#meta 2021-10-27

2021-10-27 UTC
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@QuantumG Not what I'm looking for, but interesting! https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1453266955125809152)
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Loqi [github] Pull request opened by capjamesg: https://github.com/indieweb/spec.indieweb.org/pull/15
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capjamesg[d] Is this spec still used: https://ptd.spec.indieweb.org/index-wd.html
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capjamesg[d] It feels like we should make mention of this on the spec site too if so.
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] Post Type Discovery
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[tantek] It is, but for a narrower set of use-cases. It’s not really essential for any kind of indieweb to indieweb interop
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[tantek] More of a bridge for older sites / software that has a stricter built-in “post types” model
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@courtneyengle ↩️ Any thoughts about the Goodreads replacement going toward @indieweb / Mastadoon model? As in, still a social network, but entirely related to self-owning our part in the system? https://wordpress.org/plugins/indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/1453349122514227204)
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@ChrisWiegman ↩️ I should add that my reply is just about Indieweb. I'm a heavy Mastodon user. (twitter.com/_/status/1453350009714454533)
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@ChrisWiegman ↩️ In the past I've dug in heavily to Indieweb and I revisit it every few years but I've found it largely a waste. So many dead ideas/protocols/etc all making folks feel good but never really providing anything to anyone (twitter.com/_/status/1453349665542393856)
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aaronpk Well that's a bit extreme. "Anything"? "Anyone"?
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aaronpk Maybe "something I was looking for" and "to me" would be more accurate
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capjamesg[d] Harsh.
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jeremycherfas I did POSSE a reply, but did not mention indieweb so it won't be picked up.
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capjamesg[d] What is the purpose of this site?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "purpose of this site" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "purpose of this site is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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capjamesg[d] https://microformats-staging.indieweb.org/wiki/h-review-aggregate
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capjamesg[d] I saw it on Google today. I can't really remember what I searched for though.
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aaronpk wow, doubling down on the reply too https://twitter.com/chriswiegman/status/1453357062512123910
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@ChrisWiegman @EatPodcast Lol. OK. Just keep feeling good about it. (twitter.com/_/status/1453357062512123910)
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aaronpk we don't need that attitude here 👋
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@chrisbergr ↩️ For me, the Indieweb is two things: a collection of concepts and ideas (e.g. OwnYourData); and a community with great people. Both offer me a lot, so please don't say "never provide anything to anyone" - There's more alive than dead. (twitter.com/_/status/1453358903165599747)
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capjamesg[d] https://twitter.com/ChrisWiegman/status/1453350009714454533
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@ChrisWiegman @courtneyengle @indieweb I should add that my reply is just about Indieweb. I'm a heavy Mastodon user. (twitter.com/_/status/1453350009714454533)
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capjamesg[d] Mastodon also incorporates IndieWeb concepts, right?
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aaronpk yes, which is why i've decided to just ignore that person
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@kandr3s It’s been kind of messy on my RSS feed, apologies for that. I’m still setting up IndieWeb stuff. Here’s an old pic of Billy and Mara though. (twitter.com/_/status/1453415894756085762)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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Loqi [Event Updated] calumryan.com updated "Oct 27, 2021 7:00pm Haunted Website Club Europe/London 🎃👻" changed description https://events.indieweb.org/event/304/history/935/diff
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@ChrisWiegman ↩️ Thanks, Chris! I'll take a look (twitter.com/_/status/1453424877243863042)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ @courtneyengle @ChrisWiegman @indieweb On the indie front there are some interesting evolving examples and state of… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1453415633270427652 (twitter.com/_/status/1453415633270427652)
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[tantek] wow it's a day for arguments.
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[tantek] aaronpk, that person does have #indieweb-wordpress in their Twitter bio (the # wordpress hashtag, in case that got auto-converted to a channel link). did they try to engage with IndieWeb and WordPress and have problems? GWG do you remember them at all?
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[tantek] jeremycherfas++ for trying the kindness approach. never know when it's going to work and when someone is going to double-down. 😕
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Loqi jeremycherfas has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (9 in all channels)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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gRegor I didn't realize the microformats staging wiki was up still, should we remove that? https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2021-10-27#t1635341930484300
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Loqi [capjamesg[d]] https://microformats-staging.indieweb.org/wiki/h-review-aggregate
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capjamesg[d] That’s what I was thinking.
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capjamesg[d] It has been indexed by Google.
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aaronpk oops, i think it's on the same machine
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aaronpk i can redirect those to microformats.org
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gRegor good catch capjamesg[d]++
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Loqi capjamesg[d] has 8 karma in this channel over the last year (34 in all channels)
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aaronpk oh funny
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aaronpk http://microformats-staging.indieweb.org/ does redirect, the fact that it's serving from https is an accident
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aaronpk there was never an https version of it
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gRegor huh, interesting
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capjamesg[d] Very odd.
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aaronpk good tip, always set a default virtual host in nginx/apache that is a redirect otherwise the server will serve whatever your first site is
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aaronpk it's serving the wiki from `https:// (the ip address) /` too
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aaronpk there we go that should fix it
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[tantek] aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 19 karma in this channel over the last year (113 in all channels)
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GWG [tantek]: No, but I'm not always good with names, will look more closely
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[tantek] Thanks for looking into it. I'm kinda curious if we can figure out if/when this person showed up (in which channels) and how we responded at the time
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[chrisbergr] [tantek] I guess [chrisaldrich] knows him a bit - https://boffosocko.com/2018/08/30/reply-to-rethinking-my-social-media-use-chris-wiegman/
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Loqi [Chris Aldrich] Chris, many of us have been having the same thoughts for quite a while. Since you’re rethinking things, and you’ve already got your own website/blog, why not just switch over to that and let the internet be your social network? Many of us in the ...
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[tantek] Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between reasonable frustration at the wiki or other resources, vs a sense of either perfectionism or entitlement (or both) which can be an unfortunate source of continuous toxicity
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[tantek] Yes we should keep improving the wiki etc based on feedback, however as aaronpk alluded to, it's not always good to try to include or accommodate "everyone". that being said, we can all choose our own levels of personal outreach we want to do with different people, and how to spend our time/energy accordingly
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aaronpk why is everyone named chris 😂
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[chrisbergr] At school I was one of five Chris' in a class. That was horrible.
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[chrisbergr] The reason can be frustration, but maybe there is some kind of agenda behind it. Possibly someone is behind concepts/products that compete with IndieWeb?
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[tantek] that's usually unlikely because of our bridging philosophy
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[tantek] and actual bridging code and services!
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[chrisbergr] I guess Facebook isn't a fan either. But it was just a general 'maybe'.... In any case, it can't be because of the people here.
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GWG [tantek]: Coming to HWC tonight? We could discuss your booster shot post type
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[tantek] lol oh boy
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[tantek] is there prior art from Zegnat on posting vax status?
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[tantek] or making it part of your h-card?
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GWG [tantek]: Suggest it, he'd probably do it
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[KevinMarks] I'm sure there is FHIR for vax status
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aaronpk i have my QR code that's signed by the insurance company
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aaronpk i need to write up that blog post. i dug into the specs and wrote some code to validate it
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