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@RubygemsN indieweb-post_types-identifier-bookmark (1.1.1): IndieWeb Bookmark Post Type Discovery for Microformats 2 JSON. https://rubygems.org/gems/indieweb-post_types-identifier-bookmark (twitter.com/_/status/1290079310708056064)
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[tantek] aaronpk, for your reading and consideration of what kind of nudging features *not* to implement in Loqi: https://medium.com/the-social-alchemists/language-experiments-in-the-wild-what-happens-when-you-try-and-nudge-away-possessional-speech-e915c054df15 (cc: [schmarty] who will likely appreciate the linguistic shenanigans)
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tantek.com edited /tweetstorm (+46) "pagelogo, thanks to chrisaldrich I think" (view diff)
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[schmarty] 😆
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[tantek] WhatsApp << Criticism 2020-07-02 The Guardian: [https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jul/02/whatsapp-groups-conspiracy-theories-disinformation-democracy What's wrong with WhatsApp]
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism 2020-07-02 The Guardian: [https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jul/02/whatsapp-groups-conspiracy-theories-disinformation-democracy What's wrong with WhatsApp]" to the "See Also" section of /WhatsApp https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=71822&oldid=67036
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aaronpk lol wow
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[tantek] which the bot or whatsapp?
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tantek.com edited /How_to_set_up_web_sign-in_on_your_own_domain (-109) "copy edit a little, de-dupe why, rm G+ code" (view diff)
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@swentel Pushed a release of Indigenous for Android adding support for Mastodon, Pleroma and Pixelfed - install links on https://indigenous.realize.be. Note: F-Droid might take a few more days. Video demonstrating Pixelfed at https://youtu.be/2aHSx0G5BM4 #indieweb #fediverse (twitter.com/_/status/1290181885130420224)
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@dying4badmusic ↩️ There is the IndieWeb movement that advocates for "Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere" ( https://indieweb.org/POSSE). Unfortunately, it's full of web tech lingo, but the base principle is to own your content and preserve it under your own terms. (twitter.com/_/status/1290187910747049984)
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@cswordpress Video: Getting Started with #WordPress #indieweb pop-up session https://archive.org/details/getting-started-with-word-press-indie-web-popup-2020/GettingStartedWithWordPress-IndieWebPopup2020-GalleryView.mp4 (twitter.com/_/status/1290213215838724096)
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@Cambridgeport90 #Indieweb and #Drupal questions of the morning ... if using the administration>configuration>services area, and you set up third-party posting targets, how do those work with the indieweb module as oppose to having Bridgy post on your behalf? (twitter.com/_/status/1290263362698280962)
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@Cambridgeport90 This is probably a question for @Swentel, but even though the Drupal indieweb module doesn't support certain post types, what about using Indigenous to fill in? Does that even work? (twitter.com/_/status/1290265675177398272)
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@dshster ↩️ Где-то здесь обсуждалась концепция Индивеба (https://indieweb.org/, https://marinintim.com/2019/indieweb/) и многие приходят к тому, что своё родное всё же лучше в отличии от огромного засилия социальных сетей контролирующих и навязывающих всё и вся. (twitter.com/_/status/1290270460622467073)
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[jgmac1106] good piece from [benatwork] https://werd.io/2020/masculinity-isnt-effectiveness
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@IT_Region Übermorgen, Mittwoch, 5.8., 19 Uhr WORDPRESS MEETUP STUTTGART (Online Event) Matthias Pfefferle (@pfefferle) von @ionos_de spricht über #IndieWeb und #WordPress https://it.region-stuttgart.de/termine/online-event-wordpress-meetup-stuttgart-8-2020/ #wp0711 #wpmeetupstgt #Digitalisierung #IT #RegionStuttgart (twitter.com/_/status/1290300342358274048)
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[chrisaldrich] tantek, related to the language experiments/slack bot nudging, here's another longer term experiment I ran across the other day (with some linked research): https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/11/07/777276474/western-individualism-may-have-roots-in-the-medieval-churchs-obsession-with-ince
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theadhocracy.co.uk edited /User:Theadhocracy.co.uk (+725) (view diff)
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[chrisaldrich] What is bandcamp?
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Loqi Bandcamp is a silo for artists to promote their music, including streaming and customizable pricing for purchasing music https://indieweb.org/Bandcamp
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[chrisaldrich] musician << Bandcamp
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Loqi ok, I added "[[Bandcamp]]" to the "See Also" section of /musician https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=71827&oldid=70642
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[chrisaldrich] Bandcamp << musician
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Loqi ok, I added "[[musician]]" to the "See Also" section of /Bandcamp https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=71828&oldid=25372
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boffosocko.com edited /Bandcamp (+149) "pagelogo; links; see also" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /musician (+204) "see also: /IndieWeb_for_business; Bandcamp to silo examples" (view diff)
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[tantek] chrisaldrich++ for some good articles / links
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[tantek] [jgmac1106]++ yes that post from [benatwork] is excellent reading for all /Organizers in particular. Strongly encourage anyone who hosts or is interested in (co-)hosting a HWC read ben's post.
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Loqi [Event Updated] tantek.com updated "Aug 8, 2020 9:30am IndieAuth 1.1 Identity Protocol Standards Session" changed name, description "more specific and explicit title, copy edit description a bit" https://events.indieweb.org/event/133/history/492/diff
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[tantek] heads-up GWG, aaronpk, I renamed the "IndieAuth Pop-up" session to "IndieAuth 1.1 Identity Protocol Standards Session" because that seemed much more explicit about what the session is about
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GWG [tantek]: That's fine with me
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[tantek] especially for folks who are not "insiders" in the community already and may want to understand more context (yes just from reading the name)
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GWG [tantek]: Up for scheduling the Microformats session?
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[tantek] naming events is often more important for people *not* in the community than those in the community
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[tantek] GWG, maybe later this month?
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GWG [tantek]: I just want to put it on the calendar.
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GWG How about the morning of the 23rd?
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GWG We've been doing weekend mornings to get the most timezone coverage
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Loqi [Event Updated] tantek.com updated "Aug 8, 2020 9:30am IndieAuth 1.1 Identity Protocol Standards Session" changed description "most implemented" https://events.indieweb.org/event/133/history/493/diff
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[tantek] GWG, Saturday mornings don't usually work for me unfortunately. I'll try to figure out an alternative
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GWG [tantek]: That's a Sunday morning
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GWG [tantek]: Either way, I have had so much fun at the last few, would love for us to get it in with at least a week or two to promote it
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[tantek] Agreed we should post it preferably 2+ weeks in advance
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loqi.me created /opl (+31) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /POSSE (+42) "simplify dfn a bit, reduce jargon/formal terms, per feedback https://twitter.com/dying4badmusic/status/1290187910747049984" (view diff)
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GWG [tantek]: How are your Sundays?
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tantek.com edited /POSSE (+3) "had to re-read dfn a few times for a minor grammar fix" (view diff)
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[tantek] GWG, in a word, lazy. Though sometimes they are long-run Sunday rundays. Which can also be "lazy" at the appropriate pace.
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GWG I'll defer to you on the schedule then. I propose the 23rd.
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@RubygemsN indieweb-post_types-identifier-read (0.2.1): IndieWeb Read Post Type Discovery for Microformats 2 JSON. https://rubygems.org/gems/indieweb-post_types-identifier-read (twitter.com/_/status/1290357341498441728)
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[tantek] GWG, the 23rd could work
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[tantek] I'd also like to not overwhelm folks who want to participate in the pop-ups regularly
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[tantek] I think 2 a month is a good "target" to aim for, or roughly every two weeks
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[tantek] as a max that is
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[tantek] even one a month would be fine
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[tantek] what is a pop-up
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Loqi pop-up is a one-time event, like a one-time Homebrew Website Club at a new city or location, often to see how much interest there is before committing to a regular event https://indieweb.org/pop-up
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[tantek] ^ GWG that page looks quite minimal, could you add links to it to past/planned and potential IndieWebCamp pop-ups?
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GWG Not tonight...I have a wedding to go to.
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tantek.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (+5) "rm past camps, add IndieAuth pop-up, and hopeful IWS 2021" (view diff)
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GWG But yes in general
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GWG So, 23rd at what time then? That's two weeks from the IndieAuth one
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[tantek] will think about it. I updated /Sidebar a bit and want to link to /pop-up for more session planning in the future (whether camps or hwcs) so I'll wait for your update to /pop-up to do that
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[tantek] and yes I'm being optimistic about Summit 2021. What are others's thoughts?
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[tantek] what is 2021
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Loqi The IndieWebCamp community is planning numerous upcoming events, including future IndieWebCamps, regular Homebrew Website Club meetups, talks, and other proposals — if you'd like to help, please contribute to this page https://indieweb.org/2021
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GWG I think it is too early to count June 2021 out
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GWG I am still hoping for East
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aaronpk i'm still optimistic
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@RubygemsN indieweb-post_types-identifier-scrobble (0.2.1): IndieWeb Scrobble Post Type Discovery for Microformats 2 JSON. https://rubygems.org/gems/indieweb-post_types-identifier-scrobble (twitter.com/_/status/1290368719219126273)
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GWG Optimism is good
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aaronparecki.com edited /Internet_Archive (+152) "/* Trigger an Archive */" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /POSSE (+299) "link to syndication page; concatenated/cleaned up see also/related sections for parallelism; Sessions heading with aggregated and new session links" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /Category:syndication (+462) "camp sessions about syndication" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /tagline (+115) "see also: description; GWG quote from Austin" (view diff)
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Loqi [Event Updated] aaronparecki.com updated "Aug 8, 2020 9:30am IndieAuth 1.1 Identity Protocol Standards Session" changed description "expand description" https://events.indieweb.org/event/133/history/494/diff
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Loqi [Event Updated] boffosocko.com updated "Oct 2 - 5, 2020 ActivityPub Conference 2020" changed description "highlight IndieWeb specific/related talks" https://events.indieweb.org/event/106/history/495/diff
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[chrisaldrich] read << [https://learnawesome.org/ LearnAwesome] is an [[ActivityPub]] compliant equivalent of [[Goodreads]] built by [https://nilesh.trivedi.pw/ Nilesh Trivedi]. It’s a repository of learning resources (books, but also blogs, courses, podcasts, newsletters, livestreams etc).
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Loqi ok, I added "[https://learnawesome.org/ LearnAwesome] is an [[ActivityPub]] compliant equivalent of [[Goodreads]] built by [https://nilesh.trivedi.pw/ Nilesh Trivedi]. It’s a repository of learning resources (books, but also blogs, courses, podcasts, newsletters, livestreams etc)." to the "See Also" section of /read https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=71842&oldid=71607
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