#meta 2020-06-26

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jmac
Would it be OK for me to grab some group-photo images from recent "This Week"s and smoosh em collage style into a slide for a short presentation I'm giving about Webmention (and IndieWeb, and my own efforts thereunto)?
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jmac
(Would link to the This Week URL from that slide)
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jmac
To clear the context is "IndieWeb is made of awesome and welcoming people" and not "look at these chuckleheads lol"
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boffosocko.com
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Loqi
Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-06-26.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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[chrisaldrich]
Looks like Tantek's RSVP to the main IWC event also got set up on the organizers meeting... https://events.indieweb.org/2020/06/indiewebcamp-west-2020-organizers-meeting-t78xoeCV2WCB
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jacky
jmac: IIRC anything on the wiki is free to use under the license :)
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jacky
[chrisaldrich]: makes sense since it's a mass RSVP https://tantek.com/2020/176/t4/indiewebcamp-west
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Loqi
[Tantek Çelik] going to IndieWebCamp West this weekend! 🗓 9am-6pm both Sat & Sun 🎟 RSVP & more https://2020.indieweb.org/west ✉️ Join us for keynotes, and pop-in for sessions thru the weekend! @brb_irl @Kongaloosh @AllAboutGeorge @JackyAlcine @AndiGalpern...
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[chrisaldrich]
aha, I didn't click through to the original to realize it was a multi-rsvp! I just remember seeing someone else with a similar quirk...
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[chrisaldrich]
apparently my concentration is flagging. I ought to hit the hay so I'm present for the call tomorrow....
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jmac
jacky: Ah, that would make sense! I wasn't sure if the This Week issues count at the wiki tho
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[tantek]
jmac thanks. Always good form to ask about photos n particular.
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boffosocko.com
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boffosocko.com
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@belong_io
IndieWebCamp West 2020 - Online only https://ift.tt/2CJY6Rd going to IndieWebCamp West this weekend! ? 9am-6pm both Sat & Sun ? RSVP & more ✉️ Join us for key... »
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jan.boddez.net
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jan.boddez.net
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@jgmac1106
↩️ You should lead a session on running and personal websites at @IndieWebCamp this weekend. I have been trying to do this myself but I am using GPX files..best I could do is just an iframe for now. https://francescoschwarz.com/articles/running-on-my-own/ (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/25x5nX)
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francescoschwarz.com
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@brittcreativeco
@wencesg says: "we're facing the unethical evolution of many social platforms, but there is a movement called the #IndieWeb that understands you're done with others owning your content and your identity!" https://buff.ly/3b8wAsO #startup
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@DonaldBMcIntosh
Looking for a Linux project during lockdown? Just wrote a blog about how to scan your old photos. Happy scanning! https://www.donaldmcintosh.net/blog/lockdownscanning #Linux #indieweb
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[jgmac1106]
What is threadjacking?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "threadjacking" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "threadjacking is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[jgmac1106]
What is tweetstorm?
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Loqi
tweetstorm is a series of tweets, each replying to the previous, often each numbered so the sequence is clear, as a method of expressing a longer series of related thoughts as a single thread on Twitter https://indieweb.org/tweetstorm
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jgregorymcverry.com
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[jgmac1106]
Step One" Get a domain, step two: set up website. You are now federated
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@booktoss
↩️ Looks cool but I am trying HARD not to work on weekends.
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@jgmac1106
100% This "In a nutshell, #IndieWeb is about using the World Wide Web itself as a social network, through a set of open standards for communication and identification of content and people." https://davidyat.es/2019/06/24/indieweb/ #edtechchat #oer (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1F4wuH)
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@jgmac1106
↩️ Ever want help adding #IndieWeb tools to personal site or community sites like #kidlit #31DaysofBIPOC, #diversityjedi let me know. Can make it M-F thing...we have to encourage data ownership in marginalized communities (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1syDm6)
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sknebel
aaronpk: I hope I got it right that thats what the chatlogs use?
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Loqi
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[tantek]
[chrisaldrich] GWG will there be an email to Tito registrants with an update?
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[tantek]
Eg details for tonight, and zoom info/links?
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aaronpk
fyi the red and orange zoom accounts are also paid accounts now
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aaronpk
let's use the main one for the main track
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@evertp
↩️ Ah that does sound interesting! always wanted to join one =)
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Loqi
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aaronparecki.com
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@jgmac1106
Just met with the @scsu and @yale student mentors who will be facilitating our tech4teens #IndieWeb tech camp this summer. Teens in #nhv area will explore passion, storytelling and coding from personal websites. Join us!!! (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/hf1Ol)
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GWG
[tantek]: Will send it during/after the meeting so we can discuss content
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aaronpk
GWG: did you ever finish editting the IWC London videos?
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[Ana_Rodrigues]
[aaronpk] I think I uploaded all of them and added to the wiki (the Saturday sessions). The only one missing is the Sunday demo that I need to upload. I should be able to do that sometime this weekend.
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Loqi
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theorbtwo1
Ah, there it goes. I was wondering how this irc/matrix/slack/whatever thing is done on a technical level, having some discussions about perl's community chating.
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jmac
theorbtwo1: 👋
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jmac
(I too am part of a roiling discussion happening in the "hallway" of the Perl conference about community chat, and I held up IndieWeb's as a healthy model)
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jmac
(and recommended asking questions about it here, haha. I don't know how this stuff works!!)
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[jgmac1106]
just like that ^^
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[jgmac1106]
Did we disconnect discord or is that bridge still active as well?
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aaronpk
nobody was using it, it had been inactive for months, but all the bridge accounts were still connected so it looked like this IRC channel was super popular
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[tantek]
popularity isn’t all it’s chalked up to be
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Loqi
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[schmarty]
theorbtwo1: an overview of indieweb chat channels and bridges is here: https://indieweb.org/discuss
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Loqi
LIVE NOW: IndieWebCamp West 2020 Organizers Meeting
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[schmarty]
i don't think it's mentioned there but we consider IRC to be the "main" channels. our community (cough, aaronpk, cough) runs a service that bridges to slack and to the web version at chat.indieweb.org. matrix.org runs a freenode IRC bridge for matrix users, so they have access that way.
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jmac
I hadn't noticed Discord going away tbh
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jmac
Probably because they were so quiet, haha
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aaronpk
it was actually a discord-matrix bridge so they looked like matrix users on the IRC side
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GWG
aaronpk, [tantek], you RSVPed...
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aaronpk
I RSVP'd with caveats
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boffosocko.com
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@w3bk3rn3l
IndieWebCamp West 2020 > Two days meeting up online to share ideas, create & improve personal websites, and build upon each other’s creations. Whether you’re a creator, writer, blogger, coder, designer, or just someone who wants to improve their… https://paulopinto.org/2020/06/106/
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GWG
Then we may start without [tantek] .
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GWG
He's the lone missing RSVPer
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[jgmac1106]
having trouble with the etherpads, keeps disconnecting everyone
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[jgmac1106]
^^ using as temp etherpad
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aaronpk
what's wrong with the etherpad?
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GWG
It keeps disconnecting everyone.
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[chrisaldrich]
!tell aaronpk, we should check the server with the etherpad. There's only 4 of us on it and it's having connectivity issues.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[chrisaldrich]
We keep getting kicked off and as a result it's not saving changes.
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aaronpk
i just restarted it
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aaronpk
looks fine now
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[jgmac1106]
okay heading back to the main one
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GWG
I'm getting reconnecting to your pad again
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aaronpk
i have a theory
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GWG
Okay?
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aaronpk
hm no, i thought it might be the emoji
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[schmarty]
emoji break etherpad
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[schmarty]
is speaking as the person who has broken an etherpad with emoji
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Loqi
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Loqi
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jacky
there's a giant 'P' in the newsletter ^
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jacky
is there a way to remove that?
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jacky
hmm yeah and the last two bookmarks don't have titles
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aaronpk
looks like someone added a giant photo
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aaronpk
to an event
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aaronpk
i'm guessing some bad wordpress markup of course
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aaronpk
ah it has been fixed but they didn't send an update webmention
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aaronpk
fixed it
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@jgmac1106
@OnlineCrsLady @steph_moore @jwiggi21 @harmonygritz @Ken_Bauer We are doing a free @indiewebcamp this weekend if you want to come along. @chrisaldrich proposed a #DoOO session where we can talk about the LMS through syndication (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1LOCfy)
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Loqi
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jacky
aaronpk++
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Loqi
aaronpk has 64 karma in this channel over the last year (228 in all channels)
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[tantek]
aaronpk looks like duplicate event in the newsletter for the Organizers meetup? also duplicate image for Karlsruhe?
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[tantek]
great morning Organizers session part 1. Especially appreciated call for explicit moderation role by [Ana_Rodrigues] ++
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[tantek]
let's try that again: [Ana_Rodrigues]++
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Loqi
[Ana_Rodrigues] has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (8 in all channels)
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Loqi
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aaronpk
the duplicate photo is actualyl on the event page more than once, someone can delete the duplicate here https://events.indieweb.org/2020/06/online-homebrew-website-club-karlsruhe-gGcoYsY7Pjiz
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[tantek]
ah it's there twice from a photo reply and an explicit upload!
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[tantek]
just removed the explicit upload
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[tantek]
aaronpk, any idea why the Organizers meetup as a whole is duplicated?
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aaronpk
nope, that is weird
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aaronpk
gonna make some coffee and hop back on zoom
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Loqi
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@cassiecodes
⚡️ I'll be doing a little lightning talk about my new site at IndieWebCamp West's meetup tomorrow. 10am Pacific Time - 6pm BST Register here https://2020.indieweb.org/west Looks like there's tons of fun stuff happening! Unfortunately, due to time zones I'll be asleep for most of it.
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Loqi
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@schmarty
↩️ They will! Most likely linked from the event organizing page: https://indieweb.org/2020/West
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Loqi
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Loqi
Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-06-26.html
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Loqi
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loqi.me
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GWG
Did I miss all the good stuff or are you still going?
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GWG
A 30 minute conversation took 3 hours.
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aaronpk
you missed some zoom planning
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Loqi
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@alexlindsay
I completely agree. Physical conferences exclude the vast majority of the community they are serving... almost 100% of the time. Streaming the live proceedings isn’t the same. Building for the online audience exclusively - allows nearly everyone to join in. It’s the future. https://twitter.com/marcoarment/status/1276525557073707009
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Loqi
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@qbwarmdays
↩️ good idea. when you do come back, consider alternatives that are not so crazy! (eg the open source networks like http://mastodon.social or doing it the https://indieweb.org/ way, and a privacy respecting messaging app like http://signal.org! blessings!
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Loqi
Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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@w3bk3rn3l
This is interesting –> Tantek Çelik proposes this rough equation: manual as long as the cost to doing so has a greater benefit than the reduced cost of doing it automatically minus the cost of setting up / maintaining. https://indieweb.org/manual_until_it_hurts%20automation
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@aaronpk
This is huge! @ThreadReaderApp can post your Twitter threads to your blog using Micropub! #indieweb https://twitter.com/threadreaderapp/status/1276635949254889472
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@lukeb3000
↩️ Hi Chris, I missed the video intro earlier this week. Is there a way for me to watch it back? Hope to see you at some of the sessions this weekend.
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@ChrisAldrich
↩️ The syndication functionality of threads from Twitter to your Micropub-enabled website using @ThreadReaderApp is now out of beta! #OwnYourData #IndieWeb Details: https://boffosocko.com/2020/05/28/threadreaderapp-micropub-to-blog/?replytocom=295612#respond https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1276635949254889472.html
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@threadreaderapp
↩️ To learn more about Micropub, please visit this page: https://indieweb.org/Micropub And here's a list of servers (services/blogs) that support Micropub: https://indieweb.org/Micropub/Servers
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@ChrisAldrich
↩️ It wasn't recorded, but you could try to catch us this evening https://events.indieweb.org/2020/06/indiewebcamp-west-eat-your-own-cooking-pre-party-DH5F8SRjSHff. Someone may be able to help you out in the morning too. We'll explain many of the bits in camp too just in case. Don't sweat it. https://boffosocko.com/2020/06/19/55772488/?replytocom=295623#respond
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@qbwarmdays
↩️ is nobody concerned that in end this will be hijacked in name of preventing antisemitism but used to muzzle BDS/ palestinian solidarity. yes stop hate for profit, but i'd suggest real reform of FB will NEVER happen - lip service will. divest & go to open source socnets & indieweb
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