#meta 2020-05-25

2020-05-25 UTC
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[tantek] wow
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[tantek] hey folks, I'd like to replace "selfdogfood" in top level mentions in pages , especially /principles with "eat what you cook", which has the most support among many alternatives, and no objections currently: https://indieweb.org/selfdogfood#eat_your_cooking
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[tantek] Please add your +1/0/-1 to the various alternatives there, or add new alternatives if you like
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aaronpk oh hey i already voted
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[tantek] we'll take a look tomorrow and see if we're good to go with an obvious choice that the community can get behind.
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[tantek] also probably worth a blog post about deliberately changing terminology, why, and maybe some background about how we brainstormed on the wiki and in chat, let it simmer for quite some time, and then gave new folks a chance to speak up before making a decision
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ What about IndieWeb + WebRing? ;) https://boffosocko.com/2020/05/24/55771416/ https://indieweb.org/indiewebring (twitter.com/_/status/1264713027242188800)
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boffosocko.com edited /read (+157) "/* Other Examples */ Maggie Appleton" (view diff)
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[schmarty] tantek++
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Loqi tantek has 39 karma in this channel over the last year (118 in all channels)
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martymcgui.re edited /selfdogfood (+144) "/* eat your cooking */" (view diff)
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[schmarty] not sure if it's worth adding there, but this got me thinking about another version of the "Cooking your own dinner" which is not discussed on the page: "Cook for Yourself"
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[schmarty] putting the emphasis on the cooking (building) but with the implied expectation that you will eat it. 😄
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jacky oh that's good
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[schmarty] (that said, i _do_ like the re-inforcement of "eat what you cook". don't just build it and abandon it, use it!)
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[schmarty] i sense a 🤝 twitter meme coming on
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jacky haha
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[tantek] [schmarty] that’s the flip side, the equivalent to “scratch your itch”
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[schmarty] Ah yeah! Bonus principle update maybe!
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[tantek] Yes, we’ve definitely talked about replacing that one too
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[tantek] And you’re right, the complement pairs nicely
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[tantek] I’ll see if I can find where we captured those alternatives too. “Cook for yourself” or “cook what you need” sounds familiar
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[schmarty] "Cooking your own dinner" is mentioned in the selfdogfood brainstorming page but doesn't seem to have any discussion around it.
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@AndreJaenisch ↩️ Take a look at https://brid.gy/ for integrating reactions (likes, reblogs, tweets, comments etc.) You can also point to https://webmention.io/ for handling Webmentions. Those are kind of pingbacks you know about from WordPress. Explained in https://indieweb.org/Webmention (twitter.com/_/status/1264813657814380544)
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@TrailHub1 The future of the web, @TheTedNelson's past is here: Two-way meaningful links, transclusion, micropayments: cryptographic linked content. Be your own hub at the edges. Make the Web People-centered,Permanent, Interoperable, Tinkerable, (decent)ralized IndiWeb 3 @indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/status/982342546750783488 (twitter.com/_/status/1264815396126887941)
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[KevinMarks] LGTM
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[KevinMarks] On the eat what you cook metaphor, baking your own bread is a big thing at the moment
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[KevinMarks] The difference between a sourdough starter and the Chorleywood process as extended metaphor?
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jeremycherfas Hah! How did you know I was struggling to finish my slides for the Dublin Gastronomy Symposium, online this week, about the CBP?
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jeremycherfas I hope it will still be a thing in a few months time, but I'm not sure by any means what will continue and what will not.
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@j4yav There's a light over in the IndieWeb space: https://metaluna.io/blog/2020/05/25/theres-a-light-indieweb.html (twitter.com/_/status/1264914098808131590)
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[schmarty] Wow that is a good post! And shines some light on ways to improve the wiki and other onboarding tools!
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[schmarty] (e.g.: the getting started page being difficult to understand, checklists for things to do without guidance on whether you need the benefits, and IndieMark levels)
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aaronpk Nice to see a positive article about starting the IndieWeb journey tho!
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aaronpk mostly positive
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[schmarty] The sentiment seems all positive to me!
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[schmarty] (as in, they hit some roadbumps which they describe honestly but overall are happy with and encouraged by the experience)
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sknebel (author is in main channel, just saying :D)
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jacky re: that blog post
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jacky > Was it adding any value anywhere? I still have no idea really, but it was actually pretty fun to get working.
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jacky this is a _hard_ thing to measure for most
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jacky like it's easy if you only opt for yourself
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jacky but when you want to get into the actual social aspect of things
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jacky it's harder since it requires like at least two more people to see / interact with
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