#meta 2020-09-15
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Stay Tuned #IndieWeb Community planning Second Screen screening party for Social Dilemma soon.
IMO no dilemma anymore. If you use Facebook property you support racism & undermining of US democracy.
#edtechchat (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/ByX20) (twitter.com/_/status/1305672469425070081)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ And like most movement work, they'll end up absorbing these funds and not groups like SSB, the Open Web Working Group, IndieWeb, etc that does something that's rare - center PEOPLE at technology and not advertisers or some human-into-digital-cattle landscape. (twitter.com/_/status/1305682644038868992)
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[tantek] Jacky, https://twitter.com/zeynep is another person that comes to mind
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[chrisaldrich] danah boyd and the good folks at Data & Society put out some interesting research and work in that area too https://datasociety.net/people/
# [chrisaldrich] I've also got a special twitter account set up to follow https://twitter.com/hypervisible who has some fantastic research as well.
# [chrisaldrich] Our friend https://twitter.com/audreywatters is the doyenne of surveillance and evil tech with the the education space who fits in to that space as well.
# [chrisaldrich] who's got others?
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jacky https://twitter.com/helveticade is someone else I'd add into this convo
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[Ana_Rodrigues] jacky++ 💯 thank you for your thread.
# [James_Gallaghe] [jgmac1106] ++ on the summary of there not being a “dilemma”.
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[jgmac1106] Chrisaldrich, tantek got a lotta interest about a second screen viewing party for Social Dilemma from edtech types. Will start a page to land on date
# [James_Gallaghe] Would there be any interest in a UK/Europe-friendly second screening of the Social Dilemma?
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# [jgmac1106] I am East Coast USA so we can line up with EU and let Pacific do their own thing
# [James_Gallaghe] HWC is on Wednesday but maybe we could do something later in the week for EU/East Coast times?
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@derhess ↩️ Hi @sl007 , vielleicht ist das eine interessante Förderung für das @indiewebcamp oder #activitypub community?! Vielleicht ist die Förderung teilenswert auf deren Community kanälen? Was meint ihr @jkphl @HeNeArXn @sebastiangreger @pfefferle ? (twitter.com/_/status/1305830243870142471)
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# [jgmac1106] for the screening would like some time to promote as well, maybe two weeks?
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# [James_Gallaghe] I agree.
# [James_Gallaghe] What is the precedent for scheduling a community event?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "precedent for scheduling a community event" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "precedent for scheduling a community event is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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# Loqi Homebrew Website Club is a growing world-wide network of meetups for everyone who wants to take back their web experience from social media silos, and own their online identities & content, or just want support with blogging! https://indieweb.org/hwc
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@JamieTanna Reminder that it's #HomebrewWebsiteClub Nottingham tomorrow! I hope to see you there at 1730 for some website stuff - it'll be the last non-#Hacktoberfest themed one until November! https://events.indieweb.org/2020/09/homebrew-website-club-nottingham-4BIUc3geqfW0 (https://www.jvt.me/mf2/2020/09/yykpr/) (twitter.com/_/status/1305897583961935872)
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@ModernRetroMe IndieWeb Untangled by Khürt Williams #indieweb https://islandinthenet.com/indieweb-untangled/ via @khurtwilliams (twitter.com/_/status/1305854060000673794)
# @ModernRetroMe Bridging the Indieweb and the Fediverse with Bridgy Fed, part 2 #indieweb https://doubleloop.net/2019/05/04/bridging-the-indieweb-and-the-fediverse-part-2/ via @loopdouble_test (twitter.com/_/status/1305718137430716422)
# @ModernRetroMe Independent Web is Greater Than The Indieweb #indieweb https://ramblinggit.com/2019/02/22/independent-web-is.html via @bradenslen (twitter.com/_/status/1305129141482782727)
# @ModernRetroMe Island in the NetAn Indieweb Podcast: Episode 4 “Webmentions and Privacy” #indieweb https://islandinthenet.com/indieweb-podcast-episode-4-webmentions-privacy/ via @khurtwilliams (twitter.com/_/status/1304993269470945280)
# @ModernRetroMe IndieWeb Sharing with iOS Shortcuts | #indieweb https://mrkapowski.com/2019/07/indieweb-sharing-with-ios-shortcuts.html (twitter.com/_/status/1304268502044467200)
# @ModernRetroMe Indieweb slowly feeling like a social network - doubleloop #indieweb https://doubleloop.net/2019/06/09/indieweb-slowly-feeling-like-a-social-network/ via @loopdouble_test (twitter.com/_/status/1304132609803513861)
# @ModernRetroMe Going to IndieWeb Summit – Upon 2020 #indieweb https://upon2020.com/blog/2019/06/going-to-indieweb-summit-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1303996677783728128)
# @ModernRetroMe Why I'm supporting the IndieWeb (and you should too) - marketgoo #indieweb https://www.marketgoo.com/2019/04/30/why-support-indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/1303679604931080193)
# @ModernRetroMe Ideas for IndieWeb-ifying http://Hypothes.is #indieweb https://boffosocko.com/2019/04/08/ideas-for-indieweb-ifying-hypothes-is/ (twitter.com/_/status/1303543708822859776)
# @ModernRetroMe Marking up Drupal's Blog Posts for the IndieWeb | Agaric #indieweb https://agaric.coop/blog/marking-drupals-blog-posts-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1303407897959960590)
# @ModernRetroMe Liked: #IndieWeb and #WordPress at WordCamp Riverside 2018 | Liked: #IndieWeb and #WordPress at WordCamp Riverside… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1302954901820108811 (twitter.com/_/status/1302954901820108811)
# @ModernRetroMe IndieWeb Generation 4 and Hosted Domains #indieweb https://mjtsai.com/blog/2018/04/11/indieweb-generation-4-and-hosted-domains/ (twitter.com/_/status/1302818918474690561)
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petermolnar_ wth
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "The Social Dilemma" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "The Social Dilemma is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [tantek] The Social Dilemma is a 2020 [[Netflix]] docudrama that is critical of [[social media]] silos, and their use [[recommendation engine]]s in [[algorithmic feed]]s to create more and more addictive behaviors by their users to maximize their [[advertising]] business models, though presented from the viewpoint of former employees of those [[silos]] who have since turned into critics, without mentioning long-standing critical activists or
# [tantek] The Social Dilemma << Criticism thread: https://twitter.com/Pranavmalhotra8/status/1305226355529797633 and Threadreader roll-up: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1305226355529797633.html
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@Pranavmalhotra8 Okay, so I watched #TheSocialDilemma last night and some elements of it really annoyed me and I’m still thinking about them. So, here’s a thread. (1/12) (twitter.com/_/status/1305226355529797633)
# [tantek] The Social Dilemma is a 2020 [[Netflix]] docudrama that is critical of [[social media]] silos, and their use [[recommendation engine]]s in [[algorithmic feed]]s to create more and more addictive behaviors by their users to maximize their [[advertising]] business models, though presented from the viewpoint of former employees of those [[silos]] who have since turned into critics, without mentioning long-standing critical activists.
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[schmarty] what is Social Dilemma?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Social Dilemma" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Social Dilemma is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [schmarty] (thought it might be the "the")
# [schmarty] ha oh, apparently it was the "the" but i didn't understand it correctly 🤷
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loqi.me created /Social_Dilemma (+31) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
# [tantek] The Social Dilemma << Criticism thread: https://twitter.com/Pranavmalhotra8/status/1305226355529797633 and Threadreader roll-up: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1305226355529797633.html
# @Pranavmalhotra8 Okay, so I watched #TheSocialDilemma last night and some elements of it really annoyed me and I’m still thinking about them. So, here’s a thread. (1/12) (twitter.com/_/status/1305226355529797633)
# Loqi ok, I added "Criticism thread: https://twitter.com/Pranavmalhotra8/status/1305226355529797633 and Threadreader roll-up: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1305226355529797633.html" to a brand new "See Also" section of /The_Social_Dilemma https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=72657&oldid=72655
# loqi.me edited /The_Social_Dilemma (+439) "[tantek] added "Criticism thread: https://twitter.com/Pranavmalhotra8/status/1305226355529797633 and Threadreader roll-up: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1305226355529797633.html" to "See Also"" (view diff)
# [tantek] jacky, I think your criticisms are good too, if you feel like it, feel free to add to https://indieweb.org/The_Social_Dilemma accordingly!
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@sitnikcode ↩️ This is why we need IndieWeb and not monopolies (twitter.com/_/status/1305933905195864067)
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# [James_Gallaghe] [Chaitanya]++ for the wiki edits.
# [chrisaldrich] For those who are interested in it, I've got a Twitter list entitled "Weapons of Math Destruction" with some of the algorithm researchers we discussed last night: https://twitter.com/i/lists/1010551266714443782. It's got everyone but @hypervisible on it (apparently I've been blocked--thus my maintenance of a separate account just for him)
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[Chaitanya] [chrisaldrich]++
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tantek.com edited /The_Social_Dilemma (-421) "reference Wikipedia for at least some of the encyclopedic content" (view diff)
# petermolnar The Social Dilemma << https://conversationalist.org/2020/03/05/the-prodigal-techbro/
# Loqi ok, I added "https://conversationalist.org/2020/03/05/the-prodigal-techbro/" to the "See Also" section of /The_Social_Dilemma https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=72660&oldid=72659
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# loqi.me created /colour_palette (+26) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
# Loqi [New Event] boffosocko.com created "Oct 1, 2020 9:30am Webmention + Next.js (with Monica Powell)" https://events.indieweb.org/0x46cjX3F2bn
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# [jgmac1106] Weapons of Math Destruction I love that book
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@mantonsblog From the IndieWeb chat: Tantek Çelik suggests “Blocktober”. Block the big social networks in October. Maybe you can’t quit Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube forever, but you can do it for a month. https://chat.indieweb.org/2020-09-13/1600035511205600 (twitter.com/_/status/1305983204281769986)
# Loqi [github] Pull request opened by tantek: https://github.com/indieweb/spec.indieweb.org/pull/10
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