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[chrisaldrich]
Given the DRY and sidefile violations, there's a case to be made that IndieWeb likely wouldn't have developed it early on. That said, it does help to provide an easy enough bridge between a variety of things, so I wouldn't be opposed to supporting it now.
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[chrisaldrich]
There are also a number of people here with standards building experience and infrastructure to support such a thing in a thoughtful manner...
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[tantek]
The closest we have to "process" are the /principles, and adjacent, we have processes for updating microformats2 and specific microformats specs. [manton] maybe take a look at those and see if those maintenance processes resonate with you and if you have any additional suggestions or ok to point out issues too!
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[tantek]
a lot of it is about getting real world examples of publishing & consuming, and getting consensus among developers, and I think that's a pretty good basis for light-weight standards work
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GWG
[tantek]: You've worked on a lot of standards groups. This seems to be an area you probably have a lot of insight into
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[tantek]
GWG, yeah I have some experience in this kind of thing to help with. And that experience is exactly why I'm asking the questions that I am, and encouraging multiple participants to express their opinions on how it could/should work, very early in the process πŸ™‚
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Loqi
Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2020-07-31.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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[chrisaldrich]
I dropped in a back up photo for HWC West for the newsletter, but I think Salt may have gotten a better one possibly? If you did, feel free to upload and replace it. πŸ™‚
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boffosocko.com
created /events/2020-07-29-hwc-west-coast (+2719) "initial archive of etherpad"
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Loqi
[Event Updated] boffosocko.com updated "Jul 29, 2020 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club West Coast" changed description "archived etherpad" https://events.indieweb.org/event/117/history/489/diff
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boffosocko.com
edited /events/2020-07-29-hwc-west-coast (+386) "cleaned up wiki formatting and links"
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Loqi
[New Event] boffosocko.com created "Aug 5, 2020 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club West Coast" https://events.indieweb.org/08ly4RfInxTg
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[chrisaldrich]
I've created a HWC event for next Wednesday which I'll host. Anyone want to add some additional ones to give the newsletter additional runway for the rest of August? [tantek] [gRegorLove] GWG
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[chrisaldrich]
Salt++ for covering this week
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Loqi
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Loqi
[[IndieWeb]] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IndieWeb&diff=970412300&oldid=prev 220.244.179.168: websites not blogs as it is more generalised
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kaja.sknebel.net
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@oatp
Crafting an OER network in Ghana using IndieWeb building blocks – Open Repositories 2021 https://ift.tt/39I0lAZ
(twitter.com/_/status/1289200928399273984)
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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[tantek]
[chrisaldrich]++ thanks for creating next week's HWC West event! Yes we should create events for all of August
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Loqi
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[manton]
Following up on the discussion yesterday about JSON Feed and how it fits with the IndieWeb, I’ve written up a first draft of how I think some of the IndieWeb principles relate to it. I’m biased but I tried to be fair and point out some areas where it’s not aligned. I used β€œthumbs up” and β€œx” emoji. Feedback welcome! https://gist.github.com/manton/7a8e4a7cd295dc2e2bc2dd4afa30583d
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[chrisaldrich]
good catch on the spelling πŸ˜‰ lgtm
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[manton]
Sorry about that. Tried to fix it quickly once I noticed. πŸ™‚
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Loqi
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[chrisaldrich]
[jeremycherfas] (replying to note from chat): I've had a blockage about documenting some of those online UI patterns relating to memory, collections, digital gardens, zettlekasten, second brains, etc. for lack of a place to hang them in the wiki.
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[chrisaldrich]
Perhaps the best solution is to group them with the pre-existing /commonplace_book page since they're all generally related. I've added a paragraph to the top of that page with an explanation and will create some redirects.
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[chrisaldrich]
We can always split them out later if they really need to be better differentiated.
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[jeremycherfas]
That works.
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boffosocko.com
edited /commonplace_book (+626) "paragraph about zettlekasten, digital gardens, second brains; see also links; removed duplicate from see also that was in presentations"
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boffosocko.com
edited /commonplace_book (+330) "Lists of examples from Maggie Appleton and KasperZutterman"
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[jeremycherfas]
[chrisaldrich]++
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Loqi
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[tantek]
^ new pages could use a few dfn fixes so they show up properly
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boffosocko.com
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[chrisaldrich]
!tell angelo I didn't think there was one already, but there is a /Jupyter page on the wiki if you want to add a more fleshed out version of your example use.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
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tantek.com
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loqi.me
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boffosocko.com
edited /mute (+30) "/* Past Examples */ Quiet Time: link to github repo; removed quiettime.xyz link as it no longer resolves."
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boffosocko.com
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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