#meta 2020-02-22

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@jgmac1106
↩️ The Jekyll page may help as well too: https://indieweb.org/Jekyll webmentions allow me to reply to these tweets from my website. I dig it. Lotta fun. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/28zhnn)
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[yo]
Missed my flight so I won't see y'all until tomorrow at like 2:30 😭
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[jgmac1106]
sorry jacky...
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@jgmac1106
After a successful launch of our #OER Ghana project at @IndieWebCamp Navrongo decided to get an early start on some weekend hack goals for @IndieWebCamp Austin by doing a rough draft of our first learning module: https://goifnetwork.glitch.me/module1.html (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1UZyaf)
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@jgmac1106
↩️ @sadike25 @masssly @zuzage @xolotl and I super excited to have our next #IndieWeb meetup during the @goifoundaion call and get folks cranking away on the fun challenges we have planned. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/5uYTE)
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jacky
[jgmac1106]: no biggie!
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jacky
I live like 25 minutes from the airport so it was a smooth ride back and forth
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[tantek]
jacky 😢 safe travels tomorrow and see you in the afternoon! 🤗
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@wentale
↩️ @jgmac1106 Nice work @Sadike25 and @jgmac1106 hope it kicks off nicely. #Indieweb
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@gRegorLove
What a small indieweb. I'm in Austin for IndieWebCamp and another attendee, Ryan, is from San Diego and lives in my neighborhood. Another person for the SD meetups!
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[jgmac1106]
jacky, the only person I know who would be on chrisaldrich's u-missed-flight-of post kind
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[chrisaldrich]
Working on it now... what an itch! 😉
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jacky
lmfao
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Loqi
gRegorLove: aaronpk left you a message 1 day, 23 hours ago: I fixed the og:image issue on events.indieweb.org!
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Loqi
[gRegor Morrill] What a small indieweb. I'm in Austin for IndieWebCamp and another attendee, Brian, is from San Diego and lives in my neighborhood. Another person for the SD meetups! Edit: fixed name and URL, oops!
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gRegorLove
aaronpk++ thanks!
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Loqi
aaronpk has 58 karma in this channel over the last year (203 in all channels)
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gRegorLove
Brian runs pine.blog
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gregorlove.com
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gRegorLove
I added 5 minutes between sessions there, which makes the last one short. If it works do do scheduling before lunch we'll have more time.
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gRegorLove
I think that's what we did last year
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[chrisaldrich]
!tell chrisaldrich to add his example to /Untappd
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106]
!tell chrisaldrich we have done a ton of work with untappd and Bridgy I think, there maybe an open issue
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@mxbck
↩️ In no particular order: Data Viz Web Components Algorithmic Layouts Getting People to actually use Design Systems JAMStack Stuff Browser Internal Feature Deep Dive IndieWeb "Personal Hobbies"
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aaronparecki.com
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GWG
Is there a link for the main room?
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aaronpk
Main room will be on twitch
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aaronpk
linked from the main Austin wiki page
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tantek.com
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[tantek]
oh hey meta, aaronpk brought up one of our long running challenges last night, which is the naming of "day 2"
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[tantek]
problem: "hack day" (or many of the variants, maker day, etc.) sounds coding / developer focused, almost to the exclusion of folks who don't necessarily consider themselves coders of developers
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[tantek]
aaronpk suggested "demo day", however I pushed back on that due to 1. it being the wrong focus (the focus is to work on *something* on your website / the community site, demoing that is a side-effect), and 2. "demo" is associated with slick product demos, e.g. TechCrunch demos, the Demo conference itself, where startups are pitching etc., and that's absolutely not the point of IndieWebCamp
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[tantek]
I suggested considering "project day", inspired by the definition in the100dayproject.com, which is very much focused on creativity, not even necessarily online, and has a good summary with "Do something quick, creative, and do it without fear."
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[tantek]
so what do y'all think?
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[tantek]
additional suggestions welcome!
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gRegorLove
I definitely like a noun over a verb, I think that's why "create day" still sounded a bit odd to me
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gRegorLove
I like project day
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GWG
I like project day as well
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sknebel
project day sounds good
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@t
Good morning #Austin! Doors open @IndieWebCamp Austin @CapitalFactory! @aaronpk is setting up the video, folks are grabbing breakfast tacos, coffee, etc. Tickets sold out but we made room for 10 more! Grab one and come by! https://2020.indieweb.org/austin https://tantek.com/t55E1
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GWG
Pass the breakfast tacos please
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@t
↩️ here for @IndieWebCamp Austin @CapitalFactory! Come join us! https://2020.indieweb.org/austin Kickoff at 10:00, then amazing keynotes, personal site intros, BarCamp sessions! https://tantek.com/t55E2
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gRegorLove
passes GWG a breakfast taco
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GWG
gRegorLove: My arms aren't that long.
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GWG
I have Twitch set up whenever there is something to see
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[jeremycherfas]
I like “do day”.
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GWG
[jeremycherfas]: I think do day is too vague. Project sounds more focused to me
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[jeremycherfas]
You’re a focussed kind of person; I was hoping to be less focused to address [tantek] concerns about avoiding any kind of devspeak.
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aaronpk
The problem with "project day" is then how do you say "this is what my project day project is going to be" lol
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GWG
[jeremycherfas]: I call cleaning my counter a project
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aaronpk
I might start trying to say "day 2 project" for that instead
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gRegorLove
Cleaning your web counter?
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aaronpk
twitch stream is up
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GWG
I'm in
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GWG
The most excitement of my day
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[jgmac1106]
an FYI you have to dig to find: https://indieweb.org/2020/Austin
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[jgmac1106]
nvm found it on event page at bottomn
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@jgmac1106
Yes: I may not have breakfast tacos but my partner made chocolate croissant casserole to get me started to Remote in Austin #IndieWeb: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2020/02/22/yes-i-may-not-have-breakfast-tacos-but-my-partner
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@t
Live video stream @IndieWebCamp Austin is up! https://www.twitch.tv/indieweb Tune in, we’re starting with organizer @manton2, followed by keynotes by Natalie, Pace, and @Aaronpk! https://www.manton.org/2020/02/10/announcing-the-indiewebcamp.html #indieweb #openweb #takebackyourweb https://tantek.com/t55E3
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[jgmac1106]
I have no problem pushing the word "hack" into the more general populous. K12 students, at least in the US, have been taught recently hacking is good in all things and different from computer crime
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[jgmac1106]
design studio is the word I use with my students if I am not saying hack
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@jgmac1106
A Remix #poetryport gift for #IndieWeb Community gathering at @IndieWebCamp Austin for all you do, and as areminder me skipping Karoke is gift to world.: https://jgregorymcverry.com/oldblogcode
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[jgmac1106]
gwg you getting that high pitch noise?
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GWG
aaronpk: Video but no audio
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[jgmac1106]
have some audio
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GWG
I have none of the Fire stick I'm using
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aaronpk
i see audio output on this thing
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GWG
Nothing on my computer either
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GWG
I tried going there
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[jgmac1106]
I hear audio...but it is over a horrible ringing sound, like high pitch feedback
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aaronpk
oh i hear the little buzz thats' weird
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GWG
I'll check my phone as well
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GWG
But no audio for me on 2 devices
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[jgmac1106]
like a microphone next to speaker kinda tinge
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aaronpk
that's probably what it is
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[jgmac1106]
aaronpk if you can increase the audio input level it is low
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aaronpk
working on it
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[chrisaldrich]
I hear the buzz too... it just dropped a few seconds ago, but so did manton
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Loqi
[chrisaldrich]: [jgmac1106] left you a message 4 hours, 46 minutes ago: we have done a ton of work with untappd and Bridgy I think, there maybe an open issue
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Loqi
[chrisaldrich]: [chrisaldrich] left you a message 6 hours, 58 minutes ago: to add his example to /Untappd
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[jgmac1106]
wooow way better now, something just happened
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[chrisaldrich]
woah, that seemed to work? and then nothing.
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[jgmac1106]
yeah aaron
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[chrisaldrich]
stop! that works!
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aaronpk
it's not great
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[jgmac1106]
1000X times better
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[chrisaldrich]
That's 200% better than before.
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[jgmac1106]
I am nicer than Chris by a factor of five, it is now proven
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GWG
Audio just kicked in. But it is low
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[chrisaldrich]
Make sure Manton mentions the IndieWeb chat so that newbies know it exists as a backchannel and for questions throughout the day. 🙂
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[tantek]
he did earlier, the chat, the wiki, and etherpard
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Loqi
manton has 16 karma in this channel over the last year (56 in all channels)
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[chrisaldrich]
I caught a few of them, just wanted to make sure. Thanks tantek.
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[jgmac1106]
macgenie++
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Loqi
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[jgmac1106]
audio is now almost perfect
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GWG
Much better
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aaronpk
much better
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@jgmac1106
Natalie Hester, https://nataliekayh.micro.blog/ giving the opening keynote at @IndieWebCamp Austin on Sharing Gratitude https://t.co/IOwyIpcKaX
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aaronpk
are you hearing it drop out occasionally?
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@jgmac1106
↩️ Silo baby here myself, prodigy > AOL > MySpace > My Site >facebook for a hot minute > back to my site #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/2ffErt)
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@jgmac1106
↩️ Research does show that social media is beneficial to young women in mental health groups at times of crisis, but does cause health issues and anxiety do to adds and groups. #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/28ZPrM)
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@jgmac1106
↩️ "I realized I wasn't part of a community that shared my values" Go UT Austin!! Go #OER, and let's fund some #IndieWeb grants!!! Let's root the #IndieWeb in the local libraries (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/28uXEM)
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@macgenie
Austin IndieWebCamp is underway with a welcome from @mantonsblog, and Natalie Hester talking about “Sharing Gratitude.” You can watch the livestream and enjoy our day vicariously. https://www.twitch.tv/indieweb
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://0io.eu/spotify-backup/" to the "See Also" section of /Spotify https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=68548&oldid=68356
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GWG
I recognize gRegorLove's head
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gRegorLove
thanks? XD
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GWG
gRegorLove: It was just a shoutout
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gRegorLove
Appreciated. :wave:
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GWG
The raised voice did overwhelm the audio for a bit
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aaronpk
oh my gosh i don't know which end that's happening on
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GWG
Love the enthusiasm though
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GWG
Assuming it is when the microphone is movec
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[tantek]
GWG, maybe side-commentary in here (Lycos)? Let's use the main channel for directly about the keynotes - feel free to help take notes!
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@nertzy
@nataliekayh at IndieWebCamp 2020 Austin talking about people coming over to http://micro.blog: “It’s not the dark side, it’s the light side”
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GWG
[tantek]: Will do.
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GWG
I always defer if someone in the room is narrating because of the time delay
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[tantek]
GWG, good point, the latency makes it harder
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@jgmac1106
Watching http://pacesmith.com/ deliver @IndieWebCamp Austin keynote: https://www.twitch.tv/indieweb "we never build the same thing twice, nobody gets betrayed, no more sexual predators, no more marketing, no more bad science" (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/WHFG8)
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GWG
aaronpk: Arms up seems to trigger the audio. Might just be a coincidence
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GWG
I think when arms go up, the microphone shifts
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aaronpk
i have a backup recorder on the podium but she's walking around so much i'm not sure that will turn out any good either, sorry!
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@jgmac1106
↩️ Already have the academic journal for indietrusttweb: https://samizdat.glitch.me/ (CW for those with photosensitivity or a general aversion to bright flashy things) #indieweb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1FKeCT)
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[chrisaldrich]
The sound distortion appears to be any time she's raising her arms up (and likely causing issues with the microphone attachment).
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GWG
[chrisaldrich]: That's my theory
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GWG
I'm typing in from the future as well. 8 hours in the future, to be precise.
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GWG
I kid though
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[jgmac1106]
perfect sound
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GWG
That works. But aaronpk keeps his voice pretty level naturally.
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@t
Great first #IndieWebCamp Austin keynote by Natalie on the upsides and downsides of #socialmedia, how she started her #IndieWeb Gratitude Joural @microdotblog, did #DeleteFacebook, yet still posts @Instagram, though with a much more limited circle. https://tantek.com/t55E4
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[jgmac1106]
aaronpk keeps me pretty level naturally
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#IndieWebCamp Austin keynote by Pace from the future where: - We never build the same thing twice - Nobody gets betrayed - No more sexual predators - No more marketing - No more bad science - No more capitalism & it’s all built on #IndieWeb technologies! https://tantek.com/t55E5
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[tantek]
kind of amazed I fit that whole slide into a tweet
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GWG
Always nice to see Jean.
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GWG
[chrisaldrich]: Should I type my intro in chat too, you think?
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[chrisaldrich]
I pre-typed mine and cut and pasted during the live person switch....
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[chrisaldrich]
You should definitely do a remote demo GWG.
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GWG
Give me a moment
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[chrisaldrich]
Who else is remoting in today?
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Loqi
I agree
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Pace
sorry my wild arm waving overwhelmed the audio earlier. Add it to the list of times my wild arm waving has caused problems...
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GWG
Pace: By my observations, when you raised your arms, the microphone hit your clothes, and that caused the muffling.
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@t
As of yesterday: https://tantek.com/2020/052/t1/austin-building-pyramid-shape I’m over halfway thru my 100 days projects: * take a positive photo * post something positive sometimes posted the day after. More #100days projects: https://indieweb.org/100_days inspired http://the100dayproject.com! https://tantek.com/t55E6
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aaronpk
I should have given you the little clippy mic instead of the big one sorry!
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GWG
I posted my intro if someone wants to read it for me
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GWG
I miss everyone.
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Loqi
misses everyone too
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@t
As of yesterday: https://tantek.com/2020/052/t1/austin-building-pyramid-shape I’m over halfway thru my 100 days projects: * take a positive photo * post something positive sometimes posted the day after. More #100days projects: https://indieweb.org/100_days inspired by http://the100dayproject.com https://tantek.com/t55E6
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Loqi
Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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[tantek]
[jgmac1106] help ^ ?
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@jgmac1106
Here is my @indiewebcamp Austin demo: https://jgregorymcverry.com/videos/austin2020demo.mp4 I shopw off new layouts for my poetry. The #clmooc crew giving out poems all month, if you are in Austin request one today: https://clmooc.com/come-sail-into-the-poetry-port/ (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/D0CSJ)
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aaronpk
Good mic batteries died, switching to camera mic
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GWG
I'll see about updating the grid from here
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GWG
[tantek]: Go eat. I've got this
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GWG
The combined name for the second session in the Main Room is what?
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Loqi
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gRegorLove
I just updated the timeslots
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GWG
gRegorLove: Can you clarify the combined session in the second slot?
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GWG
And who has been editing while I've been?
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GWG
We have a conflict
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gRegorLove
Those were combined, list both I guess
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GWG
Okay
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GWG
I'll start over on row 3
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gRegorLove
sorry about that. Thanks again for wiki updating!
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GWG
Still confused re hashtag for the combined session, but I'll make up a combined one
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GWG
Will there by remoting into two out of three rooms?
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aaronpk
looks like most of the sessions ended up in just two rooms so I have the Zoom set up in both
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GWG
aaronpk: We have one session then without?
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GWG
Shame it's read posts
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aaronpk
alright got the zooms sorted out and updated the links on the schedule grid
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GWG
aaronpk: Think I could talk someone into doing the third Zoom for the Read session on a laptop
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aaronpk
I guess that would be up to gregor
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GWG
!tell gregorLove Up for recording your session using your laptop?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG
Hard decisions today
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GWG
Running behind?
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GWG
The Trustweb room isn't on, the other room seems to bne
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aaronpk
`both should be on now
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GWG
They are.
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GWG
Took a moment
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[jgmac1106]
Still at sportsball. Hope to hop in rooms once home
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[yo]
Lol not landing until like 8 PM
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[yo]
Going to enjoy tomorrow a lot
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aaronpk
aw man we're missing you here!
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[jgmac1106]
What is troll?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "troll" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "troll is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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@steveivy
Obviously I need to add media uploading to my syndication code #indieweb #goldfrog http://monkinetic.blog/2020/02/22/txt-fd6090d (monkinetic txt-3d9af9f)
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@jgmac1106
@jessifer I was discussing your acahole Tweet during an #IndieWeb session. Do you mind if we add it to the wiki or would you like me to delete tweet reference: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/whosincharge (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/JqBh)
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[jgmac1106]
darn change in schedule, need to go drop my son off
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[jgmac1106]
I will be back, happy to help on themes tomorrow
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loqi.me
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GWG
gRegorLove: Are you going to stream your session?
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gRegorLove
I can, I think
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Loqi
gRegorLove: GWG left you a message 2 hours, 7 minutes ago: Up for recording your session using your laptop?
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gRegorLove: I am sure you can get the third room credentials
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gRegorLove
I think aaronpk has that room set up
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aaronpk
I don't have anything up in johnny five
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aaronpk
you can use the yellow zoom room on your laptop
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GWG
I have been lurking in the sessions. Just haven't said much
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gRegorLove
Do you want to Zoom in the session, GWG?
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GWG
gRegorLove: Yes
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GWG
I may even say something
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gRegorLove
Cool. I presume Zoom handles the recording. I don't have anything to record with otherwise
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aaronpk
yeah it's set to auto record
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GWG
gRegorLove: It does
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gRegorLove: Are you going to do the extra room?
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GWG
If you want, I can set up the room from here and you can just join
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gRegorLove
Sounds good I don't know the logins
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gRegorLove: Stand by
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GWG
Room is set up
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aaronpk
I think we need more than 5 minutes between sessions next time :)
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GWG
Recording will start when you join.
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[tantek]
Thought we had standardized on 10 min between sessions. Or was that only for Summit?
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aaronpk
i don't know, i didn't make the schedule grid here
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aaronpk
checks the "how to run an indiewebcamp" page
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aaronpk
what is how to run an indiewebcamp?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "how to run an indiewebcamp" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "how to run an indiewebcamp is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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aaronpk
how to run an indiewebcamp is /IndieWebCamp_Organizing
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[tantek]
also people who have never proposed a session get to propose one first
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aaronpk
hm this all seems to be missing from this page
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Loqi
[Greg McVerry] Adding graffiti to my metaphors to avoid. Wbile I think people wouldn't deface discourse online if they had to shout from their door step graffiti played too central a role in hip hop culture and thus faced too much backlash to be used. #literacies
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Does anyone in the @djangoproject community has experience with setting up webmentions? I really want to integrate Twitter's likes and comments on my website using #bridgy but just can't get it to work. Thanks a ton in advance! #indieweb #bridgy #webmention #django
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It’s been a fun afternoon of discussions at IndieWebCamp 2020 Austin today. I just led a breakout discussion about what we can do to reclaim our personal data from social media silos #reclaimyourweb
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