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2020-11-14 UTC
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@kevinmarks This is an #indieweb inspiration story (twitter.com/_/status/1327403268163727363)
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[chrisaldrich] tantek, I actually thought about that for /poetry, but didn't have the bandwidth this afternoon. Hopefully we'll have a session tomorrow and we'll fix it on Sunday??
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Red usually
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@coreload I'm not sure why RSS/Atom is insufficient for pretty much all social updates. IndieWeb tech is certainly more convoluted without obvious benefits. (twitter.com/_/status/1327415487211323393)
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GWG Zoom room awaits
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@jeremyfelt Attending my first (!) online conference tomorrow at 6AM on a Saturday and very much looking forward to it ☕️ https://2020.indieweb.org/east (twitter.com/_/status/1327424363356770304)
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@coreload ↩️ I stated my opinion. I'm not sure why RSS/Atom are insufficient when I see how many more moving parts are involved in IndieWeb. I'm not concerned with how that "looks". That's how I want it to look. If you give me better feedback than simply suggesting i go all in, that's welcome (twitter.com/_/status/1327425419453186048)
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[tantek] oh boy
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@coreload ↩️ Okay now we're getting somewhere. Likes I can do without. Some kind of support for discussion feedback is worth having, whether something from IndieWeb, or building off the original ping back servers, or a disqus-like thing. Yes, something beyond RSS/Atom but maybe not instead of (twitter.com/_/status/1327429632325423104)
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@felixplesoianu And another one bites the dust: https://kevq.uk/removing-support-for-the-indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/1327508077424283648)
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@by_caballero ↩️ Rss was a subscription model and it was euthanized by a standards mishap and the usual adtech/web standards malcreants. #indieweb twitter was real sad about it. (twitter.com/_/status/1327524794267553795)
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@sl007 Esteemed Followers, sorry! I forgot if you are more into the federated social web or tinkering on websites, so: Why not both? #activitypub Social CG meeting 16:00 UTC https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/2020-11-14-meeting/1128 #indieweb IndieWebCamp East SAT/SUN https://2020.indieweb.org/east (twitter.com/_/status/1327527533433282560)
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@t73fde reads: "Removing Support For The IndieWeb" https://kevq.uk/removing-support-for-the-indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/1327563103400316930)
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@jgmac1106 Getting excited for #IndieWeb 2020 East this weekend. Gonna be talking poetry and personal websites: https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?oldid=73278&rcid=73160 Join us. Always full of special characters. (twitter.com/_/status/1327569959959093250)
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[jgmac1106] thx Chris one thing I struggle with is titles, I write poems with no titles and they are notes but then if I go back and republish I may often add a title making it an article....In the end people know its just a poem
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@sl007 ↩️ Hm, um 15 Uhr bis So. https://2020.indieweb.org/east - oder lasst uns doch mal was zu #activitypub am Niederrhein machen, also erstmal nukular-virtuell und dann in Moers (?) Co-Organisierer https://conf.activitypub.rocks hier (40+ videos) Um 17 Uhr https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/2020-11-14-meeting/1128 (twitter.com/_/status/1327573732001538050)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Yeah it is free and streaming all weekend. You can find out more here: https://events.indieweb.org/2020/11/indiewebcamp-east-2020-ShBaD3gD6Df0 (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/Y5tdM) (twitter.com/_/status/1327575722400116738)
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@jgmac1106 Not sure what I will build for #IndieWebCamp maybe finally rebuild a jukebox and get all my music back online. I think #OwnYourMedia as important as #OwnYourData asit helps to feed artists. (twitter.com/_/status/1327579486439829505)
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[jgmac1106] gwg if you are around can you check on the 1am start time on the Zoom link confusing people
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GWG Odd. I have 9AM Eastern, 6AM Pacific
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GWG The room is on now, regardless
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GWG https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89519992508?pwd=SzZUVFZFOFc4dmFEdmNDanlFeTJFZz09
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Zegnat Just a heads up: I am going to try to be around a lot in the chats, but I probably am unavailable to join in time for the Keynotes. Will someone be scribing notes during those?
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GWG Zegnat: I'm sure we can find someone
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Zegnat Cool! Would love to skim on my phone. Hope to make it intime for the planning session :D
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Loqi [Event Updated] boffosocko.com updated "Nov 14 - 15, 2020 IndieWebCamp East 2020" changed meeting_url https://events.indieweb.org/event/164/history/662/diff
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@ChrisAldrich We’re up an running for the first day of IndieWebCamp East https://indieweb.org/2020/East (https://boffosocko.com/?p=55780982) (twitter.com/_/status/1327620608172167169)
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maxwelljoslyn GWG I had ot leave and rejoin Zoom, fixing mic. Could you please re-grant the mod power
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maxwelljoslyn sweet, thanks
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@jgmac1106 David Dylan Thomas about to give the keynote at #IndieWeb Camp on Designing for Cognitive Bias…. (twitter.com/_/status/1327630273534701569)
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@scott_gruber IndieWebCamp East 2020: https://scottgruber.me/2020/11/14/indiewebcamp-east-2020 (twitter.com/_/status/1327629877336535041)
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@simonw ↩️ I'm at IndieWebCamp East today, planning to host a session about personal data warehouses https://indieweb.org/2020/East (twitter.com/_/status/1327633257869889539)
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@t attending #IndieWebCamp East today & tomorrow! Great first keynote by David Dylan Thomas (@movie_pundit)! Up next, Sarah Hibner (@practicing_dsgn) Grab a complimentary ticket at https://2020.indieweb.org/east and join us in Zoom & online chat: https://tantek.com/t59f1 (twitter.com/_/status/1327639439045062659)
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@scott_gruber Listening to @0uter0uterspace “Intro to Variable Fonts” keynote @indiewebcamp: https://scottgruber.me/2020/11/14/listening-to-0uter0uterspace-intro-to-variable-fonts-keynote-indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/1327642061345087489)
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petermolnar I know the intros are important, maybe more, than ever, given the remote nature, but the session proposals should have started 30 minutes ago
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@miklb Saw a reference to Ushahidi in a demo @indiewebcamp that took me down a rabbit hole thinking about @blogorlando and the key note speaker. Which led me to this awesome photo by @markjaquith of @ringmaster https://flic.kr/p/5r6oud (twitter.com/_/status/1327666458441228288)
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[jgmac1106] nice to see you hanging around Mike
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Loqi [Event Updated] calumryan.com updated "Nov 25, 2020 7:00pm ONLINE: Homebrew Website Club Europe/London" changed description, tags "BST to GMT" https://events.indieweb.org/event/176/history/663/diff
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Zegnat GWG were you about to voluntell me? :P
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@0uter0uterSpace Earlier this morning I presented an intro to variable fonts at #IndieWeb Camp East 2020! I built a web page that summarizes my talk, check it out at http://outer-outer.space/intro-to-variable-fonts/ (twitter.com/_/status/1327683032824770560)
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Zegnat Happy to do the schedule, btw, GWG / [chrisaldrich]. If nobody else is already editing the wiki. Because wiki conflicts suck
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maxwelljoslyn Sorry was trying to help out with the schedule grid, but god, the wiki synax really gives no help whatsoeer wit understanding where you are inside the grid ...
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lahacker lol
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lahacker who was tasked to do it?
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Zegnat It really does not, maxwelljoslyn
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Zegnat I can get it fixed, just a minute
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lahacker i think chris is doing it
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lahacker only one person needs to wikify or.. collisions
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maxwelljoslyn one of many many ways that computer interfaces are sooooooo far behind wher they could be, like unbelievably so lol
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maxwelljoslyn "hey computer, I have a grid. i want to edit it in place." sure, have fun scrolling an array of structures
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Zegnat I think that is it: [chrisaldrich] GWG ^^^
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sknebel making a drag-and-drop thing for wiki tables is in that annoying "would be cool but don't need it that often" spot in https://xkcd.com/1205/ :P
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Loqi [XKCD] Is It Worth the Time? https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/is_it_worth_the_time_2x.png
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Zegnat Ah, forgot the hashtags, because they did not seem to be in the etherpad, give me one more minute
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maxwelljoslyn No need even for drag and drop. One could add a clickable button at top right of table, or other strategic points on the page, which sends you into the editor right there (see what Wikipedia does with "edit this section" - not just one "edit" at top of page0
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maxwelljoslyn )
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Zegnat ... are you adding the hashtags now GWG?
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Zegnat Whelp, I will pull back, looks like organisers on it
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maxwelljoslyn fastest Chris in the West
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maxwelljoslyn fastest Gwg in the East
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Zegnat Should have probably done a better job calling out a specific wiki editor. I'll make sure to volunteer specifically next time round
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Zegnat Also note for future camp thinking: lets keep reminding ourselves of using short titles or easy hashtags to make this process smoother
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sknebel Zegnat++ for wikistuffs
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[tantek] coming back and the main event Zoom seems shutdown?
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[tantek] when I try to join from https://events.indieweb.org/2020/11/indiewebcamp-east-2020-ShBaD3gD6Df0 it says "This meeting is scheduled for 11/13/2020 / Eat Your Own Cooking Pre Party" which is odd because that linked worked this morning!
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Loqi LIVE NOW: IndieWebCamp East 2020
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[tantek] GWG, [chrisaldrich] can you fix the Zoom link on https://events.indieweb.org/2020/11/indiewebcamp-east-2020-ShBaD3gD6Df0 to work again?
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Loqi LIVE NOW: IndieWebCamp East 2020
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[chrisaldrich] GWG, I've updated it to link to the red room ^^
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Loqi [Event Updated] boffosocko.com updated "Nov 14 - 15, 2020 IndieWebCamp East 2020" changed meeting_url "updated link for red room" https://events.indieweb.org/event/164/history/664/diff
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich]
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[chrisaldrich] ?? hopefully it works...
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[tantek] ugh annoying Slack too slow to properly parse my key strokes and ignored everything after auto-completing [chrisaldrich]
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[tantek] let me try that again
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich]++ thank you!
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[chrisaldrich] 🙂
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@carolak I am attending the IndieWebCamp. Lots of fun learning with this wonderful group of people, so much generosity and so much knowledge and insights! #OpenWeb https://2020.indieweb.org/east (twitter.com/_/status/1327738492466704384)
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GWG_ Hmm...Indieweb East Meets West should be next.
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