#meta 2020-09-14

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tantek.com edited /Facebook (+162) "explicit How to leave Facebook section with aaronpk's post" (view diff)
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[chrisaldrich] Goodreads << Criticism: [https://pxlnv.com/linklog/goodreads-poor-social-network/ Amazon’s Goodreads Is a Poor Excuse for a Book-Based Social Network]
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism: [https://pxlnv.com/linklog/goodreads-poor-social-network/ Amazon’s Goodreads Is a Poor Excuse for a Book-Based Social Network]" to the "See Also" section of /Goodreads https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=72641&oldid=71709
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[tantek] what is The StoryGraph?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "The StoryGraph" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "The StoryGraph is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I am sure someone in IndieWeb dev channel might know a bit more. Feel free to stop by (twitter.com/_/status/1305306236531990528)
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[tantek] any experience with The StoryGraph [chrisaldrich] ?
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[chrisaldrich] Not yet, i'm reading the statesman article now, which has an extended story. I'll take a look at the "silo" shortly.
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[chrisaldrich] Goodreads << Criticism [https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/social-media/2020/08/better-goodreads-possible-bad-for-books-storygraph-amazon Why Goodreads is bad for books] in NewStatesman
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism [https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/social-media/2020/08/better-goodreads-possible-bad-for-books-storygraph-amazon Why Goodreads is bad for books] in NewStatesman" to the "See Also" section of /Goodreads https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=72642&oldid=72641
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[jeremycherfas] The description of The Storygraph and how it works does make it sound enticing. And the two prime pain points she cites for users of Goodreads fit me 100%
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[chrisaldrich] The tough part for me is that StoryGraph sounds like yet-another-silo that is more likely than not to be bought out by Amazon or some similar player and repeat the same mistakes all over again.
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@calum_ryan Join us Wednesday from 7pm UK time for Homebrew Website Club Europe/London online https://events.indieweb.org/2020/09/online-homebrew-website-club-europe-london-TDLtXJn3Febu https://calumryan.com/notes/3553 (twitter.com/_/status/1305434018385723393)
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jamesg.app edited /web_hosting (+532) "/* Static domain hosting */" (view diff)
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@aboutRSS 根据阅读器里的 OPML 制作 Blogroll 并自动更新 a #Thread 1/3 #Blogroll 虽然是 Indieweb 里的一个概念 https://indieweb.org/blogroll 但说白了就是单独页面的博客友链，博主一般是手动维护。 (twitter.com/_/status/1305447935669202944)
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petermolnar huh
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Wow that is awesome if you wanna share your story feel free to add it to our wiki: https://indieweb.org/silo-quits I can help you get signed on if you need it. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/CjJSX) (twitter.com/_/status/1305514086466191361)
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[tantek] Loqi, where is HWC this week?
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Loqi [Event Updated] tantek.com updated "Sep 16, 2020 6:30pm Homebrew Website Club West Coast" changed start_time, meeting_url, description "starting later to accomodate the The Social Dilemma discussion session" https://events.indieweb.org/event/146/history/592/diff
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+0) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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@heyenjoyhq Autonomy Online: A Case For The IndieWeb https://smashingmagazine.com/2020/08/autonomy-online-indieweb/?utm_campaign=meetedgar&utm_medium=social&utm_source=meetedgar.com (twitter.com/_/status/1305567214490341377)
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[jgmac1106] going to invite all the kids to East. We can't make it official part of camp for legal reasons around background checks
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[jgmac1106] [chrisaldrich] looking at the date you note Save the Date...is that in our planning...this is still tentative or official?
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[jgmac1106] I will of course run the family track
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[chrisaldrich] It's official. I've started pages for it at /2020/East.
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[chrisaldrich] Obviously there's still planning and work to do...
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[schmarty] chrisaldrich++ !
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Loqi chrisaldrich has 22 karma in this channel over the last year (68 in all channels)
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[schmarty] closes the /Planning tab that i'd had open for months 😬
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GWG [schmarty]: Can we count you in?
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[schmarty] yes! at least as an attendee! for planning / volunteering: probably but idk!
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GWG [schmarty]: Attending is my goal
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GWG Fortunately, less is required at remote events...although there is still a lot...venue is not an issue
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[chrisaldrich] GWG, did you set up the https://2020.indieweb.org/east equivalent site for West and Tito integration last time? Mind doing it again in the next week or so?
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Yes, originally I wasn't going to, but [tantek] pointed out that Meetable can't show ti.to RSVPs
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[chrisaldrich] Since the https://2020.indieweb.org/east could show all the RSVPs, should that be the canonical place to have them until Meetable can?
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[chrisaldrich] what is meetable?
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Loqi Meetable is an IndieWeb friendly open source events aggregator that is used for the IndieWeb events site at https://events.indieweb.org https://indieweb.org/Meetable
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[chrisaldrich] I presume we want to eventually have Meetable be the canonical version of the landing page for everything so we don't have to maintain the non-DRY separate site?
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[tantek] Also the 2020.indieweb.org site has a more "formally organized event" presentation (and customizability) as opposed to the "casual meetup" presentation of Meetable
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Meetable won't have that built in according to aaronpk, but he said something about possibly adding the option for an embed
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[tantek] so we should stick with it for IWC / IWS
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GWG [tantek]: I agree, you made a good argument for it
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GWG I'll take care of ti.to this week and the site
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GWG I hopefully can remember how I did it last time
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[chrisaldrich] I do like tantek's point and meetable has the ability to point to the 2020 site(s) to push RSVPs there.
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[chrisaldrich] Does having credentials for the IWC Zoom also grant password access to the Tito set up or does one need separate set up for that?
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[chrisaldrich] I'll also throw it out there now for some advance preparation, but I'll tentatively propose an organizers' meetup sometime that week prior to IWC East now.
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[chrisaldrich] We could do it on the traditional Friday timeslot, but if others have potential conflicts we could always do it at an alternate day/time sometime that week prior.
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: You need to have a ti.to account to link in, I think
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[tantek] when is IWC East?
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Loqi what
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[tantek] ok then
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[tantek] what is 2020/East
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Loqi IndieWebCamp East Coast is an online IndieWebCamp November 14-15, 2020; the second 100% online IndieWebCamp. It is based on Eastern Time Zone hours in the Americas https://indieweb.org/2020/East
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Loqi [github] Pull request opened by tantek: https://github.com/indieweb/2020.indieweb.org/pull/49
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[tantek] GWG ^ updating the 2020 home page is a start
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GWG If I can review on my phone, I will...still have some work to do
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GWG Done
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@frankmeeuwsen ↩️ In de indieweb chat wordt er best wat gesproken over de documentaire. En passant worden dan nog nieuwe bronnen gedeeld. Zoals deze, lijkt me iets voor jou Marco. Doe jij een samenvatting maken? ;-) https://academic.oup.com/hcr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/hcr/hqz022/5840447?guestAccessKey=e1548abf-a0ae-469a-98f5-a9a04b0b769e (twitter.com/_/status/1305599015682281475)
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Loqi [github] Pull request merged by tantek: https://github.com/indieweb/2020.indieweb.org/pull/49
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed indieweb/2020.indieweb.org to https://2020.indieweb.org
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[tantek] ^ [chrisaldrich] ok IWC East is on the home page (needed some additional cleanup anyway).
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[tantek] are you able to get started with making 2020.indieweb.org/east or do you need help with that?
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[chrisaldrich] GWG said he'd take a crack at it. Hopefully between us we can figure it out.
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[tantek] sounds good. happy to review any pulls for that kind of thing
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@ChrisAldrich I watched @SocialDilemma_ last night on Netflix. It makes me glad the next IndieWebCamp is scheduled for mid-November to help people reclaim their online identity, data, and attention from toxic corporate social media silos. (https://boffosocko.com/2020/09/14/55776751/) https://boffosocko.com/2020/09/13/indiewebcamp-east-2020-save-the-date-and-call-for-volunteers/ (twitter.com/_/status/1305619495583494144)
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[tantek] lol [chrisaldrich] with a post like that, I hope you're working on getting the Tito up & running so folks can sign-up! Wednesday morning would be a good goal so we can test it out before announcing to folks at HWC and the TSD Q&A that night!
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GWG [tantek]: I'll handle ti.to. I did it last time and I think I can get it up and running soon
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[tantek] Sounds good
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Should I put the Friday Pre-Event Dinner as an activity this time, or add activities later?
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GWG Okay, ti.to page live https://ti.to/indiewebcamp/iwc-east-2020
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GWG Now to figure out the rest.
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GWG I don't think I did the 2020.indieweb.org page last time. I think [tantek] did.
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GWG I'll figure it out.
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Loqi [github] Pull request opened by dshanske: https://github.com/indieweb/2020.indieweb.org/pull/50
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GWG [tantek]: Your turn. https://github.com/indieweb/2020.indieweb.org/pull/50
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Loqi [dshanske] #50 East 2020 Event
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[tantek] back to you GWG
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GWG Changes made. Approve?
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[tantek] :thumbsup_all:
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Loqi [github] Pull request merged by dshanske: https://github.com/indieweb/2020.indieweb.org/pull/50
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed indieweb/2020.indieweb.org to https://2020.indieweb.org
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GWG Okay, https://2020.indieweb.org/east is live
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Loqi IndieWebCamp East
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