] <blockquote>Assuming all of your customers are living the same life, with the same privilege, with the same access to fast internet and data is the quickest way to ensure you’re excluding some of them and not providing the same level of service the rest get.</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /performance https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=66245&oldid=65189
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aaronpk
gRegorLove_: shoot thanks yeah that's in the ticket description in Tito
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@kevinmarks
↩️ @jimmy_wales Come talk to the #indieweb people about scaling things and interop http://chat.indieweb.org
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[chrisbergr]
The first IndieWeb-related thing that was easy 🙂
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loqi.me
created /IndieWeb_centric (+21) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]"
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[tantek]
so that's an amazing series of emoji wow
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[tantek]
the mighty pen, a speedboat, and a dragon. nice
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[chrisbergr]
Funfact: When I was young, I always wanted to have a dragon tattoo like Crying Freeman https://s3.amazonaws.com/comicgeeks/comics/covers/large-8805501.jpg
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[chrisbergr]
It's a sad thing that there are pages that don't include the small snippet and you can't get any further.
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[tantek]
I believe it's supposed to self-heal and drop those pages over time
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[tantek]
[schmarty]?
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[chrisbergr]
That would be great. Because pointing the finger at someone isn't cool either.
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[schmarty]
I haven't set up the self-healing cron job yet :/
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[schmarty]
There's a script for it, but I currently have to remember to run it by hand (when ppl bring broken pages to my attention)
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tantek.com
edited /Events (+425) "HWC Brighton in Nov 7 & 21"
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