#meta 2019-11-26

2019-11-26 UTC
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GWG Good news and bad news from footage land.
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GWG I have some good footage.
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GWG And some bad footage.
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GWG I think with some work I can put something up.
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GWG !tell aaronpk I will try to empty the Zoom accounts tonight if I don't nod off
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106] Gwg, if we can just record the demo and intro conputer and get a camera on the speaker doing video in video a minor edit
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GWG [jgmac1106]: I think I have enough to do that
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[jgmac1106] But then you can't swap the keynote/intro/demo computer
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[jgmac1106] Unless you are using that hdmi thing you were talking about... But camcorder or webcam and mic on speaker. Screen recorder... Would do the job
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[tantek] This 2019 homepage project is quickly going to become a 2020 homepage project. Though I've started extracting from the *2018* IWC NYC session and outlining the different levels, meanings, etc.: https://indieweb.org/2019/homepage#Three_Main_Options
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Loqi [tantek]: gRegorLove left you a message 1 day, 1 hour ago: archived https://indieweb.org/2019/Berlin2/Organizers#Notes
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[tantek] Thanks gRegorLove. Now we need to go through those notes and identify key things such as:
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[tantek] 👥 Decision
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[tantek] 🔲 Action needed
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[tantek] ✅ Action completed
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gRegorLove Yeah, I almost pulled out some things but figured I'd play it safe since I wasn't there. I was looking at https://indieweb.org/2019/Organizers#Task_List
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[tantek] Would be interesting to see your interpretation actually, having you *not* be there
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[tantek] and if you're not sure, leave tasks marked as Action needed
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[tantek] And if there was a discussion without any decision, we should maybe record that too somehow
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gRegorLove Ok. I might be able to review it on Friday
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[tantek] That'd be great!
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gRegorLove I should revisit https://indieweb.org/Organizers#How_To too and make sure previous Organizers Meetup task lists aren't getting overlooked
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[tantek] Having another organizer review decisions/actions that only 3 other organizers decided upon (but for IWC in general) sounds like a good check & balance
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Loqi +1
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[tantek] One thing was clear that from reading /Organizers#How_To , GWG wasn't sure how to actually run the Organizers meeting, where do we start, with what, how do we actually "process" an item, what are expected conclusions from a discussion, how do we know when we're "done" discussing something? or at least done "enough" to record some sort of interim conclusion that can be further iterated next time
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[tantek] ok so that was more than one thing
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gRegorLove haha
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gRegorLove Hm, some of those questions are in https://indieweb.org/Organizers#Process_Issues_at_the_Organizers_Meetup GWG can you clarify any questions and I can work on rephrasing as necessary
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[tantek] I think he was just confused where to even start
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[tantek] and what steps to follow
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gRegorLove Ok, I'll review. I'm doing NaBloPoMo and running out of post ideas so maybe I'll make that one :D
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GWG I should have reread the instructions before I got there.
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GWG Also sleep deprived
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Loqi totally
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GWG I have some thoughts I may try to write out
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[jgmac1106] tantek and the organizers meeting is usually broken into two components logistics for event the next day and then organizers issues....
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[jgmac1106] not sure how to address as logistic for events immediate but maybe if it is an "official organizers meet up" it is about bigger issues
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[jgmac1106] maybe agenda split in two? not sure
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[jgmac1106] but sometimes you will remote into organizers meeting and all the time spent on the event..which is critical...but different..like you need a small "o" organizers meet up the day before an event but every once in awhile a big "O" Organizers meeting
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gRegorLove urgent items and next-day items should be added to the Organizer Meetup page directly, by someone attending. That distinction may not be clear vs. the general list /Organizers#Issues that anyone can/should add to.
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gRegorLove So general priority should probably be: issues on the meetup page itself, open issues from previous meetup, then the general /Organizers#Issues list
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GWG To be honest, when I showed up, I thought we were going to discuss only local matters because we had only 3 people and no remotes. I confess to not expecting us to tackle some bigger picture issues, though I did find the discussion productive
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gRegorLove That is a good distinction
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GWG gRegorLove: I would also give the feedback that I didn't realize that I would end up moderating. Probably should see if that can be decided in advance if we know who is attending
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gRegorLove Like leading the meetup?
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gRegorLove Or was there a hot debate? jk
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GWG gRegorLove: The person who tries to keep people on topic and move things along. Whatever the term chosen.
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[tantek] everyone should try to keep us all on topic and moving things along 🙂
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[tantek] it's a good skill for every organizer to embrace and put into practice actively
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GWG Agreed
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GWG But it doesn't always play out that way