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@nicklewis I am building a new blog with 11ty at the moment as I continue to explore the various JAMStack tools available to us developers. I am a big supporter of the #indieweb https://nicklewis.blog/notes/2021-01-11-second/ (twitter.com/_/status/1348783775279407105)
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david.shanske.com edited /game_play (+401) "/* IndieWeb Examples */" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /game_play (+0) "/* IndieWeb Examples */" (view diff)
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@Jason_Shew ↩️ ... data, you’d know these centralized social hubs are equally sinister. Embrace IndieWeb, the Open Web, or the next gen of the Internet. Other ways to reach out to me? You may want to see this page: http://hi.iiii.ca. (twitter.com/_/status/1348972305481916419)
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@frontend_weekly Indieweb: POSSE using Eleventy and Netlify Functions via Virga: https://virga.frontendweekly.tokyo/posts/indieweb-posse-using-eleventy-and-netlify-functions (twitter.com/_/status/1348977296850493446)
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@CodingItWrong Real missed opportunity that there isn't a biologist on the IndieWeb with a site called "Microbe Log" (twitter.com/_/status/1348977091036008450)
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[tantek] Hah! [manton] ^
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[fluffy] Oh, if only I still worked at the virus lab...
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[manton] Microbe Log is great. Haha.
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GWG [manton]: Hi.
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GWG Just nice to see you
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[manton] Hello! I’ve been mostly lurking lately especially with the holidays but probably have some IndieWeb things to catch up on this year.
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GWG Don't we all
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@nicklewis Hi friends of Twitter I am adding people to my Blogroll, yes remember those? You may be on it already but if you fancy it, please respond with a URL and a way you'd like to describe yourself. Many thank yous. #indieweb #blogroll #bloggers (twitter.com/_/status/1349033157371301890)
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[tantek] nice
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[tantek] what is a blogroll
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Loqi A blogroll is a list of other sites that you read, are a follower of, or recommend https://indieweb.org/blogroll
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[tantek] blogroll << Brainstorming: how to start or expand a blog roll, perhaps through [[replies]] or [[homepage]] webmentions? https://twitter.com/nicklewis/status/1349033157371301890
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@nicklewis Hi friends of Twitter I am adding people to my Blogroll, yes remember those? You may be on it already but if you fancy it, please respond with a URL and a way you'd like to describe yourself. Many thank yous. #indieweb #blogroll #bloggers (twitter.com/_/status/1349033157371301890)
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Loqi ok, I added "Brainstorming: how to start or expand a blog roll, perhaps through [[replies]] or [[homepage]] webmentions? https://twitter.com/nicklewis/status/1349033157371301890" to the "See Also" section of /blogroll https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=74237&oldid=73242
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[tantek] As we grow in number of active chat participants (and active chats) I think we should consider explicitly guiding "Good morning" or "How's it going" posts to the informal #indieweb-chat channel instead of the #indieweb channel or others. While informal and friendly (and appreciate the community-positive role it plays), doing so in logged channels adds unnecessary/inapplicable noise to the logs for anyone reading them later.
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[tantek] Thoughts?
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BudaDude[m] I had no idea indie-web chat exisited. Sorry for pinging everyone with that
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@frankmeeuwsen ↩️ Gebeurt allemaal automatisch dankzij het indieweb. Leuk toch! Zie je ook de likes en mentions? Dat kan met de Webmention plugin. Ik zal er eens een betere how-to over schrijven, gericht op het koppelen van tweets aan je blogposts. (twitter.com/_/status/1349050901814800386)
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[Murray] Being able to say "good morning" (and seeing others doing the same) does make it feel like a much safer space to intro yourself in if you're new; it creates a friendlier atmosphere than a channel devoted to spec and implementation-theory would. I can see the logic of moving that stuff to #indieweb-chat but I've always found those kinds of informal channels quite duanting to take part in, as they feel more cliquey (not necessarily specific to
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[Murray] here, just in general). Plus, for web access #indieweb is the default, so a lot of people find that (and only that) it seems. Just 2c 😄
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[Murray] Actually, to add to that, as someone who isn't that far into the weeds with indieweb stuff, I often find the more informal conversations that are sparked by simple "good mornings" or "what are people doing today" are really good for learning about what's out there 🙂
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[tantek] BudaDude[m] no worries at all! It's definitely a quite common thing and to be clear that was *not* directed at you specifically, and glad you're here 🙂
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[tantek] [Murray] very good points.
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[tantek] BudaDude[m] does this link/reference work for you? #indieweb-chat
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[tantek] I'm curious about the Slack -> IRC -> Matrix translation of channel names
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BudaDude[m] Nope, I don't see it in matrix.
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[tantek] In IRC it's # indieweb-chat
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BudaDude[m] uploaded an image: Screenshot-2021-01-12 at 11.09.36@2x.png (237KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/sFwVXaWfLHiIInGflLtnyLrR/Screenshot-2021-01-12 at 11.09.36@2x.png >
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[tantek] interesting, I wonder why the bridge didn't get setup for indieweb-chat. are channels archived in Matrix by default?
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GWG Our events page only has one event. We need to do something about this
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/discuss has links to matrix rooms IIRC
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BudaDude[m] Okay, I was able to join it by putting in `#freenode_#indieweb-chat:matrix.org`
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[tantek] GWG, back in the day (in-person HWCs) we would create a month's worth of HWCs in advance!
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GWG [tantek]: I was thinking about doing that
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GWG I'll commit to turning on the lights and putting out the chairs
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[tantek] yes!
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[tantek] GWG++
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Loqi GWG has 38 karma in this channel over the last year (154 in all channels)
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GWG [tantek]: Maybe a pop-up or two?
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tantek.com edited /discuss (+61) "/* Join Discussions */ subheads for linking" (view diff)
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[tantek] GWG I think a pop-up per month would be a good goal
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[tantek] as a start. obviously based on interest we can add more
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GWG January is nearly half done
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[tantek] yup, and we have a few pop-ups with proposed dates for the second half of January!
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GWG We need to get one over the finish line I guess
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[tantek] yup, we should decide on a minimum threshold for scheduling (number of people who +1 a specific date)
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GWG [tantek]: I think 3
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GWG Let's put respectful responses in. It has 3, 4 if I go in
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[tantek] add yourself! 🙂
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GWG [tantek]: As a facilitator, are you and [schmarty] prepared to pick a date?
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GWG I am free on all of them
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[tantek] I think that's why we had a challenge picking dates. I wonder if [schmarty] has any slight preferences
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[tantek] I can think of reasons to lean sooner or later
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[schmarty] as a procrastinator i want to lean later so we can try to have a "better" first session, with more time to prep, reach out to potentially interesting and interested participants and more
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GWG [schmarty]: How about the last weekend in January then?
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GWG Not too soon, not too long?
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[schmarty] but as a realist about my energy i prefer to lean sooner so we can do our best with what we have and use some of the popup time to decide together how to improve the _second_ popup
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GWG That's 18 days.
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[schmarty] i don't know that i'll really accomplish much with an extra week so i am good going a week earlier (Jan 23rd)
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[tantek] [schmarty] 😂 similarly. sooner means we potentially kick-off secondary progress sooner which could have positive effects sooner. Later means I can defer thinking about it for a while (brain a bit heavy with other items and current national events stresses)
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GWG Okay... January 23rd.
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GWG It's a lock then
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GWG We can add the event
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[schmarty] 🎉
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GWG I'll do it before my lunch is over
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Jan 20, 2021 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - The Americas" https://events.indieweb.org/1bgDRIE4fJmP
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Jan 27, 2021 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - The Americas" https://events.indieweb.org/zUKLiLNl7YxW
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GWG Okay. Event if on the calendar for the 23rd.
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GWG We can update the description
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GWG Also added two additional HWCs
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GWG Now the page doesn't look quite so empty
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Jan 23, 2021 1:00pm Respectful Responses" https://events.indieweb.org/SoijMaY9KH7P
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GWG [tantek]++
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Loqi [tantek] has 17 karma in this channel over the last year (77 in all channels)
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GWG [schmarty]++
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Loqi [schmarty] has 11 karma in this channel over the last year (48 in all channels)
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[tantek] What did I do?
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+372) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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@lavigi ↩️ The Indie Web concept of a few years ago. "IndieWeb" https://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/1349083737007546380)
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aaronpk ping
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Loqi pong
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[tantek] "of a few years ago" 😂
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[tantek] remember back when?
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[schmarty] "of a few years ago" probably means as far back as December tbh
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GWG [tantek]: Volunteer facilitator
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[tantek] co-facilitator yes
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@fluffy New post: fluffy rambles: Distributed toxicity and the IndieWeb https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/2316-Distributed-toxicity-and-the-IndieWeb #SocialMedia #Indieweb #Platforming #Politics #Rantle This tweet has been making the rounds in IndieWeb spaces, and reflects a thing I’ve been thinking about on and off lately for obvious … (twitter.com/_/status/1349126046604554241)
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[tantek] wonders if fluffy saw rhiaro's previous post (from years ago) on this topic
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[tantek] found it https://rhiaro.co.uk/2016/11/decentralisation-considered-harmful
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@kevinmarks ↩️ Come to http://chat.indieweb.org if you want to ask people about their implementations (twitter.com/_/status/1349141289346981892)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ What language are you using? There are several listed here: https://indieweb.org/Webmention-developer#Libraries (twitter.com/_/status/1349141058161143810)
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