#meta 2021-04-09

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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-04-09.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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carol.gg edited /Eleventy (+90) "/* See Also */" (view diff)
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@technottingham Want to know what the #IndieWeb is and how it helps you own your own data!?? Then join us online THIS MONDAY for a… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1380496385062109186 (twitter.com/_/status/1380496385062109186)
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@slsoftworks ↩️ /...and no, just a YouTube or Twitch live stream is not "the same" — although, if you wanted to take advantage of the extended reach of those platforms, there's nothing stopping you from *syndicating* (https://indieweb.org/POSSE) to them as an alternative, 'best of both worlds'/ (twitter.com/_/status/1380515826772680705)
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@boostmarks ↩️ Empower social networks users to read and share nuggets of content and create traction to the original piece, I guess. POSSE strategy. https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/1380534525453799430)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-04-09.html
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[tantek] ^ aaronpk do we have a way to delete indienews posts that are not indieweb specific (e.g. generic webdev posts)?
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aaronpk other than telling me to delete them no
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aaronpk it is gone
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tantek.com edited /static_site_generator (+28) "move PieCrust link from CMS (which it isn't) to here" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /content_management_system (+22) "summary quote tweet for section Use an existing CMS or write your own" (view diff)
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[tantek] no worries, we'll keep it manual on Fridays for the newsletter until it hurts 🙂
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aaronpk it's come up often enough at this point that i'm ready to find a better solution :)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-04-09.html
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ You may have missed my earlier reply: https://boffosocko.com/2020/04/17/gardens-and-streams-wikis-blogs-and-ui-a-pop-up-indiewebcamp-session/?replytocom=286110#respond (twitter.com/_/status/1380548541077090304)
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[tantek] hmm now we have no IndieNews posts and no new wiki pages! 😱
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[tantek] Loqi, what new page prompts went unanswered in the past week?
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-04-09.html
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[tantek] GWG, are there things you discovered this week that you wish were (better defined) on the wiki?
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[tantek] I feel you're particularly good at asking interesting open-ended questions
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loqi.me edited /geocoding (+92) "sknebel added "https://getlon.lat/ nice overview of (reverse) geocoding service options" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-04-09.html
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tantek.com edited /IoT (+223) "graphic / comic XKCD 1966, move critical see alsos to Criticism" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-04-09.html
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tantek.com edited /IoT (+171) "style, alt img" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-04-09.html
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GWG [tantek]: I was looking for a new registrar
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GWG We were also talking about more approachable protocol explanations on Wednesday
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GWG One of the attendees was essentially saying she didn't understand why she should want Micropub or Microsub
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-04-09.html
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[tantek] It shouldn't be about protocol explanations, it should be about IndieWeb uses, and how they're enabled by protocols
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[tantek] users shouldn't have to "want Micropub or Microsub"
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GWG [tantek]: That is a good explanation of what we wanted to do to address
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GWG We need to surface that better
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GWG Many of our explanations are too protocol specific
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-04-09.html
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[tantek] GWG, take a look at the /reader page for an example of where to start an explanation
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-04-09.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-04-09.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-04-09.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-04-09.html
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[KevinMarks] were you going to make /misinformation or /disinformation ?
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-04-09.html
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jacky this is one of those moments where I do think the homepage could help with "here's why/what you could do in the IndieWeb bits" in a sort of salesy way
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[tantek] jacky, for which audience?
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] I couldn't come up with an easy/obvious tie-in to IndieWeb relevance for /misinformation or /disinformation
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jacky those who know nothing at all about the IndieWeb
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jacky like I _kinda_ think it's safer to assume someone knows nothing about it and esp now the 'attraction' seems to be Webmentions
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jacky I had this written down somewhere when I was looking at those analytics info for the homepage
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-04-09.html
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jacky looking at https://app.usefathom.com/share/zphfryaa/indieweb.org#/?range=this_year&site=20823 for that
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jacky.wtf edited /reader (+17) "/* Social Readers */ add link as implict CTA" (view diff)
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[tantek] social media << 2021-04-07 Pew Research: [https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2021/04/07/social-media-use-in-2021/ Social Media Use in 2021]
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Loqi ok, I added "2021-04-07 Pew Research: [https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2021/04/07/social-media-use-in-2021/ Social Media Use in 2021]" to the "See Also" section of /social_media https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=75240&oldid=74278
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jacky decides to write this out
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-04-09.html
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jacky what is link rot
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "link rot" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "link rot is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jacky what?! lol
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jacky that's fine, that's what we have wikipedia
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jacky scribbled out https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/11e8c6f0-d513-4623-b167-502d764a9896
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jacky kinda synthesized my thoughts here
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jacky *there
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Loqi [jackyalcine] Repositioning the IndieWeb in 2021
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jacky CSS is obvs screwy
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-04-09.html (twitter.com/_/status/1380645455298715650)