#meta 2021-10-04
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@grigs The funny thing about this is that those saved files have a better chance of being around in ten years than the NFTs themselves.
https://indieweb.org/site-deaths (twitter.com/_/status/1444870641979572227)
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@ScottMadin ↩️ it's true that it's not good to let google/facebook/twitter be an oligopoly of identity brokers, but the solution is having web space that you unequivocally control, and using that to anchor other accounts. the "rel=me" microformat is key here. https://indieweb.org/rel-me (twitter.com/_/status/1444890954964553733)
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Loqi [New Event] www.jvt.me created "Oct 13, 2021 5:30pm Homebrew Website Club: Nottingham" https://events.indieweb.org/P9xE0w648Lqz
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@JamieTanna ↩️ Netlify is what I always recommend folks do and pair it with a static site generator like Hugo or Eleventy. I run #HomebrewWebsiteClub (https://events.indieweb.org/2021/10/homebrew-website-club-nottingham-P9xE0w648Lqz) as a meetup to get stuck into building your personal website if you're interested ☺ (https://www.jvt.me/mf2/2021/10/nihzq/) (twitter.com/_/status/1444915474945478661)
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@glyph This has been blowing my mind since I read it but not just because of the absolute gonzo nature of the facts in evidence, but because it is so powerful of an illustration of how “crypto people” completely fail to understand the problems in “centralized systems” https://twitter.com/zemnmez/status/1443821271045845005 (twitter.com/_/status/1444835553640259584)
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@capjamesg ↩️ Some useful links:
My website, just for fun :D https://jamesg.blog
Homebrew Website Club: https://events.indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/1444947523513237506)
# @capjamesg ↩️ +1 on everything @JamieTanna said. I like using Jekyll because it has a simple syntax and I find it easy to use.
(#HomebrewWebsiteClub meetings are great places to discuss these sorts of questions!) (twitter.com/_/status/1444947049066254339)
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@mauricerenck ↩️ No, I meant Micropub, which is an open API standard for publishing posts. There are plugins for a lot of cms, so you could reach a lot more people by implementing this: https://indieweb.org/Micropub
(Also I don't seem to get notification on replies, sorry for the late response) (twitter.com/_/status/1445037737174765572)
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@t you know what's *not* down right now?
my personal site & blog ⬇
https://tantek.com/
#indieweb
(copied from @aaronpk https://aaronparecki.com/2021/10/04/9/my-blog https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/1445072111098220551)
https://tantek.com/t5F41 (twitter.com/_/status/1445089910075969539)
# @capjamesg My blog is not down either:
https://jamesg.blog
You can continue to consume my coffee and tech writing without issue.
#indieweb #ownyourdata (twitter.com/_/status/1445089322349305861)
# @t ↩️ I went to my own site to point it out ;) which is also what @aaronpk did.
What you’re seeing on Twitter is merely a syndicated copy, for those who use Twitter as their reader, AKA POSSE: https://indieweb.org/POSSE
This reply is also from my site.
https://tantek.com/t5F42 (twitter.com/_/status/1445093467592413186)
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capjamesg[d] [tantek] great response!
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@paulaslc Today is a good day to remind you of a website first strategy for your content. If your business is only on a FB or IG site, today is probably a bad day for you. #indieweb #onlineautonomy (twitter.com/_/status/1445106260454432771)
# capjamesg[d] !rt
# Loqi Thanks capjamesg[d] and [tantek]! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1445107659150028804
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@mlncn and @agaric would like to offer them all websites at a reasonable cost— unlike Facebook, we won't take your privacy and your sense of dignity!
Seriously, i hope https://indieweb.org/ proponents are getting some attention right now. (twitter.com/_/status/1445107350889803777)
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@aaronpk Instagram may be down, but my photo grid on my website is looking sharp! https://aaronparecki.com/photos #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1445110852990869518)
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@dreamseer Kein Facebook, kein Instagram, kein WhatsApp – eigentlich ganz angenehm. Was mir aber dann immer einfällt: Ich müsste wirklich mal alle Fotos schön Indieweb-mäßig bei mir selber hosten. (twitter.com/_/status/1445112137924366342)
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# @mlncn ↩️ Facebook is very likely running fine, just no one can reach it. All your content is still there but this shows why we cannot trust centralized repositories, running on proprietary code, for profit and not for us.
Check out https://joinmastodon.org/ and #IndieWeb and #LibreSaaS (twitter.com/_/status/1445113086780846084)
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@MiQL ↩️ Also, peep @jackyalcine who’s been on top of IndieWeb, specifically as it applies to Blk people. (twitter.com/_/status/1445116384975880195)
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@SteveStreza If you have any decent presence online you really should have a website of your own that you control, maybe a mailing list or some other direct ways to communicate to your followers and own the relationship with your audience. The #IndieWeb is out there waiting for you. (twitter.com/_/status/1445116673145536518)
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@Rachael_RLETC1 ↩️ I miss myspace! Met my wife on there too. (twitter.com/_/status/1445118930117435401)
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@kijekijikokwe So, is http://indieweb.org @indiewebcamp finally going to take off now, or are we all going to go back to AOL, GeoCities, and MySpace? @FreedomBoxFndn anyone? #facebookdown (twitter.com/_/status/1445118757530181634)
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@roobottom WhatsApp, Facebook and instagram are down. My personal websites aren’t. Just saying… #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1445117835911512066)
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@voxpelli ↩️ What one can do right now: Build ones indie web presence, bringing ones blog/site closer to become a full fledged Facebook replacement https://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/1445121145569746958)
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@petermolnar You know what's not down? My #homepage, my #email , and my #xmpp messaging through my own server.
So instead of waiting for #facebookdown #instagramdisabled #whatsappdown and #gmaildown to come back let's rebuild the Old Internet!
#decentralize #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1445126326000787461)
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@sprucekhalifa The goal of indieWeb is simple: own your own content
Third party service can go down anytime (twitter.com/_/status/1445127224387162128)
# Loqi Thanks aaronpk and [tantek]! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1445130051876384771
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@goldstein Instagram might be down but, don’t panic, you can still see my Instagram photos on my website https://leotsem.com/photos/ thanks to #indieweb. Crisis averted. (twitter.com/_/status/1445131203242336256)
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@laufeninleipzig ↩️ 10. Mai 2012 in Deutschland. Erinnert ihr euch?! Da hilft auch kein Indieweb ;-) (twitter.com/_/status/1445134045009022982)
# @laufeninleipzig ↩️ 10. Mai 2010 in Deutschland. Erinnert ihr euch?! Da hilft auch kein Indieweb ;-) (twitter.com/_/status/1445134216610656261)
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@CaptainPainway #InternetShutDown is why I've been working on transferring all my data from social media sites to http://mary.codes. I downloaded all my data from Instagram yesterday to make my own photo gallery. I want to own all my data following @indiewebcamp principles. (twitter.com/_/status/1445135472225828876)
# Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Oct 6, 2021 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - The Americas" changed description https://events.indieweb.org/event/297/history/916/diff
# Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Oct 13, 2021 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - The Americas" changed description https://events.indieweb.org/event/298/history/917/diff
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[tantek] hey who is organizing https://events.indieweb.org/2021/10/indieweb-create-day-ZKw5v2nFDu6f ?
# [tantek] e.g. not everything from here, but at least the "Participating" and "Organizers" sections in a sentence or two: https://indieweb.org/2020/Austin
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@dshanske I heard some social networks were down. As long as I have my website, my social network is always running. If you’re interested, join the #indieweb community on Wednesday at 6PM Eastern/9PM Pacific for Homebrew Website Club, or this weekend for Create… https://dshanske.com/t/1Su (twitter.com/_/status/1445139376745455621)
# Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Oct 9, 2021 9:00am IndieWeb Create Day" changed code_of_conduct_url, description "Add organizer and CoC" https://events.indieweb.org/event/285/history/918/diff
# [tantek] GWG, btw, you may want to implement this in your POSSE plugin: https://indieweb.org/Twitter#POSSE_Updates_to_Twitter
# @dshanske I heard some social networks were down. As long as I have my website, my social network is always running. If you’re interested, join the #indieweb community on Wed at 6PM PST/9PM EST for Homebrew Website Club, this weekend for Create Day. All events at… https://dshanske.com/t/1Sx (twitter.com/_/status/1445143814092566539)
# [tantek] GWG, note that you can also use Bridgy to delete the POSSE tweet instead! https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/84#issuecomment-435456134
# Loqi [snarfed] for those following this issue: i've tentatively shipped delete for twitter. feel free to beta test ! just follow https://indieweb.org/delete and return HTTP 410 for a post that you previously published with bridgy. let me know how it goes!
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@TracyDurnell Facebook & Instagram outages have you rethinking your online presence? Come chat about having your own website at Homebrew Website Club on Wednesday! Hosted by @indiewebcamp https://events.indieweb.org/2021/10/homebrew-website-club-the-americas-KVhFTkxbnC99 (twitter.com/_/status/1445152826569547776)
# Loqi Thanks aaronpk and [tantek]! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1445153667078782983
# @TracyDurnell ↩️ Get your own website off the ground this Saturday Oct. 9 at @indiewebcamp Create Day! https://events.indieweb.org/2021/10/indieweb-create-day-ZKw5v2nFDu6f (twitter.com/_/status/1445153508668313600)
# Loqi Thanks gRegor and [tantek]! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1445156638676062215
# [tantek] Here's an idea/theme: https://flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/128214436/in/album-929277/
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tracydurnell[d] [tantek]: I have a different idea for a design if you'd like
# tracydurnell[d] what dimensions does it need to be?
# tracydurnell[d] I'll whip up what I'm thinking
# [tantek] dimensions, I suppose dimensions that would look good on https://events.indieweb.org/2021/10/indieweb-create-day-ZKw5v2nFDu6f similar to https://events.indieweb.org/2021/10/homebrew-website-club-the-americas-KVhFTkxbnC99
# [tantek] and when it shows up in link previews, like your tweet: https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1445153667078782983
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@indiewebcamp RT @TracyDurnell: Facebook & Instagram outages have you rethinking your online presence? Come chat about having your own website at Homebre… (twitter.com/_/status/1445153667078782983)
# tracydurnell[d] here's the concept, can make changes if you guys want 🙂
# tracydurnell[d] thanks 😄
# tracydurnell[d] I think I like it better with the whole laptop in 😉
# [tantek] yes! only thing I'd suggest is a little https://indieweb.org/ watermark or something in the lower right
# tracydurnell[d] good idea 😉
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "create day" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "create day is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [tantek] create day is an [[IndieWeb]] event, usually the second day of an [[IndieWebCamp]] or its own virtual event, where community members gather to share what they’re creating for their site that day, get inspired, and collaborate when their projects overlap.
# [tantek] create day << Previously: [[2020/Create_Day_Intro]]
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loqi.me edited /create_day (+57) "[tantek] added "Previously: [[2020/Create_Day_Intro]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
# Loqi ok, I added "Previously: [[2020/Create_Day_Intro]]" to a brand new "See Also" section of /create_day https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=77221&oldid=77220
# tracydurnell[d] let me know if you think that url should be bigger
# tracydurnell[d] coming up 🙂
# tracydurnell[d] haha I was thinking about that 😉
# tracydurnell[d] ok if we all thought it let's go for it
# [tantek] like this but tilted/skewed for the screen: https://indieweb.org/File:indiewebcamp-logo-lockup-color@3x.png
# [tantek] tracydurnell[d]++ yes this is awesome. I also created a /create_day stub (with redirects /createday and /create-day) if you wanted to link to that somewhere
# tracydurnell[d] ok, gave it a go with the warp tool, if it's too weirdo looking I can try a different transform technique 😉
# tracydurnell[d] oh lemme get rid of the extra black logo
# tracydurnell[d] I think that's the warp
# tracydurnell[d] let me try something else
# tracydurnell[d] what do you think, better enough?
# [tantek] and try embedding it on /createday
# tracydurnell[d] ok will give it a go