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loqi.me created /there_be_dragons (+28) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /TRUTH_Social (+29) "prompted by [chrisaldrich], redirect" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Here_be_dragons (+60) "add wp entry for TS" (view diff)
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich] ^ that's how we document that kind of toxic thing
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-22.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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[chrisaldrich] good to see that new pages that redirect like that don't hit the newsletter... 🙂
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Loqi [New Event] calumryan.com created "Oct 27, 2021 7:00pm Haunted Website Club Europe/London 🎃👻" https://events.indieweb.org/cjAjChIinyiP
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capjamesg[d] Spooky… 👻
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@kevinmarks ↩️ The earlier model was ping servers, which would send a url for each new post as it was published for crawlers and feed readers to fetch and update. Firehose was less TCP overhead (more like a SQL update stream). The standard way to do this now is WebSub https://indieweb.org/WebSub (twitter.com/_/status/1451486889387646976)
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@capjamesg ↩️ I am using both polling and WebSub for IndieWeb Search. WebSub is great because I can queue content for indexing that has just been published. The standard is well-defined too. (twitter.com/_/status/1451488219405721605)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+181) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ http://chat.indieweb.org has a good discussion space for this stuff in web/irc/slack/matrix (bridged) - the dev channel is a good place to talk implementation. (twitter.com/_/status/1451489175920840737)
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@capjamesg ↩️ I'd recommend checking out #indieweb at https://indieweb.org. The community documents quite a bit on social media as it happens (not everything though haha) + is working on new ways to think about the social web, built on web standards. (twitter.com/_/status/1451489135508791301)
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@capjamesg ↩️ I learned about this conversation in the IndieWeb chat :) Happy to help there! (twitter.com/_/status/1451493253749018644)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ We do have some history pages there, yes, and would welcome more edits from people who were involved, with links too. eg https://indieweb.org/timeline and https://indieweb.org/site-deaths (twitter.com/_/status/1451494001622781953)
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@capjamesg ↩️ I don't know if you use Python but if you do here is how I handle resubscriptions to WebSub hubs: Resubscribing: https://github.com/capjamesg/indieweb-search/blob/main/recrawl.py#L129 Creating subs: https://github.com/capjamesg/indieweb-search/blob/a8f413c4ef9309c615b7f7fa2d35110284ff1c7c/elasticsearch_server/database_methods.py#L194 Creating a queue: https://github.com/capjamesg/indieweb-search/blob/main/elasticsearch_server/database_methods.py#L261 (twitter.com/_/status/1451496161269911558)
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@nhoizey Pour ceux qui cherchent des infos sur l'implémentation de #webmention avec différents outils de gestion de contenus ou de sites, il y a de quoi s'abreuver à la source : https://indieweb.org/Webmention#Publishing_Software (twitter.com/_/status/1451545311286026251)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-22.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-22.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-22.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-22.html
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[tantek] [calumryan]++ for Haunted Website Club 😂
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[tantek] GWG ^ WDYT?
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-22.html
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[tantek] oh goodness I should see if we can capture all the principles / metaphors discussions with updates for the newsletter
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GWG [tantek]: We added a Friday event for that
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-22.html
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[tantek] GWG, if we have IndieWeb people in Vancouver, perhaps we can try to organize an IWC before TPAC next year. I'm sure Seattle & Portland folks may show up 🙂
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[tantek] GWG, you may find some W3C involvement interesting too
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[tantek] certainly you can participate as an independent in the Wednesday Plenary day (which is kind of like W3C's annual BarCamp day)
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GWG [tantek]: I might...may ask closer to the event
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tracydurnell[d] I'd be in for an excuse to go to Vancouver 😉
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-22.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-22.html
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GWG tracydurnell[d]: I would be in for an excuse to go to Seattle
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tracydurnell[d] 😄
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-22.html
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GWG tracydurnell[d]: I got pulled out of the fish market when the fishmonger was about to tell me the secret of picking great salmon
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tracydurnell[d] ha, tragic!
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[tantek] ok GWG, tracydurnell[d], that's enough to start a Vancouver section on /Planning
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aaronpk speaking of planning, Düsselsorf is coming up fast
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[tantek] Marc is *still* working on trying to find a venue
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[tantek] trying many contacts
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aaronpk gosh
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aaronpk is there a date where it becomes too late to try to put the event together?
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-22.html
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GWG aaronpk: I asked that. I'm proceeding with my alternative vacation plans
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GWG If worst comes, I'll remote in
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tantek.com edited /Planning (-152) "bump all but one 2021 to 2022" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Planning (+7) "/* Vancouver */ participating" (view diff)
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[tantek] GWG, tracydurnell[d], please add yourself 🙂 https://indieweb.org/Planning#Vancouver
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-22.html
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david.shanske.com edited /Planning (+10) "/* Vancouver */" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-22.html
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[KevinMarks] For Vancouver we can rope in Tim Bray and Boris Mann
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[KevinMarks] Trying to think who else is based there. Marcus of plentyoffish?
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[KevinMarks] Revive twitter.com/openwebvan - that was a fun conference
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[KevinMarks] https://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/2351643252/in/photolist-4FLBKZ-4FLC1H-4FQzdf-4FLwCk-4FQB3d-4FQJtN-4FLtKP-4FLqtM-4FQECG-4FLzC6-4FQJju-4FLpjV-4FQz6N-4FQBFA-4FQKw3-4FQML7-4FLq38-4FLyHk-4FLvLp-4FQE2s-4FLyBK-4FLARt-4FLrhr-4FQF67-4FLBVP-4FLqie-4FQGjY-4FLuKH-4FLtGa-4FQFa7-4zNMBj-4FQGXm-4FLBSP-4FLz4R-4FLAfz-4FLqDn-4FQGc3-4FQJ4u-4FQBAQ-4FLu32-4FLunc-4FLtvi-4FQAAy-4FQK2S-4FQApW-4FLwN4-4FLxv8-4FLrTH-4FQCWW-4FLsvD
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-22.html
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@binyamingreen ↩️ Thanks. Are you saying that it's in the spec that way? Would love a references. Btw, I'm coming from https://indieweb.social/@obsolete29/107145973082734749 (twitter.com/_/status/1451655575817932800)
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] I don’t think I went to that one!
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[tantek] The timing is just about right for various open/indie/social web proto things. Who gave the microformats talk?
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[tantek] That’s worth documenting for historical purposes on the microformats wiki
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[tantek] At least a page for the event dated like the others with a list of known microformats related talks, and participants
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-22.html
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-22.html
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-22.html (twitter.com/_/status/1451673478633967619)
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[KevinMarks] IIRC it was me, Chris Messina and Ryan King
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gregorlove.com edited /setlist (+130) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ +me" (view diff)
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tracydurnell.com edited /Planning (+19) "/* Vancouver */ add self to interested list" (view diff)