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tantek.com edited /Planning (-32) "/* Los Angeles */ -1 for 2/22-23" (view diff)
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[tantek] chrisaldrich, thanks for the update. does this mean we can/should postpone from February to say April?
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chrisaldrich Likely... but give me a couple of days...
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chrisaldrich I think I may have two others to help out as local co-organizers.
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@andigalpern Hanging out at @Mozilla for @indiewebcamp. @jackyalcine is leading a discussion on how to vouch for commenters on your personal site. “Trust is subjective, trust is how you define it.” @jackyalcine (twitter.com/_/status/1203466493180006401)
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jackyalcine yo random
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jackyalcine can we get some of the images on the chat-name pages using a imageproxy?
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jackyalcine the page moves a bti slow and it's an annoying warning
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jackyalcine if it's simple, I have no problem doing it
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gRegorLove there's an image proxy on the year subdomains like 2019.indieweb.org, don't know the impl details of it
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jackyalcine gotcha
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jackyalcine I see it https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:chat-user&action=edit for stuff
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jackyalcine oh it's via the 2019 site itself
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jackyalcine wants @aaronpk's proxy
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jackyalcine he's also running one himself at https://imageproxy.black.af
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gRegorLove Yeah, that /img.php takes a local image file, so it's caching those images somehow
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aaronpk i've been having success with willnorris' go proxy so i could set that up on an indieweb.org subdomain
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aaronpk it wouldn't be an automatic thing for chat-names unless someone wants to figure out how to write a mediawki plugin to rewrite urls
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tantek.com edited /Special:Log/upload () "uploaded a new version of "[[File:2019-341-iwc-sf-grid.jpg]]"" (view diff)
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[tantek] ^^^ gRegorLove last update (I hope). one session moved rooms, one session dropped
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gRegorLove I figured the move out when the Orange room never started :)
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[tantek] sorry just trying to keep up 😂
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gRegorLove no worries :)
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gregorlove.com edited /2019/SF/Schedule (-153) "/* Saturday */ Best Practice Social Linkage session dropped" (view diff)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2019-341-iwc-sf-copywriting-1.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2019-341-iwc-sf-copywriting-1.jpg"
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[tantek] uploading photos from sessions
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[tantek] https://twitter.com/andigalpern/status/1203466493180006401 photos of for /2019/SF/vouchnext (once it is created)
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@andigalpern Hanging out at @Mozilla for @indiewebcamp. @jackyalcine is leading a discussion on how to vouch for commenters on your personal site. “Trust is subjective, trust is how you define it.” @jackyalcine https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELOR4JbVAAAbGfg.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1203466493180006401)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2019-341-iwc-sf-webactions-1.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2019-341-iwc-sf-webactions-1.jpg"
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gregorlove.com created /2019/SF/vouchnext (+3533) "archive etherpad" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2019/SF/vouchnext (+73) "Photos: Andi's tweet" (view diff)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2019-341-iwc-sf-coffee.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2019-341-iwc-sf-coffee.jpg"
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gregorlove.com edited /Vouch (+40) "Sessions" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Vouch (+68) "/* Sessions */ more sessions" (view diff)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2019-341-iwc-sf-breakfast-burritos.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2019-341-iwc-sf-breakfast-burritos.jpg"
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@ricfink ↩️ @andigalpern @mozilla @indiewebcamp @jackyalcine Wow, sounds GOOD! (twitter.com/_/status/1203474346582269952)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2019-341-iwc-sf-pastries.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2019-341-iwc-sf-pastries.jpg"
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gregorlove.com created /2019/SF/webmentions (+2764) "archive etherpad" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com created /2019/SF/polycroppingsocial (+1539) "archive etherpad" (view diff)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2019-341-iwc-sf-adactio-keynote.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2019-341-iwc-sf-adactio-keynote.jpg"
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gRegorLove Haha, loved Andi's tada at the end
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jackyalcine boo lol
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gregorlove.com created /2019/SF/indienext (+4180) "archive etherpad" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2019/SF/Schedule (+12) "/* Saturday */ archived sessions" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /glossary (+503) "stub with dfn, terms stub list, origin, see also" (view diff)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2019-341-iwc-sf-copywriting-2.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2019-341-iwc-sf-copywriting-2.jpg"
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[tantek] ^^^ for adding to /2019/SF/copywriting once it is created
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[tantek] actually I just added it to its etherpad
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tantek.com moved /2019-12-indieweb-challenge to /2019-12-indieweb-gift-calendar "rename per discussion"
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tantek.com moved /IndieWeb_Challenge to /IndieWeb_Gift_Calendar
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tantek.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (+3) "rename challenge per discussion" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2019-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+223) "history, renaming complete" (view diff)
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@generativist #indieweb is cool That’s it. That’s the whole tweet. (twitter.com/_/status/1203495638660308992)
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jacky Now I'm here in every platform lol
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jacky Really had a good day today! Excited to see the demos tomorrow!
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@generativist ↩️ @made_in_cosmos @visakanv I spent some time with the @indiewebcamp community today. It was a lot of fun! (twitter.com/_/status/1203510335707074561)
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[yo] Looks like the Twitter bridge is working again
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@generativist 1/ There are so many people I enjoy following and talking with on here. And so many people I don’t think I would have come across otherwise. But hanging out and @indiewebcamp made me remember how exciting small, intimate, and mission-oriented groups are. (twitter.com/_/status/1203513669121785856)
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@jackyalcine @indiewebcamp San Francisco had a really good first day. Got a chance to talk about design, #Vouch https://indieweb.org/Vouch and more processes around helping people connect to one another with safety in mind. (twitter.com/_/status/1203515089002881024)
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GWG Hmm
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GWG That transcription recorder is great, jgmac1106
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sentamal.in edited /chat-names (+111) (view diff)
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@giuseppegurgone ↩️ yea I have been rediscovering the beauty of a personal site! If I have time on xmas I want to add a section to write "notes" (tweet-size posts) and maybe add support for web mentions and maybe even https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/1203589493665812480)
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@IndieWebLife Why I'm supporting the IndieWeb (and you should too) - MarketGoo #indieweblife https://www.marketgoo.com/blog/2019/04/30/why-support-indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/1203641790508797952)
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@kisik21 This is what I call success! I’m able to render my posts with #React and at the same time curl them! By the way, I tested this with JS disabled, and it still looks pretty good! #JSDR # indieweb #nextjs (twitter.com/_/status/1203668053264863232)
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@zsbenke I made a lot of adjustments to my blog to use IndieWeb technologies, so in essence: I can reply, like or repost tweets, receive mentions as comments here, and update my status, all from Decoding. This is really cool, since I can keep everything under my… https://decoding.io/?p=534 (twitter.com/_/status/1203668945770831872)
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@kisik21 Success! Thanks to #nextjs I’m able to use #React to render my posts without losing ability to curl them. #indieweb #JSDR It even looks pretty enough without JS; though Twemoji icons aren’t rendered. (twitter.com/_/status/1203669237946077184)
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[tantek] inspired by Andi Galpern's session yesterday, I stubbed this page to get started: https://indieweb.org/glossary
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[tantek] what is glossary
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Loqi Glossary is an alphabetical list of words relating to a specific subject, text, or dialect, with explanations; a brief dictionary https://indieweb.org/Glossary
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[tantek] wait what
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[tantek] no. deleting because just a dfn with zero indieweb connection
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jeremycherfas Uppercase?
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tantek.com deleted /Glossary "content was abstract dfn unrelated to indieweb, nothing more"
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[tantek] what is glossary
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Loqi glossary is a list of IndieWeb related terms and phrases with brief, broadly understandable definitions https://indieweb.org/glossary
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[tantek] that's the right one
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[tantek] not going to bother preserving creation history for non-indieweb stuff like that
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[tantek] (the Uppercase one)
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[jgmac1106] yeah after Andi session I want to work on /Getting_Started again...needs an update..gonna do it in between semesters
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[jgmac1106] and the elf om the shelf told me [chrisaldrich] is doing major rewrite of WordPress page
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GWG_ [jgmac1106]: Not the Mensch on the Bench?
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[jgmac1106] Is Huanakah Harry considered more a stereotype rather than a spoof of Western commercialization of Christmas?
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[jgmac1106] didn't realize a kid book with mensch on the bench? Good to recommend as children's lit? or considered stereotype?
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GWG_ Yes. It is a stereotype, but it got on Shark Tank
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GWG_ I recommend Herschel and the Chanukah goblins
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GWG_ Either way, chat topic
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GWG_ I will walk slowly
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GWG_ I took my time already
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[tantek] Hey everyone in SF, were opening doors at 9:30 as scheduled. Had hoped to get in early but just now catching a train
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[jgmac1106] oops thought it was chat...back to meta
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[jgmac1106] !tell jbove I got my Hacktober fest for all my #indieweb contributions in Octobober
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG_ At Mozilla... I arrived fashionably late for the door opening estimate
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[email096] At Mozilla too, if anyone else is here
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@desmondrivet In which I discover that I'm retro, not passé #indieweb: https://desmondrivet.com/2019/12/08/intro-to-indie-web (twitter.com/_/status/1203733452085956608)
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j12t Amnesty International: “How the business model of Google and Facebook threatens human rights.” https://www.amnesty.org/download/Documents/POL3014042019ENGLISH.PDF (via @dsearls on the Project VRM mailing list)
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@generativist Data Scientist, Computational Social Scientist, and Archivist Friends: Check out this wonderful resource from @schnarfed! A map of the @indieweb from 2017. https://indiemap.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1203742148115365888)
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tantek.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (+2) "next HWC, expand calendar" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /next-hwc (+0) "next!" (view diff)
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[tantek] getting started with a bunch of wiki updates until a hackday idea pops in my head
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tantek.com edited /2019/SF/vouchnext (+161) "add photo from AndiGalpern's tweet" (view diff)
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@vincentlistens ↩️ Bit of an edge case. I have an #indieweb site (architecture diagram here https://vincentp.me/articles/2019/09/07/12-00/ ) I store my webmentions as JSON. When running locally and no internet. I can’t check if webmentions are rendering correctly (they are all abs. Links so I rewrite) (twitter.com/_/status/1203756277668515840)
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@vincentlistens ↩️ Essentially because #indieweb content is reliant on URLS I don’t want to mess with the prod code. But locally it’s helpful to point it all at localhost for testing purposes. Especially if I inject content from my indie web server and it’s incorrect and I need to fix! (twitter.com/_/status/1203756718695448577)
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tantek.com edited /2019/SF/Schedule (+20) "link Keynote" (view diff)
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gRegorLove [tantek] for session photos do you think they should be near the top of the page or in a section after the notes?
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tantek.com edited /2019/SF/Photos (+142) "add more photos from uploads" (view diff)
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gRegorLove archiving copywriting session
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[tantek] thank you
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[tantek] I like to put them at the top
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[tantek] because people like images
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[tantek] we could do a 50% float right sort of thing
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[tantek] I try to take at least one photo per session for this reason
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[tantek] but often forget
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[tantek] I think I have now added all the photos I uploaded to which page they make the most sense on
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[tantek] margherita and vegetarian
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@kisik21 THIS IS IT. I’ve finished the h-entry React component. Looks beautiful, isn’t it? #React #nextjs #IndieWeb https://t.co/BeF7xTi0kX (twitter.com/_/status/1203785310410293249)
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@marinintim ↩️ 24 дня индивеба: логин https://marinintim.com/2019/indieweb/8/ (twitter.com/_/status/1203790229439746049)
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@t Thanks to a quick tip and advice from @adactio, I was able to improve my offline support here @IndieWebCamp SF in the last 15 minutes! I started with the script for listing offline cache available pages from https://clearleft.com/offline, stripped it down a ... https://tantek.com/t53y1 (twitter.com/_/status/1203790900524015616)
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@t Here @IndieWebCamp SF day 2 we’re about to start demos any minute! Video feed is live *now* https://zoom.us/j/4955358768 #indieweb #openweb https://tantek.com/t53y2 (twitter.com/_/status/1203793552687300608)
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[dougbeal] There is no screen view?
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[tantek] gRegorLove++ for taking demo notes!
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Loqi gRegorLove has 32 karma in this channel over the last year (63 in all channels)
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gRegorLove [tantek], couldn't see in yoru demo, did the offline page show a list of cached pages?
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GWG_ gRegorLove: Yes.
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[tantek] yes it did!
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GWG_ gRegorLove: Sorry, I recorded the screen separately.
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[tantek] and it came up automatically when I browsed to a page that was not cached
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gRegorLove np, just wondering
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gRegorLove awesome, I'll try it out
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aaronpk aw no screen sharing to the zoom meeting?
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aaronpk that's like 95% of the reason for using zoom for this
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[tantek] is that part of the how-to on /remote-participation ?
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[tantek] that's harder because the demo machine itself has to be logged into zoom
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aaronpk yes but not very well https://indieweb.org/remote_participation#Zoom
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[tantek] the demo chromebook cannot log into zoom
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aaronpk i'm pretty sure it can
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GWG_ [tantek]: It can.
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aaronpk https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/213298746-Getting-Started-On-Chrome-OS
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GWG_ That wasn't the issue exactly
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GWG_ Will write it up.
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[tantek] nevermind then
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aaronpk it's even easier if you're using just one machine. it only becomes logistically challenging to get people to install it on their own machines, tho we've had success doing that in the past too
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[tantek] sounds like we need a process improvement then with the chromebook for demos
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GWG_ aaronpk: Adding the chromebook to the Zoom is definitely possible, but there was an issue previously where no one wanted to present into the Zoom.
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GWG_ So I'm getting conflicting discussions we need to resolve
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aaronpk no one?
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aaronpk i am confused
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GWG_ aaronpk: Will discuss after.
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aaronpk ok. probably best to just write up notes for that event on the wiki page like the rest
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GWG_ aaronpk: Read the /remote_participation page
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GWG_ I wrote notes
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GWG_ I have more to write
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GWG_ For IWC NYC, Berlin2, and SF
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aaronpk oh already! wow
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GWG_ Need to add more for SF
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GWG_ Like the iPad to control the Zoom in the main room being locked in the AV closet
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aaronpk ooh
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[tantek] ^^^ only good photo from today’s IWC SF hackday that I know about