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boffosocko.com edited /2020/Pop-up/Sessions (+1373) "Proposal for IndieWeb Friendly WordPress Themes" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] [tb] 22;00 to 23:00 utc my sweet-spot happy to to co-host an IWC Meet Up[ East
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[tb] That's perfect for me [jgmac1106]
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[tb] Is there a day that works well for you? The main day of the week I always have prior commitments is Wednesday
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[jgmac1106] M or T then best for me. Partner works nights R and F
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[jgmac1106] don't think I will make tonights meet up. Son has a Battlefront II thing scheduled...wanna give him the bandwidth
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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[tb] Yeah I'm on my ritual Wednesday night VHH for work tonight (and every We)
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[tb] Mondays I can definitely do
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[tantek] uh help with the HWC West automatic meeting thing - the Zoom says it's scheduled for 7/22 when you try to use the "live now" link to join. aaronpk, GWG
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[tantek] cc: Salt[m]
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aaronpk shouldn't matter as long as a host is in the meeting
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[tantek] no it matters because you get rejected instead of being told to wait for the host
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[tantek] so people are bouncing while waiting for a host
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[tantek] instead of collecting in the "lobby"
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Salt[m] Yeah, can't get it going, will set up an alt room
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Salt[m] Sorry for the delay
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GWG Did someone clone last week's event and not set up a new meeting
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aaronpk that seems likely
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aaronpk Salt[m]: did you get the password for zoom or find someone who has it to host?
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Salt[m] Nope, but I have a zoom premium if no one can get it going
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[tantek] maybe cloning an event should clear the "live meeting" link?
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Salt[m] Just fiddling with internet
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aaronpk did you pick someone to host or was that going to be you?
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aaronpk feel free to replace the meeting link in the event with your own if that's fastest
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aaronpk makes a note to not duplicate the meeting link when cloning an event
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[tantek] aaronpk want a meetable issue?
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aaronpk done
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aaronpk https://github.com/aaronpk/Meetable/issues/110
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Loqi [aaronpk] #110 Don't duplicate meeting link when cloning an event
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[tantek] 🎉
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[tantek] checks to see if aaronpk owns his issues 🙂
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aaronpk i mostly do not hehe
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[chrisaldrich] Does that fix the proximal issue of having a zoom room for now?
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[chrisaldrich] Shall I set one up for us?
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aaronpk lets the HWC hosts figure that out
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[tantek] finds https://aaronparecki.com/2020/04/06/11/ lol 🙂
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[chrisaldrich] I can set one up for us if you want Salt...
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[tantek] keeps reloading the event to see if the zoom changes
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Salt[m] internet up, Zoom here: https://washington.zoom.us/j/96272496785
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[tantek] Salt[m] want to update the event or want help with that?
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Salt[m] updating the event rihgt now
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[tantek] yay!
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Loqi 😃
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Loqi [Event Updated] www.altsalt.net updated "Jul 29, 2020 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club West Coast" changed meeting_url "update Zoom room" https://events.indieweb.org/event/117/history/487/diff
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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maxwelljoslyn Thanks everyone for a great HWC West and for welcoming my friend Joseph to the community :^)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-368) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /Template:next-hwc (+0) "update next date from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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GWG Zegnat: This seems up your alley... interested? https://indieweb.org/2020/Pop-up/Sessions#Microformats_2
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martymcgui.re edited /2020/Pop-up/Sessions (+19) "/* Microformats 2 */" (view diff)
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@willtmonroe IndieWeb Events: https://willtmonroe.com/microblog/indieweb-events/ (twitter.com/_/status/1288825020790308865)
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GWG [schmarty]++
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Loqi [schmarty] has 28 karma in this channel over the last year (68 in all channels)
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GWG We'll get this session on the calendar soon, I think
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[chrisaldrich] Right now at WP Campus 2020 Online: Five Ways To Make Your Projects and Events More Diverse https://2020.wpcampus.org/schedule/five-ways-to-make-your-projects-and-events-more-diverse/. If you can't watch it now, might make for a good replay later so we can help improve IWC.
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[chrisaldrich] transcript << ​A perk of live digital captions: the transcript makes it easy to "quote tweet" especially when live tweeting a conference.
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Loqi ok, I added "​A perk of live digital captions: the transcript makes it easy to "quote tweet" especially when live tweeting a conference." to the "See Also" section of /transcript https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=71749&oldid=67768
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@MorrisPelzel Not clear how to RSVP on the event site, but planning to attend. #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1288861284419751936)
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aaronpk ooh i need a "log in to rsvp" message or something
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Loqi [Event Updated] boffosocko.com updated "Aug 1, 2020 9:30am Getting Started with WordPress, an IndieWebCamp Pop-up Session" changed description "details for RSVPing" https://events.indieweb.org/event/118/history/488/diff
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ Mo, Twitter is as good as anything! I've added a few links to the event page to help out, but there's still a bit of a rabbit hole depending on how you want to do it, so I'm going to write up some better documentation to make it easier. https://boffosocko.com/2020/07/28/getting-started-with-wordpress-an-indiewebcamp-pop-up-session-2/?replytocom=298074#respond (twitter.com/_/status/1288883866283864064)
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boffosocko.com edited /indielogin.com (+192) "examples" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /wikifying (+357) "/ How to Join the IndieWeb Wiki / reword a bit and provide brief introduction to additional benefits, particularly beginners coming directly to this section from external locations" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /Indieweb_for_Education (+156) "/* Videos */ Anatomy of a Great Faculty Website session at WPCampus 2020 Online" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /Indieweb_for_Education (+444) "/* WordPress */ ASU Labs Theme" (view diff)
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Zegnat An mf2 popup does seem up my alley, GWG! I will add my interest in a bit. My calendar is a bit volatile so not sure I can be of much help planning a date
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boffosocko.com edited /2020/Pop-up/Sessions (+63) "/* IndieWeb Friendly WordPress Themes */ chrisaldrich potential project for the session" (view diff)
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GWG Zegnat: These pop-ups are working out well for closing down things we never get to sit down and discuss
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Zegnat Yeah, I feel like we sometimes managed to use mf2 sessions for that at in-person events. But without those...
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GWG Zegnat: Even then...you can't always get enough knowledgeable Microformats people together
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Zegnat I am on the interested list now :)
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GWG Zegnat: Can I give you some homework?
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Zegnat Sounds like a trap
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GWG Zegnat: Like on the Micropub and IndieAuth sessions, are you willing to come up with some issues that are either ready for discussion or could be easily?
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GWG A list for the proposal?
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Zegnat Oh, yeah, I can probably spare a break tomorrow to go through some microformats repos and see what issues seem prime for consideration
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GWG Zegnat: No urgency, we don't have a date...but I figured that might get some interest in one
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GWG I selfishly want to have all these conversations about Micropub and IndieAuth and Microformats so I'm doing my best to encourage
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@ChrisAldrich That was an awesome little session on themes by @SteveRyan_ASU at #WPCampus. I can see it being useful for folks in the Domain of One's Own space. #DoOO #IndieWeb https://boffosocko.com/2020/07/30/anatomy-of-a-great-faculty-website-wpcampus/ (twitter.com/_/status/1288912617000460289)
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Zegnat GWG++ clearly you are the hypeman we didn't know we needed!
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Loqi GWG has 27 karma in this channel over the last year (134 in all channels)
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GWG Zegnat: And I think I lack charisma to get people to do things.
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boffosocko.com edited /User:Boffosocko.com (+1428) "long overdue update" (view diff)
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[chrisaldrich] !tell kimberlyhirsh, jacky Since you're regularly updating your user page, would you consider adding yourselves as examples at https://indieweb.org/wikifying#IndieWeb_Examples ?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@tomayac ↩️ Tiny correction: A Fragmention is this: https://indieweb.org/fragmention by @kevinmarks. The Chrome thing is this: https://web.dev/text-fragments/. (twitter.com/_/status/1288946453633732608)
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[manton] So I’m in the middle of registering application/feed+json for JSON Feed, and the question came up about who or what organization should be responsible for changes to the registration. [tantek] suggested that maybe JSON Feed should be listed on spec.indieweb.org, since it’s in the spirit of other IndieWeb formats. Anyone have any thoughts about that, pros/cons and how we could move forward?
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GWG [manton]: I think the question is what makes a specification a community one?
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aaronpk it's interesting because when we were doing these specs in the w3c working group there was a clear governing body for that work. but that group concluded a few years ago and we're now continuing to develop these independently
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aaronpk so in effect we have become a standards organization, even if a loosely defined one
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GWG aaronpk: So, is it time to decide what makes a spec one we'll 'sponsor'?
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[manton] [aaronpk] Yeah, that makes sense. The standards need to continue to evolve.
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aaronpk i guess it does GWG
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GWG Well, if we stick with our current principles...a specification has to be consumed and published by someone to be sponsored by us.
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GWG So, multiple adopters.
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GWG Which JSONFeed meets
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GWG What other principles are part of our specifications?
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[manton] When I think of specs that are in the spirit of IndieWeb /principles, I think of things that relate to people owning their content, sites interoperating, etc.
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GWG [manton]: What makes JSONFeed unique compared to RSS, Atom, etc?
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[manton] @GWG Good question. From my perspective, RSS and Atom have been frozen forever, whereas JSON Feed is a newer format and could continue to improve, including thinking about whether some parts of JSON Feed and JF2 could be made more similar, so that it’s easier to work with them.
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[tw2113] i think there is some inherent bias against XML parsing in general
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[tw2113] “JSON is just easier!”
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GWG [manton]: Interesting conversation to have.
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[manton] In other words, there’s no value in moving RSS/Atom under the IndieWeb because nothing will ever happen with those formats.
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[chrisaldrich] IndieWeb feels like the working group we've always needed... was there a clear enough mandate on the recent IndieWeb & W3C question?
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@exilehabit ↩️ http://IndieWeb.org (twitter.com/_/status/1288986186162343936)
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@taehynrgs ↩️ indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/1288985601727897600)
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[manton] [chrisaldrich] This is where I’d love some insight, because I wasn’t around for the W3C working group. Does the IndieWeb need to become any more formal about the process to be a “standards organization”, or is it more about just saying: yes, we’re doing this, and these standards will be taken care of here, outside the W3C or IETF.
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aaronpk anyone can be a working group, there's no working group oversight working group :P
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aaronpk openid did that themselves too