#meta 2020-02-23

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@hanchicago You learn something new every day. I actually didn't do this today, like I thought I did. https://indieweb.org/snitch_tagging (twitter.com/_/status/1231390243401687041)
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boffosocko.com edited /read (+75) "Camp sessions section; 2020/Austin" (view diff)
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@ChrisAldrich Simultaneously saving journalism and social media #IndieWeb #Journalism https://boffosocko.com/2020/02/22/simultaneously-saving-journalism-and-social-media/ (twitter.com/_/status/1231426601180712961)
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boffosocko.com edited /2020/Austin/newaffordability (+368) "hNews, geo & dateline; journalism and social media" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /2020/Austin/mfmicro (+17) "/* See Also */ micro.blog" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /Micro.blog (+73) "/* Microformats in Themes */ IWC-Austin session 2020" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /2020/Austin/photos (+36) "cleaned up some markup, typos, links; see also" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /2020/Austin/fromflowtostock (+193) "links, clean up formatting of page" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com created /2020/Austin/intro-demos (+715) "start archiving from chat" (view diff)
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@emilsayahi Finally getting my first renders from WDHAN, the static web generator I'm building on C# for use in IndieWeb. I've still got a few kinks to work out, but this may someday rival @jekyllrb in what it's capable of (thinking Git-based Wikipedia clone?) https://madebyemil.github.io/wdhan-basic/ (twitter.com/_/status/1231468795358740480)
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@belong_io Twitch https://ift.tt/2v9LiQv Live video stream IndieWebCamp Austin is up! Tune in, we’re starting with organizer manton2, followed by keyn... » (twitter.com/_/status/1231502515620982786)
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loqi.me created /Unitive (+201) "prompted by [LewisCowles] and dfn added by [LewisCowles]" (view diff)
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www.lewiscowles.co.uk edited /Unitive (+294) (view diff)
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vanderven.se martijn edited /OpenPGP (+937) "/* May not help email security */ Note on bow PGP cannot save you from the underlying problems of email security" (view diff)
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[LewisCowles] > So, for example, it recently turned out to be possible for eavesdroppers to decrypt messages without a key, simply by tampering with encrypted messages.
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[LewisCowles] I'd like to see a citation for that. Messing with an email and making it garbage should not predicate people lose their minds and send the next one unencrypted, which seems to be what they rail about further on
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@bradenslen In case you missed it: the old Independent Web is still alive and kicking. #indieweb #discovery #independentweb https://indieseek.xyz/2020/02/22/weeklyish-summary-indieseek-xyz-22-february-2020/ (twitter.com/_/status/1231562709310857216)
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@dogtrax ↩️ @jgmac1106 @indiewebcamp I'll be curious to see how your poetry page ends up .... Good luck! (twitter.com/_/status/1231578783263678464)
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[jeremycherfas] What is Unitive
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Loqi unitive or unitive web is an alternative movement to Indieweb, with a broader remit to re-organise the entire internet from large key-providers using something they call "Spontaneous order" https://indieweb.org/Unitive
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@ticseducacao #jabá Sobre manter seu conteúdo por muitos anos na web: http://sfl.pro.br/blogs/index.php/sergio-blog/indieweb-configurando-uma-web-de-longa-duracao (twitter.com/_/status/1231585799667363840)
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www.jeremycherfas.net edited /email-hosting (+19) "/* Paid */ Adding me as user" (view diff)
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www.jeremycherfas.net edited /FastMail (+110) "/* Issues */ No issues with spam for me." (view diff)
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sknebel hm, email hosting vs email providers = support custom domains? I feel like that split should be reflected somewhere
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www.jeremycherfas.net edited /Bise (+220) "Brief summary of features" (view diff)
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[jeremycherfas] Good point sknebel
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Zegnat [LewisCowles]: I am unsure which problem they are referring to. Maybe https://efail.de/?
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Zegnat Which is a lot like adding something to the email body, mailing it to someone you think has access to the plaintext, and hoping for the best
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Zegnat Had not seen that Unitive project yet. Couldn’t make it through the YouTube video at all. Felt a lot like “this is what the web will look like a decade from now if we do all this” rather than an actual presentation of tech
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Loqi [Jamie Tanna] The IndieWeb Movement: Owning Your Data and Being the Change You Want to See in the Web
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gregorlove.com edited /2020/Austin/intro-demos (+1842) "finish archiving" (view diff)
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@sonicrocketman #IndieWebCamp Day 2! (twitter.com/_/status/1231607428103278593)
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[LewisCowles] [Zegnat] TBH I feel much the same after watching the whole thing and mulling it over as I've continued my day.
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (+106) "/* improve photo posts */ rethink improve photo permalinks and deprioritize compared to other photo posts items" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /how (+234) "When Adversarial Interoperability Burrowed Under the Gatekeepers' Fortresses by Cory Doctorow" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (+743) "/* improve photo posts */ prioritize mobile friendly recent photos box, additional brainstorming" (view diff)
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jacky.wtf uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:Screenshot 20200222 202241 1.png]]" https://indieweb.org/File:Screenshot_20200222_202241_1.png"
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (+52) "/* mobile recent articles box */ articles only stream page as well" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /how (+22) "see also: getting started" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] is there a place on the wiki where you set your project day goals? Do I put them on the demo page or do we not track those on day two?
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (-1) "prioritize recent photos, recent articles" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] [manton] gRegorLove I don's see the demo time scheduled on: https://indieweb.org/2020/Austin/Schedule I wanted to set a count down. What time are you doing them?
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gRegorLove [jgmac1106], 16:00. I'll update
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[jgmac1106] !calc 60 x 4.5
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Loqi 270
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gregorlove.com edited /2020/Austin/Schedule (+15) "/* Sunday February 23 2020 */ project day, demo times" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] 270 minutes until Austin demo
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2020-02-23 5:01pm GMT-0500 (#6720)
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[tantek] [LewisCowles] I can't be bothered to write up a critical vaporware definition of The Unitive Web, so I'm going to delete /Unitive because one rando YouTube video and a skeleton W3C CG does not even deserve the attention of a criticism
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tantek.com deleted /Unitive "one rando YouTube video and a skeleton W3C CG does not even deserve the attention"
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[tantek] ok now with that out of the way, going to try to focus on actually making something at IWC Austin project day
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[jgmac1106] Who was it yesterday that proposed a session community? I am always happy to hack on community goals as well as personal sites, swap stories and such, taking a break for a bit, it is way to nice a February day to star just at a screen. I miss Winter
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[jgmac1106] but if anyone wanted to chat at any point in the day ping me
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nertzy.com edited /2020/Austin/reclaimyourweb (+11) "/* Participants */" (view diff)
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@teleclimber ↩️ I haven't looked specifically at AP for static sites but I imagine it's a no-go. Also, it has thick layer of unnecessary complexity because it is a federated protocol. You might find something more appropriate over at https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started Or, you know, RSS still works. (twitter.com/_/status/1231640839241158656)
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[chrisaldrich] Are we still maintaining the redirect at https://indieweb.org/next-hwc ? How might we continue to do so? Point it to appropriate upcoming events on meetable? Is there a way to maintain the impressive calendar/list of events on the HWC page that provides some solid social evidence of an ongoing concern?
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tbbrown i think some people are going to fareground for lunch https://www.google.com/maps/place/Fareground/@30.2635474,-97.7457325,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x8644b507c51dfe5f:0xce4e2c0e58c816bf!8m2!3d30.2635428!4d-97.7435385
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aaronpk https://events.indieweb.org/archive shows the full list of past events
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aaronpk i think https://indieweb.org/next-hwc is made obsolete by https://events.indieweb.org
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aaronpk as in, the new events home page is a better place to see what's coming up next than that wiki page
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aaronpk the archive view on the wiki is kind of fun, we could still maintain that with links to the events.indieweb.org pages
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[chrisaldrich] so we should have the /next-hwc redirect to the events page as most appropriate? or to https://events.indieweb.org/tag/hwc?
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aaronpk i think just https://events.indieweb.org/tag/hwc
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aaronpk there's no reason to be more specific than that IMO
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[chrisaldrich] tougher question, is there an easy way to do a redirect of a wiki page to an off-wiki page? The typical wiki syntax doesn't look like it will work...
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aaronpk no but i can do it on the server
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[chrisaldrich] aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 59 karma in this channel over the last year (201 in all channels)
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aaronpk done
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sknebel I could have Kaja spew out a template with the date of the next HWC for the sidebar?
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aaronpk oh that'd be great
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sknebel (also the 2019 gift calendar could maybe removed from the sidebar)
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sknebel (I can't edit the sidebar)
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aaronpk oh yea ha
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aaronpk i don't really understand mediawiki permissions lol
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aaronpk hm can i include templates in the sidebar?
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aaronparecki.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (-51) "drop 2019 gift calendar" (view diff)
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sknebel I'd hope so. although that of course allows injection from elsewhere. or you grant me and Kaja permissions and it'll write directly to it
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aaronparecki.com created /Template:next-hwc (+51) "stub template, plz automate this Kaja :-)" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (-46) "attempt to use a template in the sidebar" (view diff)
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aaronpk darn looks like not
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aaronpk maybe there's a setting tho
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aaronpk oh i figured it out
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aaronpk the sidebar code still needs both parts, but either one can be a template
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aaronpk so you can update https://indieweb.org/Template:next-hwc to change the text in the sidebar. the URL in the sidebar is fixed to https://events.indieweb.org/tag/hwc tho
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sknebel ok
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@nertzy Today at IndieWebCamp 2020 Austin I’m figuring out what my personal site https://nertzy.com has on it and running it through https://indiewebify.me to get some basics like h-card set up. After that, I’ll be looking into social reader apps. http://microformats.org/wiki/h-card (twitter.com/_/status/1231694806713294849)
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@mantonsblog IndieWebCamp Austin day 2 is winding down. I wrapped up my project to show replies on my blog posts and I’ll be demoing it to the group soon, with a blog post to follow later this week. Looking forward to seeing what other folks worked on! (twitter.com/_/status/1231699737109286913)
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@jgmac1106 @dogtrax getting closer for my @Indiewebcamp Austin project, turns out like most things in my life a missing closing tag. Closure so hard to find, gotta take a break to cook, but time ticking 1 hour till demos (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/15z4Cq) (twitter.com/_/status/1231700573482815491)
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Loqi Austin demo
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Loqi Countdown set by [jgmac1106] on 2020-02-23 at 12:31pm GMT-0500
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@tomwiththeweath Live stream of IndieWebCamp Austin 2020 demos: https://indieweb.live/ (twitter.com/_/status/1231703556832538624)
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[jgmac1106] oops might have been off by a bit
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@ChrisAldrich The Who, What, Why, How, When, Where of #IndieWeb (My IndieWebCamp Austin 2020 Project) https://boffosocko.com/2020/02/23/my-indiewebcamp-austin-2020-project-the-who-what-why-how-when-where-of-indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/1231716144702033921)
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@nertzy It has been great catching up with my former coworker Joe Masilotti who happened to come to IndieWebCamp 2020 Austin with me! https://masilotti.com (twitter.com/_/status/1231716247554928641)
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@joemasilotti Spent the weekend learning about #indieweb and meeting a bunch of awesome people at IndieWebCamp Austin! Today I added v1 of listing webmentions on my site. https://masilotti.com/webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/1231725298992979968)
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@joemasilotti Spent the weekend learning about #indieweb and meeting a bunch of awesome people at @indiewebcamp Austin! Today I added v1 of listing webmentions on my site. https://masilotti.com/webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/1231728039723184128)