#meta 2020-03-20

2020-03-20 UTC
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[chrisaldrich] with respect to Appointly, Calendly, WhenWorks, it looks like the closest thing on the wiki already is /communication
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[chrisaldrich] I could see some overlap of /audience for those who may make portions of their calendar available to varying degrees.
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[tantek] it's more than comms, it's a specific simplification of booking of time between two people, that's a very compelling use-case for all sorts of reasons!
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@mrkrndvs @ChrisAldrich provides a series of posts/Tweets explaining how the PressEdConf, which focuses on WordPress, could be run using WordPress #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1240824187620487169)
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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gRegorLove re: appointly, "group scheduling" maybe?
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[tantek] it's more person-centric than that
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[tantek] Doodle is sort of group scheduling
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gRegorLove [tantek], friendly reminder to upload the group photo from the west coast meetup
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[tantek] hmm I saw some posted in one of these channels
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[tantek] ok I picked the best I found out of the bunch
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boffosocko.com deleted /Hobbsy.com "content was: "Hello", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Hobbsy.com|Hobbsy.com]]" ([[User talk:Hobbsy.com|talk]]) - duplicate of canonical https://indieweb.org/User:Hobbsy.com"
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@ushuz_ #TIL Webmention 看起来不错 https://indieweb.org/Webmention (twitter.com/_/status/1240947036997816320)
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[jgmac1106] appointments
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[jgmac1106] ...and wow would I love a solution right now from my websites given we went fully remote and we need to do advising and office hours....
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[Sadik_Shahadu] gwg can you set me up with a Zoom room from 10am-11am utc on Saturday?
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sknebel you should IMHO ask aaronpk to get the credentials yourself
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sknebel since you're doing things regularly
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Loqi agreed.
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GWG [Sadik_Shahadu]: Try asking aaronpk for credentials, if not, I'll do it
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[jgmac1106] Sadik_Shahadu++
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Loqi Sadik_Shahadu has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (6 in all channels)
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[jgmac1106] good luck on Saturday...if you need to add any pages to the goif site with training documents we can do that today
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sknebel (just to be clear, since I'm not sure I got the tone right, my remark wasn't intended as criticism of asking, just pointing out that as a regular organizer it shouldn't be a problem to give you access and make it easier in the long run)
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[jgmac1106] sadik as an FYI aaronpk is utc-8 I think so will be sleeping
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GWG [jgmac1106]: He gets up early though.
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[jgmac1106] and hopefully hangs with indiecat and not us, first thing, we will get you set sadik
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[jgmac1106] it has been interesting for us, participants are very hesitant to install apps on mobile devices
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[jgmac1106] WhatsApp and Google Hangouts the dominant modes of communication
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[jgmac1106] Zoom at least can be accessed with just a link
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@neuralmarket Cutting the cord with disqus, google analytics, and other crap. Going full blow IndieWeb and Webmentions. It's a bit hard with a static blog but it can work. (twitter.com/_/status/1240971744145481728)
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@phpessex Thanks to Lewis Cowles for his talk on "A Gentle Introduction to Indieweb" we hope everyone who joined remotely enjoyed! Details of next months Meetup will be live in the coming weeks! webdevelopers #esxdev (kindly sponsored by @postmarkapp @enovatedesign) (twitter.com/_/status/1240971871480315904)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html
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boffosocko.com edited /reader (+461) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ fraidycat (orphaned page)" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html
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tbbrown an iwc austin attendee asked me about ordering an indieweb t-shirt. is there an online order form? (i only could find an eu one)
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sknebel hm, indeed, the US link is expired
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sknebel I think aaronpk set those up?
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sknebel and might also still have some at hand he can mail out
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tbbrown thanks! i'll see if i can follow up with him
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aaronpk I think the printer we use started doing no-minimum print on demand, but i do also have some here
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tbbrown oh cool. he is looking for a size M
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sknebel what is swag?
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Loqi swag is indieweb apparel and accessories you can purchase https://indieweb.org/swag
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sknebel aaronpk: ^^^ there are teespring US and EU links, but the US one is dead
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html
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tbbrown aaronpk: should i have him send you an email?
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aaronpk one sec, let me either figure out teespring or make an order form
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tbbrown ok. thank you!
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[KevinMarks] [tantek] - how about OFU for One File Utility for the single file js libraries that augment a site? Like UFO backwards
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[jgmac1106] aaronpk if you didn;t get a chance to get the credentials to [Sadik_Shahadu] feel free to share with me and I can make their room for tommorow
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[KevinMarks] Only 10 previous acronyms and its an island in Samoa
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[tantek] hmm not really catchy. can you figure out a way to put T in front?
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html
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[tantek] do we have recordings of the IWC London keynotes?
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html
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[tantek] Anyone know craigburgess?
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[tantek] jamietanna, gRegorLove, might want to update your upcoming HWCs here https://events.indieweb.org/tag/hwc to note the likelihood of being online only
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jamietanna[m] Tantek yes I know Craig
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jamietanna[m] (via twitter)
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[tantek] jamietanna[m] can you reach out to him to update https://events.indieweb.org/2020/03/homebrew-website-club-barnsley-hGOqaDqcyIPP to be online?
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aaronpk okay how is the events site sending webmentions to itself
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jamietanna[m] He's definitely looking into how to do it, but yeah I'll ask
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jamietanna[m] Aaronpk is someone maybe sending it themselves?
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[tantek] lol aaronpk
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[tantek] at least update the event ASAP to cancel the in-person part
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aaronpk someone else must be, but who and how?
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[tantek] see if we can get those HWC updates into the newsletter (jamietanna[m], gRegorLove)
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jamietanna[m] I've updated mine tantek!
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jamietanna[m] Ooh TIL you can buy the IWC tshirts, I thought you had to run one to get it - I was considering running one just to get one 😂
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[tantek] thank you jamietanna++
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Loqi jamietanna has 8 karma in this channel over the last year (30 in all channels)
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@JamieTanna ↩️ Np! Would you mind updating https://events.indieweb.org/2020/03/homebrew-website-club-barnsley-hGOqaDqcyIPP to at least say it's going to be Online? See https://events.indieweb.org/2020/03/online-homebrew-website-club-london-DNdVXaId2jig for an example (https://www.jvt.me/mf2/2020/03/1z46m/) (twitter.com/_/status/1241102715515736064)
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calumryan.com edited /2020/London/Schedule (+150) "/* Saturday */ Add videos so far" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html
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[KevinMarks] Could Barnsley and London both be online in one stream? They're the same time
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html
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jamietanna[m] Aaronpk any idea why we weren't able to add my photos from https://events.indieweb.org/2020/03/online-homebrew-website-club-nottingham-anniversary-edition--Rcujt5SykHv1#photos automagically via Loqi? I've added it manually for now at least
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aaronpk i haven't been able to look into it yet
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@brettevans ↩️ The indieweb was social with blogrolls and link feeds. Articles spread across networks of authors with repsonse posts, etc. RSS was just the transmission medium. (twitter.com/_/status/1241116906326593536)
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[KevinMarks] What is a social reader?
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Loqi A social reader is a modern interactive reader that allows you to directly respond to posts (with a like, comment, etc) right there inline with posts as you read them (as people do in social media), in contrast to legacy feed readers which were one-way read-only experiences and provided no mechanisms to interact with or respond to posts https://indieweb.org/social_reader
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@kevinmarks ↩️ @brettevans @starsandrobots We're trying to rebuild that model without the SPOF. https://indieweb.org/social_reader (twitter.com/_/status/1241119267266977792)
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-03-20.html https://t.co/k7bHCnZGNW (twitter.com/_/status/1241126135473168384)
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@aaronpk all the #IndieWeb meetups went online this week! so cool! Thanks @zoom_us! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1241126135473168384 (twitter.com/_/status/1241126885041377280)
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aaronpk Zoom << https://blog.zoom.us/wordpress/2020/03/20/keep-the-party-crashers-from-crashing-your-zoom-event/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://blog.zoom.us/wordpress/2020/03/20/keep-the-party-crashers-from-crashing-your-zoom-event/" to a new "See Also" section of /Zoom https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=69189&oldid=69166
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loqi.me edited /Zoom (+116) "aaronpk added "https://blog.zoom.us/wordpress/2020/03/20/keep-the-party-crashers-from-crashing-your-zoom-event/" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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GWG aaronpk: Did you get with [Sadik_Shahadu] re credentials?
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aaronpk no
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GWG aaronpk, I said I'd create a meeting in that case, I guess. But I don't want to play gatekeeper.
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GWG I'm hoping to just assist, not watch continuously.
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aaronpk i'm not clear on permissions on the 1password account, can others invite users to that too?
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GWG aaronpk: not sure. What are the sharing criteria?
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aaronpk seems reasonable to share the accounts with people who are organizing indieweb meetups
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GWG aaronpk: Should we document that somewhere?
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aaronpk yes probably
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GWG Maybe /remote_participation or somewhere else?
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aaronpk what is organizing?
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Loqi IndieWebCamp Organizing is a great way to bring together your local IndieWeb community, yet is also quite challenging, requires co-organizers, and key details to succeed that are documented in this page https://indieweb.org/organizing
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GWG A Zoom room is required from 10am-11am utc on Saturday. I wonder if Sadik will be on before then
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[Michael_Beckwi] look at all the people…sitting on a zoom