#meta 2021-01-24

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boffosocko.com uploaded /File:content_warning_modal_for_cultural_advice.PNG "Screencapture of a modal or pop-up indicating the website may have content of a nature that may be culturally taboo or inappropriate for some viewers https://indieweb.org/File:content_warning_modal_for_cultural_advice.PNG"
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boffosocko.com edited /content_warning (+649) "Content warning exampe for cultural advice for indigenous peoples" (view diff)
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@bouyaki 昨年だったかindiewebのサイト見た時にはwebmentionとか面倒くさそうと思ったんだけど、いま思うところあって読んでいたら意外とイケそうな気がしてきた。 https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started (twitter.com/_/status/1353157395455696896)
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@Pauho I really like using the Omnibear for #indieweb on Chrome. The problem is, I don’t like using Chrome and only use it on my mini-Chromebook. I’m not a coder and so I’m a bit unclear on the legality and etiquette but is there anything stopping someone… https://pauho.net/?p=24424 (twitter.com/_/status/1353269657151664128)
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@ballpointcarrot ↩️ - easily self-hosted, so that you can own your own content - "networks" built by follow/subscription (kinda like how rss worked, but with better ux) - public content would be delivered to aggregation pools for discovery TL;DR: http://indieweb.org, basically. (twitter.com/_/status/1353388539262603264)
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@ChangelingMx Who needs a Twitter blue badge when I have verification from the #IndieWeb? The’s only one Changeling posting from The Starship Changeling. (twitter.com/_/status/1353417505948250114)
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@offrayLC ↩️ @DokuWiki is pretty awesome too. We used it a lot before (see http://holonica.net). As we are exploring decoupled CMS and static site generators powered by @pharoproject + Fossil, like Brea[1], TiddlyWiki without NodeJS seems a pretty good fit. [1] https://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/1353420091317235715)
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@ChrisWiegman ↩️ I’m not doing much with indieweb stuff anymore. So much of it was building its own silos. That said, I do like activitypub federation. (twitter.com/_/status/1353422990965415936)
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@courtneyengle ↩️ It's been a while since I dug in to work IndieWeb was doing. I need to get this week's lesson plans done, then add configuring all this to the personal backlog. Discovered it from an interview on http://TWiT.TV back in the day (twitter.com/_/status/1353422643278581766)
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jamietanna Did https://events.indieweb.org/2021/01/indiewebcamp-pop-up-session-respectful-responses-SoijMaY9KH7P get recorded? Would be nice to listen/watch the convo, but np if not, I can track through the Etherpad :)
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[tantek] yes it was recorded, I believe GWG has it
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GWG [tantek]: It's uploaded
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GWG I meant to ask who was archiving the Etherpad
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GWG https://archive.org/details/respectfulresponses-indiewebcamppopup2021
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GWG You get both the speaker or the gallery view
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[tantek] GWG, can you add the usual play text/graphic link/widget to the wiki page?
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[tantek] what is Respectful Responses
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Respectful Responses" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Respectful Responses is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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GWG [tantek]: That's why I didn't.
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GWG I wasn't sure who was archiving the Etherpad
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[tantek] huh? this has nothing to do with the Etherpad, that's a separate page
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[tantek] pop-up << 2021/Pop-ups
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Loqi ok, I added "[[2021/Pop-ups]]" to the "See Also" section of /pop-up https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=74346&oldid=71852
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GWG [tantek]: There's no wiki page for me to add the video to
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GWG We didn't create one.
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[tantek] sigh once again I'm lost in the maze of how pop-up wiki pages were organized
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich] I think we need a major restructuring / flattening (AKA regardening) of pop-up related wiki pages
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GWG [tantek]: We never finished that discussion
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[tantek] it's kind of an incomplete undiscoverable mess right now
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[tantek] GWG like why is 2021/Pop-ups/Sessions a separate page instead of just putting that content directly on 2021/Pop-ups ?
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[tantek] (clearly inherited from /2020/Pop-ups
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GWG I just copied 2020, which had that
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[tantek] )
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[tantek] yeah so we should fix the bad IA before it propagates any further
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GWG So, what is the top url? Should it remain as /2021/Pop-ups
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tantek.com edited /2020/Pop-up/Sessions (+105) "Don't use camelCase" (view diff)
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[tantek] GWG, there are a bunch of IA / naming 101 mistakes in the current pop-ups pages / instructions
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[tantek] like ^
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tantek.com edited /2020/Pop-up/Sessions (+66) "camelCase is only ok for single-word terms like IndieAuth, bold this" (view diff)
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[tantek] and like who is this for? this is so confusing: https://indieweb.org/Category:IWC_Pop-ups_2020_Organizing
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GWG I'll defer to the creator
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GWG But I know making it easier would help ne
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GWG me
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[tantek] would help all of us, and thus help actually create / fill out / complete the content
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[tantek] this is one of the reasons that categories usually suck, they make things too complicated for folks to easily help improve
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[tantek] (on a wiki)
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tantek.com edited /2021/Pop-ups/Sessions () "(-1641) /* Respectful Responses */ Done" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /2021/Pop-ups/Respectful-Responses (+1957) "create with content from sessions page to start with" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /Respectful_Responses (+47) "r" (view diff)
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[tantek] GWG, there you go, here's a wiki page for the session (which we should have created beforehand) https://indieweb.org/2021/Pop-ups/Respectful-Responses
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[tantek] we'll figure out gardening / repairing the 2020 Pop-up pages later
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[tantek] For now, you now have a place where you can put the recording
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[tantek] just like a session from any other IndieWebCamp
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GWG Okay. Will link in a few
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GWG Finishing up this code first
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[tantek] thank you
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tantek.com edited /2021/Pop-ups () "(-742) add explicit past sessions list, simplify a bunch: ditch separate "grid" bc there is no grid of pop-ups, ditch schedule bc we have meetable link, ditch demos bc not a separate pop-up, de-dup a ton of links" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2021/Pop-ups (+48) "/* Organizers */ add me & marty" (view diff)
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[tantek] !tell GWG,@chrisaldrich please compare /2021/Pop-ups (which I just heavily edited) and /2020/Pop-ups. This is the kind of simplification I'm talking about
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tantek.com edited /Template:IndieWebCamp (+119) "add Respectful-Responses, hopes for latter half of the year camps planning" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2021/Pop-ups/Respectful-Responses (+24) "attempt at a respectful responses emojicon" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2021/Pop-ups (+18) "camping tents are more ephemeral / light-weight for pop-ups than a circus tent" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2021/Pop-ups (-44) "organizing category is not really useful, as an organizer. more noise than signal" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2021/Pop-ups/Respectful-Responses (+94) "see also, camps" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2021/Pop-ups/Sessions (-30) "completed subsection" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (+2) "replace gift calendar with site commitments" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (-1) "try rewording" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (-4) "once again" (view diff)
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[tantek] good enough
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tantek.com edited /2021/Pop-ups/Respectful-Responses (+15977) "incorporate etherpad notes into a Notes subsection" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2021/Pop-ups/Respectful-Responses (+11) "link etherpad, after the fact. turns out we didn't use the hashtag for the etherpad afterall" (view diff)
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[tantek] GWG ^ etherpad archived also
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tantek.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (+1) "more readable" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2021/Pop-ups (+1) "/* Sponsors */ *" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2021/Pop-ups/Respectful-Responses (+108) "link event" (view diff)
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Loqi [Event Updated] tantek.com updated "Jan 23, 2021 10:00am IndieWebCamp Pop-Up Session: Respectful Responses" changed description "link wiki page instead of etherpad now that notes are archived" https://events.indieweb.org/event/202/history/728/diff
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[tantek] aaronpk ^ still confused about Meetable markdown support, does it not autolink plain http/https URLs? Pretty sure that's an expected part of markdown (instead of being forced to always use the totally forgettable hyperlink syntax)
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[tantek] this line at the end of the description is not auto-linked: Wiki page of archive notes etc: https://indieweb.org/2021/Pop-ups/Respectful-Responses
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aaronpk yeah i don't know why autolinking URLs isn't part of this markdown library either
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aaronpk https://github.com/michelf/php-markdown/issues/326
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aaronpk looks like that's a github markdown thing, not part of the "original" markdown
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Loqi [qwwwest] #326 Links are not automatically created
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[tantek] haha right, the old < link > syntax from ancient usenet / emails
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[tantek] confirmed
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Loqi [Event Updated] tantek.com updated "Jan 23, 2021 10:00am IndieWebCamp Pop-Up Session: Respectful Responses" changed description "try the classic old school < link > thing" https://events.indieweb.org/event/202/history/729/diff
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grimler32 be some science behind this
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grimler32 <penguin42> Time-Warp: It's the number of people who gain serious injuries from standing on pineapples
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@JeroenSangers ↩️ ¡Viva la Indieweb! (twitter.com/_/status/1353459558899830784)
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grimler32 Are there any T1me Travelers Or Al1ens Here Who can help me?
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GWG grimler32: With?
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grimler32 I need to warp my mind back to my younger self to relive my life
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GWG grimler32: Sorry, my time machine is in the shop.
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grimler32 GWG, what temporal location settings does it account for? When might you have it back?
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GWG Sorry, this room is for meta Indieweb discussions, I can answer in the off topic chat room if you want
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