#meta 2020-12-05
2020-12-05 UTC
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[chrisaldrich] I take some of tantek's point about the maintainability of categories, though often I find them to be more useful than not. Some of it comes down to the design of the pages on which they would generally appear, how, how they're documented and how others use them.
# [chrisaldrich] On a page like /2020-12-indieweb-gift-calendar it's most likely that someone next year will simply cut and paste the 2020 version and just change the URL. If that happens, then it will have the correct category tag that will automatically update all the links on the prior years.
# [chrisaldrich] Generally for camps and sessions we're doing that same sort of cut/paste so the process moves forward and things are included properly...
# [chrisaldrich] things like https://indieweb.org/Micropub#Sessions, while useful require just about as much manual labor either way, though we could better design the default text in the etherpad to encourage better categorization. MediaWiki could also do a better job of adding a UI element to indicate that trees aren't necessarily complete.
# [chrisaldrich] Of course, I also think that the small "What Links Here" text in the sidebar would be better displayed at the bottom of pages in the See Also sections too. That's essentially displaying self-webmentions of pages on the wiki to frame it in indieweb terms... Of course that's beyond my skill level at present.
# [chrisaldrich] For instances like /Micropub#Sessions, usually on topics I'm most interested in, I'll manually hunt down sessions and then add in some (hidden) comments in the page the last date of the manual search to assist future updaters to know where they might continue the search/addition for the future. Perhaps showing this text on the final lines where we typically have ellipses may be a useful help as well to make their incompleteness even more
# [chrisaldrich] explicit?
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Loqi ok, I added "https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/product/2017/rethinking-our-default-profile-photo.html" to a brand new "See Also" section of /default_icon https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=73886&oldid=73885
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loqi.me edited /default_icon (+112) "[chrisaldrich] added "https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/product/2017/rethinking-our-default-profile-photo.html" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /default_icon (+70) "/* See Also */ cross links to related wiki pages" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /default_icon (+868) "dfn include silo accounts without photos, add IndieWeb and Silo examples, avoid duplicating icon's see also links" (view diff)
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# tantek.com edited /2020-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+22) "12/4 new page with documentation and examples both IndieWeb and Silo!" (view diff)
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[tantek] Would you consider capturing that on /wikify#Brainstorming ?
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ohhelloana.blog edited /discuss (+379) "Expand on user-centric guidelines to include a list of words to avoid when explaining technical things" (view diff)
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@drhitchcocknz @DailyDevTips1 how do I like your articles via #webmentions? I do have some #indieweb goodness setup on my personal site. (twitter.com/_/status/1335306968802578432)
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# [chrisaldrich] Do tell GWG
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# maxwelljoslyn hm, GWG already has hat, mask, flag, presumably has shirts ... IWC socks? :D
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petermolnar [Ana_Rodrigues], [tantek]: I'm not completely on board with that update; as I said during that discussion, the world "relative" is a significant context. "Relatively simple" is not person centric, it's inertia system centric, and it can - usually is - without malice.
# petermolnar I admit that "that's simple" on the other hand, is not a good phrase.
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# [tw2113_Slack_] claiming simplicity is typically good to remove from documentation-like resources, cause it's not guaranteed to be simple for everyone
