#meta 2021-01-08

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[tantek] yeah the only influx like that I've seen was in the "Decentralized Web Summit" Slack in 2018
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[tantek] it was pretty nasty
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[tantek] lots of frog memes etc.
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-01-08.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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@calum_ryan ↩️ http://IndieWeb.org and recommend reading this too https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2020/08/autonomy-online-indieweb#what-is-the-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1347478451431890952)
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petermolnar.net edited /metadata (+164) "/* See Also */" (view diff)
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@cwetzPAleen ↩️ http://indieweb.org The IndieWeb effort is different from previous efforts/communities: Principles over project-centrism. Others assume a monoculture of one project for all. We are developing a plurality of projects. The IndieWeb community has a code-of-conduct. (twitter.com/_/status/1347528384163692548)
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@cwetzPAleen ↩️ http://indieweb.org The IndieWeb effort is different from previous efforts/communities: Principles over project-centrism. Others assume a monoculture of one project for all. We are developing a plurality of projects. The IndieWeb community has a code-of-conduct. (twitter.com/_/status/1347528708546981892)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-01-08.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-01-08.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-01-08.html
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@benwerd ↩️ This is awesome! Take a look at some of the plugins and tools provided by the indieweb community, which helps turn your website into more of a social hub: https://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/1347596287735074816)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-01-08.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-01-08.html
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[tantek] Glad to see the differences resonate like that (and be short enough to be tweetable)
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[tantek] uh aaronpk checkout that seriously broken IndieNews item in the newsletter. starts with "Table of ContentsTLDRStreamlining"
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[tantek] [schmarty] I'm thinking a pop-up might be a good way to get the broader user-centric conversation started about the problem that Vouch is designed to solve one or some parts thereof. I don't have a name for that broader problem though
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[tantek] it's not just "fixing comments" for example, it's much more than that
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[tantek] it's more about "positive interactions" (though that seems too vague), or in a negative framing (which I dislike) : preventing spam, trolls and other unpleasantness
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[tantek] Enabling positive serendipity & discovery via our websites, and putting up barriers to spam, harassment, and other unpleasant social media interactions
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[tantek] GWG ^ figured you would have thoughts & opinions on this
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-01-08.html
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[tantek] maybe aaronpk and snarfed too, in as much these kinds of design concerns can be included in updates / features for webmentionio and bridgy
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[tantek] anyway, if anyone has a short & pithy way to name / describe this discussion topic, it would be appreciated!
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[schmarty] tantek: a pop-up feels like a good idea! a challenge would be to have over-represented and privileged folks step back to give space to folks that deal with online abuse in personal and professional ways.
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[tantek] agreed
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[tantek] might need to do more than one just to get the ball rolling and make it clear that such space is being made
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[schmarty] i feel like i have heard some good terms in this space but i can't recall them right now. best i have is "comment with consent" :}
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[tantek] part of this is that it's beyond comments, it's all the liking, retweeting, quote-tweeting etc.
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[schmarty] "responding with respect" 😂
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[tantek] nice
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[tantek] that might be a winner
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[tantek] Respectful Responses
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[schmarty] i like that wording ^^
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GWG [tantek]: I was working... I'm always in for a pop-up
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[tantek] I figured. ok drafting ...
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[tantek] drafting you to co-facilitate [schmarty] 🙂
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[schmarty] 😅
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tantek.com edited /2021/Pop-ups/Sessions (+1018) "propose a Respectful Responses stub, please help expand!" (view diff)
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[tantek] here you go, please expand (and add yourselves!) https://indieweb.org/2021/Pop-ups/Sessions#Respectful_Responses
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GWG [tantek]: When would you want to do it?
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GWG I'm itching for popping up
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[tantek] no idea. wanted to get it down as a topic for discussion since I think that's what's needed to make progress on the points that [schmarty] raised in the past days / weeks
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[tantek] feel free to edit the section to add ideas for dates
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[schmarty] in terms of weekends 1/23-24 is my next one with any big blocks of free time
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GWG [schmarty]: Can you add a +1 then?
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-01-08.html
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[schmarty] yep. lookin' for wiki markup examples of date proposal and voting for popups.
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GWG I think we used the markup we use voting for IWC dates
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martymcgui.re edited /2021/Pop-ups/Sessions (+456) "/* Respectful Responses */ initial date planning" (view diff)
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[schmarty] dates section added
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GWG [schmarty]: I look forward to attending
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[schmarty] tantek, gwg: please add your preferences when you get a chance!
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GWG Any weekend
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GWG I have no plans
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GWG I'll add it
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[schmarty] beyond this weekend and next it turns out i had no plans as well 🙈
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GWG [schmarty]: Now we will
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@kevinmarks ↩️ I can recommend a social reader https://indieweb.org/social_reader (twitter.com/_/status/1347622971012222978)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-01-08.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-01-08.html
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[tantek] [schmarty] dates depend on times for me, what rough timespan were you thinking?
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[schmarty] i made a short note at the top of the Dates section!
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[schmarty] didn't know what to start with but i saw a note from chrisaldrich about last years' working well Saturdays 10am US/Pacific
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tantek.com edited /2021/Pop-ups/Sessions (+76) "/* Respectful Responses */ yeah those dates work for me too" (view diff)
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[tantek] ok! and here I am not being helpful 🤷‍♂️
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[schmarty] Quarantimes 🤷‍♂️ 😂
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[chrisaldrich] [schmarty] that time seemed to work well for both the Americas as well as catching folks in the EU timezones, but really just kicking off the conversation to stub everything out in a conversation is the important piece. I'll go out of my way to make whatever time ends up being cemented.
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[schmarty] thanks chrisaldrich!!
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich] maybe add yourself to the interested section?
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boffosocko.com edited /2021/Pop-ups/Sessions (+157) "/* Respectful Responses */ +chrisaldrich" (view diff)
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[chrisaldrich] ^^ done 🙂
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gRegorLove I'm interested. Like everyone else, looks like any future date works XD
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-01-08.html
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[tantek] aaronpk is there a way to block/remove specific IndieNews items from the newsletter? that nonsense item is still there
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aaronpk i have to remove it from the database manually right now
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aaronpk i guess i could fix the title
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aaronpk well as long as they don't re-send the webmention it'll look right now
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-01-08.html
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-01-08.html (twitter.com/_/status/1347683261686771716)
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