#meta 2020-06-02

2020-06-02 UTC
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tantek.com edited /temporary_shutdown (+981) "#BlackOutTuesday, news, sites, how to / web component" (view diff)
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[tantek] alright I've added a section for BlackOutTuesday: https://indieweb.org/temporary_shutdown#BlackOutTuesday
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[tantek] please feel free to add yourself, or any public organization you see participating
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[tantek] and yes I think we should do something like that for the IndieWeb home page
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[tantek] at a minimum
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aaronpk i was confused, i thought today was tuesday
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aaronpk things are going well
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[tantek] It’s already Tuesday in Japan
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aaronpk true
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sknebel And Europe. Good morning! ;)
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GWG Time flies during a pandemic
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www.lewiscowles.co.uk edited /Twitter (+636) "/* Criticism */" (view diff)
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www.lewiscowles.co.uk edited /Twitter (+0) "/* Data protection / PII Capture */" (view diff)
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@Cambridgeport90 ↩️ I'm in a very odd mood today, just thought of all this when the #IndieWeb reminded me that I have to build my site all over again. Focus is going to get skewed, I think. because of trying to learn to develop, trying to admin, and helping the @faebornnetworks crew. Fun, fun. (twitter.com/_/status/1267783762890207232)
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[tantek] What's it about IndieWeb that gives the impression that one must build a site "all over again"?
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[itsjustk] i think its all the concepts people might be new with
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[itsjustk] and maybe the name might make some people think its apart from the "main" web, meaning different software requirements?
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[itsjustk] After all you need special tools to access the "dark web"
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aaronpk I thought she was starting a project to rebuild her site in .net
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jacky aaronpk: it sounds like it
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jacky but that's also them wanting to do it in their language of choice
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jacky yeah that last bit hints at this being a learning opportunity for them
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@jackyalcine as much as I'm not for either platform (a mix of the ssb/indieweb would be way more ideal than Facebook/Twitter); twitter is currently the safer of the two - its filtering is (sadly) not as aggressive as Facebook's (twitter.com/_/status/1267886367230443521)
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[chrisaldrich] The contexts are scattered, but from what I recall Katherine is pretty conversant with WordPress and the IndieWeb set up there, but she's supporting another community and wanted to build something in other languages as well (as has been suggested).
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jacky AH that makes so much more sense lol
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jacky I wish they were in here to clarify that
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[chrisaldrich] Though separate from that instance, it does seem like a pattern for some devs to change platforms on a pseudo regular basis. This may be the desire to have a different platform, different UI, see if the grass is greener in another pasture, other.
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jacky that's very true
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[chrisaldrich] Hopefully the switching around helps to cross-pollenate ideas as well as to incrementally improve UIs from one set up to another.
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[chrisaldrich] There's no other segment of my RSS feeds that I'm changing feed URLs for as frequently as I do for my "IndieWeb" category... somehow few people think to redirect their feed URLs...
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[chrisaldrich] I could have sworn [Cambridgeport90] was in chat at some point or another, but it could be the case that we've always communicated site-to-site or via Twitter.
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[chrisaldrich] I know there's a few (possibly out of date) charts on the wiki with checklists of features (https://indieweb.org/Quick_Start is an example for non-technical), but do we have a master list of (well-)supported indieweb building blocks for the 20 or so largest CMSes, platforms, etc.?
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[chrisaldrich] What is projects?
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Loqi There are many projects you can use to get your site on the IndieWeb, improve your IndieWeb support, or browse for inspiration for your own project; please note, some development ability and familiarity with command line tools will likely be required for you to use and improve these projects https://indieweb.org/projects
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[chrisaldrich] Some additional context about Katherine's recent work/search: https://twitter.com/Cambridgeport90/status/1266905285169471490
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@Cambridgeport90 Now that I have the time ... wondering if I should use it to learn a new content management system ... maybe something like @Withknown? Have thought about that, but then there are just some things about it that still drive me nuts. (twitter.com/_/status/1266905285169471490)
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jacky this is when I'd hint away from the wiki for stuff like this tbh
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jacky like it gets a little unwieldy fast
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[chrisaldrich] Those charts are not easy to create, that's for sure...
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[chrisaldrich] but there aren't many of us with enough institutional knowledge of more than a handful of platforms to be able to create such a thing...
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[chrisaldrich] Who wouldn't love to see a "Best 10 IndieWeb Platforms of 2020" article from an outlet like C|Net or Wired? But that's a tough hurdle.
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[jgmac1106] @Cambridgeport90 does community work for groups many consider outside of social norms so needs and wants similar features as other margianlized communities
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ These could be good reasons to join a Homebrew Website Club meeting coming up. Help, support, and brainstorming conversation within a group to make it easier? Everyone's welcome! https://boffosocko.com/2020/06/02/55771764/ http://events.indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1267909244235313152)
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[jgmac1106] While also needing top notch accessibility features so she can facilitate these communities....
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[jgmac1106] Everyone loves Known as a multi user site with all the privacy and social features.... But data storage and the fact that many building blocks not built for community sites cause issues
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[tantek] I think the meta point of find people first before documentation is more important
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[jgmac1106] Good point.
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