#meta 2020-06-29
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@fluffy This weekend during @IndieWebCamp I implemented some homebrew and some PASTA. (twitter.com/_/status/1277399779912282112)
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tantek.com edited /person-tag (+2704) "/* Brainstorming */ Rethinking tagging and untagging user flow" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /h-card (+163) "/* How */ warning about hCard generator, bump down section" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /person-tag (+151) "/* Rethinking tagging and untagging user flow */ Additional considerations / concerns" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com created /User:Aaronparecki.com/IndieAuth_Ticket_Auth (+1031) "alternative to autoauth" (view diff)
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gRegorLove That etherpad color selector didn't keep my selection between pads
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# @fluffy New post: Plaidophile: Access token grants for feed readers https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/5711-Access-token-grants-for-feed-readers
This year IndieWeb Summit was canceled1, and some pretty good conversations took place. As usual my biggest interest was in doing authenticated, secure sharing of private posts, which has been … (twitter.com/_/status/1277410555897266177)
# aaronparecki.com edited /2020/West/Schedule () "(-551) /* Sunday */ update sunday schedule to match what happened" (view diff)
# aaronparecki.com created /2020/West/AutoAuth (+361) "Created page with "'''AutoAuth''' was a breakout session during [[2020/West|IndieWebCamp West]] day 2. == Links == * Working AutoAuth client and server ** https://github.com/aaronpk/automatic-..."" (view diff)
# @fluffy ↩️ Yeah! It was a late birthday present to myself. (twitter.com/_/status/1277413407365324800)
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@cathieleblanc Great #IndieWeb Camp this weekend! Here's a write-up of the project I worked on: https://cathieleblanc.com/2020/06/28/indie-web-camp-west-2020-project-update/ (twitter.com/_/status/1277414129582694401)
# aaronparecki.com edited /User:Aaronparecki.com/IndieAuth_Ticket_Auth (+334) "fix example flow" (view diff)
# aaronparecki.com edited /User:Aaronparecki.com/IndieAuth_Ticket_Auth (+89) "/* Step 2 */" (view diff)
# @fluffy ↩️ also notice my forlorn hand-cranked pasta maker in the background, which I will probably be taking to the thrift store soon (twitter.com/_/status/1277417359813165056)
# aaronparecki.com edited /User:Aaronparecki.com/IndieAuth_Ticket_Auth (+123) "/* Step 2 */" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+180) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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[chrisaldrich] I'm not 100% sure where the issue lies, but I though Zoom would remember one's display name from session to session.
# [chrisaldrich] I remember changing mine to add my website and pronouns a couple of times, but I think they got dropped or missed a few times over the weekend.
# [chrisaldrich] Has anyone else seen this issue?
# [chrisaldrich] I have a feeling once or twice it may have been because I was logged in and using one of the IndieWeb accounts, but I don't think that would have been the problem for all of the instances I seem to remember.
# [chrisaldrich] Thanks, I'll double check. I just remembering having the opposite problem last month. My daughter kept changing my display name to hers, so I was always in meetings as Genevieve or ジェネビーブ for her Japanese classes. I still have people calling me "Katakana Chris" because they didn't know the characters.
# [chrisaldrich] And she never had access to the account level...
# [chrisaldrich] And oddly I don't recall changing my name in one of the IndieWeb accounts from what I would have guessed to have been a color name to my own name...
# [chrisaldrich] They may be calling me Je-ne-bee-boo chan behind my back for all I know. 😁
# tantek.com edited /IndieAuth_Ticket_Auth (+81) "stub separate use-cases section at the top for full summary (without protocol speak) of user-driven scenarios/tasks that inspired this" (view diff)
# [chrisaldrich] I was impressed that at least someone in the group was able to distinguish the Katakana from the Hiragana or Kanji, so maybe they do know???
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# aaronparecki.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:aaronpk-ticket-admin.png]]" https://indieweb.org/File:aaronpk-ticket-admin.png"
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david.shanske.com created /Category:Pop-ups (+120) "Created page with "'''<dfn>Pop-ups</dfn>''' are IndieWebCamp Sessions that occur as standalone events, rather than part of an IndieWebCamp."" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /2020/Pop-up/Sessions (+247) "potential pop ups for micropub, microsub, IndieAuth" (view diff)
# boffosocko.com edited /2020/Pop-up/Sessions (+684) "organization details under subheadings to fill in" (view diff)
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sentamal.in edited /User:Sentamal.in (+135) "Finished the Pagination itch; linking back to the article describing my work." (view diff)
# gregorlove.com edited /2020/West/Schedule () "(-592) /* Saturday */ hallway track; rm unused Yellow Room" (view diff)
# boffosocko.com created /2020/Create_Day_Intro (+6472) "archived etherpad from morning session" (view diff)
# boffosocko.com edited /2020/West/Demos (+284) "add video links; clean up page structure and formatting from etherpad" (view diff)
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@calum_ryan Making the Web More Whimsical by @cassiecodes https://archive.org/details/iwc-west-2020-making-the-web-whimsical #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1277581713250680834)
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@jgmac1106 Please share widely: We are running a FREE Technology Camp For Teens #nhv @ctmirror @nhregister #edtechchat @edcampct #IndieWeb #DigPed : https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2020/06/29/please-share-widely-we-are-running-a-free-technology-camp (twitter.com/_/status/1277582605328793603)
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@w3bk3rn3l I met Scott Gruber at IndieWebCamp West 2020 this weekend. He’s a very nice person and I came to his blog to know more about his projects. I’m amazed by how often people forget that the true spirit of the Internet is to share ideas and interests with ... https://paulopinto.page/2020/06/29/i-met-scott.html (twitter.com/_/status/1277610752577286146)
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# boffosocko.com edited /2020/West (+230) "past tense; archived Tickets/RSVP down page; commented out extraneous portions instead of removing to allow future camps easier cut/paste; reorganized sections for archival reading" (view diff)
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# boffosocko.com edited /2020/West (+219) "photos from day 1 & 2 linked from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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# [chrisaldrich] 2020/West << Aaron Parecki demo post [https://aaronparecki.com/2020/06/28/7/blog-posts Redesigning my Blog Post Pages]
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Loqi ok, I added "Aaron Parecki demo post [https://aaronparecki.com/2020/06/28/7/blog-posts Redesigning my Blog Post Pages]" to the "See Also" section of /2020/West https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=70916&oldid=70915
# [chrisaldrich] 2020/West <<
{{fluffy}} post about [https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/5711-Access-token-grants-for-feed-readers Access token grants for feed readers]# Loqi ok, I added "
{{fluffy}} post about [https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/5711-Access-token-grants-for-feed-readers Access token grants for feed readers]" to the "See Also" section of /2020/West https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=70917&oldid=70916 gRegorLove joined the channel
# [chrisaldrich] AutoAuth <<
{{fluffy}} post [https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/5711-Access-token-grants-for-feed-readers Access token grants for feed readers]# Loqi ok, I added "
{{fluffy}} post [https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/5711-Access-token-grants-for-feed-readers Access token grants for feed readers]" to the "See Also" section of /AutoAuth https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=70918&oldid=70856 twomanytacos joined the channel
# [chrisaldrich] I've gone through all the Camp links and am reasonably sure they're categorized by the camp itself and that they're 2020 sessions. Are there others I'm not thinking of or missing so that they show up on category pages or trees? gRegorLove?
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@Asherehsa ↩️ Ooh I forgot you were part of indieweb very cool! (twitter.com/_/status/1277655724798042112)
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[tantek] can we get the Site intros etherpad https://etherpad.indieweb.org/Lightning_Intros archived on the wiki? https://indieweb.org/2020/Intros (needs copy/paste and clean-up, e.g. some folks don't have their own headings etc.)
# boffosocko.com created /Category:IWC_West_2020_Sessions (+400) "category page for West/2020 sessions" (view diff)
# boffosocko.com created /Category:IWC_West_2020_Organizing (+575) "List of organizing pages" (view diff)
# boffosocko.com edited /2020/West/Schedule (+19) "comment out organizing portions which didn't happen/weren't used" (view diff)
# [chrisaldrich] I'm slowly going through /2020/West pages and doing clean up and archiving of them all in an attempt to clean as much of it up as I can while my memory is fresh.
# [chrisaldrich] I've also commented out some of the sections we had, but didn't use so that future organizers can simply cut/paste and begin editing for the next camp as easily as possible.
# tantek.com moved /2020/Intros to /2020/West/Intros
# gRegorLove perks up at infobox template
# boffosocko.com edited /2020/Pop-up/Sessions (+10823) "archiving potential hold-over sessions that were unscheduled from 2020/West so they can be used/planned for later" (view diff)
# gRegorLove [chrisaldrich], sounds right. Every camp-related page in Category:IndieWebCamp West 2020 and day 1 sessions also in Category:2020 sessions
# [chrisaldrich] thanks gRegorLove
# gRegorLove Lately I've been going to the main topic pages, like /Micropub and linking the sessions in a list there. Heading varies, I like "Sessions" but I've seen "IndieWebCamp Sessions"
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# gRegorLove ?
# gRegorLove It's linked on /2020/West
# gRegorLove So not sure what needs to be redirected
# gRegorLove Category:Events should work to drill down to any event. The hierarchy is Events > [yyyy] > [camp name]
# boffosocko.com edited /2020/West/Proposals (+20951) "archive session proposal etherpad" (view diff)
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# boffosocko.com edited /2020/West/Schedule (-347) "/* Projects */ moved some text from wiki into archive section with other projects; linked to archive; commented out instructions for modification by next camp" (view diff)
# gRegorLove interesting per-camp category for sessions. [chrisaldrich] do you think we should move towards that instead of the per-year category?
# gRegorLove https://indieweb.org/Category:IWC_West_2020_Sessions seems like a short version of the schedule page, but it does also make it easy to embed a list of sessions with the #categorytree tag
# [chrisaldrich] I created to additional categories for this camp, one for "organizing pages" and one for "session pages". While organizing I sort of wish I'd had them for quick reference, but they also make some nice UI for finding things once the camp is over.
# [chrisaldrich] As I go through the final archiving process of this camp, I'm generally trying to simply comment out some of the planning portions so that future camps can more easily cut and paste moving forward.
# [chrisaldrich] Hopefully it will be easy for organizers to deal with these new categories (and people will find them useful) with the cut/paste/rename set up, then pieces that are needed will just have redlinks to be filled in or copied over without as much work. Thoughts?
# gRegorLove Cool. added those cats so they're sub-cats now
# gRegorLove I'll need to take a look at what you're referring to, not sure I follow. Going afk for a bit though
# boffosocko.com edited /2020/West/Intros (+332) "video from session; explicit TOC under video section" (view diff)
# gRegorLove that embed looks weird, like it's embedding the whole archive.org page not just the video
# [chrisaldrich] I copied it from a prior camp page... it does embed the whole page, but it only scrolls if you're in the window to scroll it....
# [chrisaldrich] Not sure if there's a better way to embed just the video itself? maybe a direct link to the video file?
# [chrisaldrich] haven't gotten to that part on my list yet while on conference calls today...
# [chrisaldrich] I think the videos that are embedded now are the only ones worth doing on their pages. The rest are probably best kept on the schedule page...
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# [chrisaldrich] Other than potentially adding missing cross links to other wiki pages or templates for people, I think most of the /2020/West pages are in reasonable shape.
# [chrisaldrich] I'm taking a break for a bit, but might also come back to add some of the sessions to the respective wiki pages they're broadly about (especially the more technical /brainstormy ones) in ==Camp Sessions== sections on those pages.
# [chrisaldrich] I will note that having etherpads for some of the pieces like Intros, Demos, Project Planning helped on multiple levels.
# [chrisaldrich] They were a bit more accessible than trying to get people to edit wiki (or having potential conflicts doing so).
# [chrisaldrich] It seems like it helped people focus more directly in one place for note taking rather than needing to copy notes over from chat.
# [chrisaldrich] It also cuts down on the amount of attention one needs to split between the video, the etherpad, AND the chat AND other channels to follow what's going on ...
# [chrisaldrich] I'm not sure if it was the same for attendees, but I felt a lot of additional anxiety about the need to be able to watch/check half a dozen different places simultaneously between video, audio, multiple chat channels and etherpad simultaneously as an organizer. Just too many inputs all at once.
# [chrisaldrich] slack didn't seem to want to give me any notifications of my name being used about half the time either... and I particularly checked the settings on Thursday night just in case.
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# @w3bk3rn3l IndieWebCamp West 2020: https://paulopinto.org/2020/06/indiewebcamp-west-2020/ (twitter.com/_/status/1277712568086298625)
# gRegorLove agreed, etherpad worked great for intros and demos
# gRegorLove weird, I don't see an embed link on the archive.org video
# gRegorLove that seems to work
# gRegorLove archive.org/embed/ + slug
# Loqi ok, I added "https://paulopinto.org/2020/06/indiewebcamp-west-2020/" to the "See Also" section of /2020/West https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=70971&oldid=70945
# [chrisaldrich] thanks gRegorLove, I was going to track it down and do a hard embed, but nice that they've got a custom one.
# gregorlove.com edited /2020/West (+671) "/* Posts */ aaronpk and fluffy's posts, citation template" (view diff)
# [chrisaldrich] That's probably not a bad idea. I had tried to connect another monitor to my set up that morning, but was having issues with my second screen and the only alternate I had didn't have the right dongle.
# [chrisaldrich] WOW! 😲
# [chrisaldrich] I was hoping my 50" tv would work too as a primary monitor just for the extra real estate...
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loqi.me edited /master (+142) "jacky added "Origin from git use: https://github.com/bitkeeper-scm/bitkeeper/blob/master/doc/HOWTO.ask?WT.mc_id=-blog-scottha#L231-L232" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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# Loqi ok, I added "https://snarfed.org/2020-06-27_bridgy-stats-update-5" to the "See Also" section of /2020/West https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=70983&oldid=70975