#meta 2021-11-11

2021-11-11 UTC
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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GWG Anyone for HWC?
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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capjamesg[d] [tantek]++
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Loqi [tantek] has 19 karma in this channel over the last year (72 in all channels)
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capjamesg[d] Looks good!
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aaronparecki.com edited /2021/Düsseldorf (+7) "/* Directions */" (view diff)
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Loqi [Event Updated] aaronparecki.com updated "Nov 11, 2021 10:00am IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf" changed location_name, description https://events.indieweb.org/event/308/history/957/diff
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed indieweb/2021.indieweb.org to https://2021.indieweb.org
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed indieweb/2021.indieweb.org to https://2021.indieweb.org
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jamesg.blog edited /search (+125) "/* capjamesg */" (view diff)
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jamesg.blog uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:indieweb search query.png]]" https://indieweb.org/File:indieweb_search_query.png"
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jamesg.blog edited /IndieWeb_Search (+134) (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /retro (+410) "[tantek]1 added "https://twitter.com/terronk/status/1454096103398203397" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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aaronpk Livestream is up!
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aaronpk https://indieweb.live/
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GWG aaronpk: I'm the 1 viewer, I guess. Nothing showing up yet but the logo
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tantek.com edited /2021/Düsseldorf (+40) "Xafé, explicitly note venue is in the Stadtfenster room" (view diff)
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GWG Just to confirm, nothing is supposed to be showing up yet, right?
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aaronpk Just the logo
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aaronpk We are live!
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GWG aaronpk: Audio is a bit low
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GWG I hear it though
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aaronpk Audio test
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GWG Still low.
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GWG And my volume is at max
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GWG Is that a library joke?
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christian.hockenberger.us edited /MySpace (+357) "/* See Also */ Added Tom Anderson's Facebook post from 2011" (view diff)
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aaronpk Better now?
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GWG aaronpk: Much, thanks
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sknebel !march
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Kaja It's March 621, 2020 (UTC)
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[chrisbergr] I'm viewer #3 🙂
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GWG [chrisbergr]: I'm #1
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[chrisbergr] GWG do you also have the loading indicator every 15-20 seconds for 1-2 seconds or is it me?
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GWG [chrisbergr]: I am getting that
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GWG Not every 15-20, but periodically, yes
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[chrisbergr] okay
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GWG I just lost audio though
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[chrisbergr] now the audio is lost
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GWG It's back, bit low again though
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aaronpk Back?
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GWG That's better.
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[chrisbergr] I love those sidebars from calumryan.com 🙂
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petermolnar "Stream is offline" in android chrome
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aaronpk It's true
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aaronpk It is correct
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petermolnar Oh :)
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GWG Any news on the Zoom?
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Loqi [Event Updated] aaronparecki.com updated "Nov 11, 2021 10:00am IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf" changed meeting_url https://events.indieweb.org/event/308/history/958/diff
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aaronparecki.com edited /2021/Düsseldorf (+253) "/* Organizers */" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /2021/Düsseldorf (-10) "/* Sessions */" (view diff)
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aaronpk sessions starting now!
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aaronpk schedule "grid" https://indieweb.org/2021/D%C3%BCsseldorf#Sessions
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aaronparecki.com edited /2021/Düsseldorf (+31) "/* Sessions */" (view diff)
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GWG Sorry. Did not make an etherpad
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+553) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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[chrisbergr] Zoom audio host is lost
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sknebel is being fixed
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[chrisbergr] The user is back with muted audio 😉
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tantek.com edited /2021/Düsseldorf (+105) "link 12:45 session page, etherpad" (view diff)
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sknebel which session do remote people want to join
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GWG Noise
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GWG I'm fine with either, but I'll do IndieAuth if both are available
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sebsel we can make that one available
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GWG I can turn on the camera long term if you want.
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sknebel if someone else wants webmentions I can put a laptop on zoom
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[chrisbergr] IndieAuth is perfectly fine
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GWG Makes me miss the gang even more.
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sebsel https://etherpad.indieweb.org/where-is-indieauth
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sknebel audio ok?
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[KevinMarks] audio is good, though I'm not really payign attention as I'm trying to work as well
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[chrisbergr] I try to work, too. I need to call a client but don't know how to mute the zoom audio -.-
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GWG [chrisbergr]: Mute your computer's speaker?
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[chrisbergr] My company uses software for phone calls, so I need the computer's audo (headphones)
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@acegiak ↩️ Blockchain crypto centred technologies are a scam primarily targeting startups and early adopters. If you want to look at decentralized web & content models talk to #indieweb folks who have been working the problem for years without burning the planet in the process. @kevinmarks (twitter.com/_/status/1458777112253501441)
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vanderven.se martijn edited /2021/Düsseldorf (+61) "Add IndieAuth notes" (view diff)
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Zegnat Düsseldorf now discussing https://csswizardry.com/ct/
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marcthiele.com deleted /File:marcthiele.jpg "old"
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Zegnat Matching slidedeck that aaronpk is pulling up: https://speakerdeck.com/csswizardry/get-your-head-straight
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Zegnat Now looking at loading waterfalls to do performance testing. See e.g. https://www.webpagetest.org/result/211111_BiDc4Y_ab3b73341338ec2c30fba231fc30d1b5/ for an example of aaronpk.com
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[KevinMarks] mirror of the presentation https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LuQovsmS7JXaP1rZBzivNlNB7JyOb7nl/view?usp=sharing
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[chrisbergr] [KevinMarks] friendly reminder that you're not muted
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GWG Okay. I have a simple tweak to my site ready
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[KevinMarks] muting dogs is hard
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aaronpk Demos starting now!
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aaronpk The screen sharing will be easier to see on IndieWeb.live
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jeremycherfas L:ink for live again, please.
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jeremycherfas nvm, found it
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jbove Can recommend having a look at Tailwind CSS as a CSS framework and its "Just in time" compiler mode.
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jbove https://tailwindcss.com/docs/just-in-time-mode
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Zegnat There is a https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2021-D%C3%BCsseldorf-demos for demo notes, if anyone wants to help scribe
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[KevinMarks] indieweb.live is buffering a lot for screen sharing, like 1 frame every 10 seconds
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Zegnat It does not buffer that much for me, but it is very behind the Zoom cast
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jeremycherfas Wait. There's a Zoom link too?
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jbove https://events.indieweb.org/2021/11/indiewebcamp-d%C3%BCsseldorf-Z6z8DpkikdxI
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Zegnat But it does not get screen share
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jbove flashing "Join the online meeting"
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jeremycherfas Oh. Then I'll stick with Livestream.
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Zegnat I am also getting lots of buffering on the owncast now :( Refreshing the whole page sometimes helps
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Zegnat We interrupt this program for technical difficulties with the demos ....
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Zegnat And fixed by Marc!
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jeremycherfas Not fixed here yet.
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jbove cool
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jeremycherfas Better now. But Tantek disappeared.
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Seb[d] any remote demo's?
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GWG I have a demo, if someone wants to show it. I updated my code for https://david.shanske.com/thisweek and https://david.shanske.com/onthisday to no longer show posts made this year, only in previous years. Also, added in a photo view. So https://david.shanske.com/onthisday/photos shows the photos only from /onthisday. And you can tell with the fact the icon next to the day changes from
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GWG calendar to photo icon.
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GWG timemanagement++
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Loqi timemanagement has 1 karma over the last year
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jbove Not from me - had to work on daytime job stuff
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Zegnat same here jbove
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jeremycherfas Same here.
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Seb[d] also valid!
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jeremycherfas Clients wanting their work done. The nerve of it.
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Zegnat Wrapping up the demos. I hope I caught it all in the notes https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2021-D%C3%BCsseldorf-demos. I missed the first Kirby plugin that Marc was looking at, so if anyone knows it, please add :)
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jbove I need to start working on Known's default templating system and optimize it
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jbove plan for next year or so :-)
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Seb[d] Zegnat++ for all the notes
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Loqi Zegnat has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (32 in all channels)
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jbove Oh man, I forgot to grab some stickers on my rush out
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jbove It's awesome this happened today in my home town!
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Seb[d] we can hide some in a library book?
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jbove The library is brand new
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jbove ha, yeah, that's a fun idea
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jbove There are Encyclopedia Brittanica's on the second floor -
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Zegnat Really sad I couldn’t make it on short notice. But it was great to see some familiar faces in the same room again! Next IWC DUS: in 170-something days, hopefully. Start planning
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Zegnat Haha, hide a sticker under I in the Encyclopedia?
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jeremycherfas Buffering got way worse now that things are winding down.
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jeremycherfas Oh well, that little bit I watched was great. Thanks to everyone.
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Zegnat There will be a full recording of the whole day from Zoom, I believe? (GWG probably has that one?)
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jbove Does the 1992 edition have an entry for Internet ?
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GWG Zegnat: It was recording and I have the password to download it
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Zegnat Not sure if there will be a matching recording from owncast for the screenshares though
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GWG aaronpk: Do you have the intro and demos footage?
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jeremycherfas But the Zoom does not have screensharing, right?
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[chrisbergr] Nice that I could follow live at least a little bit on the side
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GWG No, it didn't
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[KevinMarks] I was listening on the zoom, and hitting refresh on the owncast to get a still frame of the screen
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jbove If you're staying in Düsseldorf check out the Alt Stadt where the beginning of the carneval season is celebrated - perhaps - responsibly
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jbove If the weather would be bad: https://holocafe.de/de/duesseldorf/infos
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tantek.com created /2021/Düsseldorf/next-goal (+1905) "archive from etherpad" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2021/Düsseldorf (-52) "/* Sessions */ archived Next Website Goal etherpad" (view diff)
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Loqi [Event Updated] tantek.com updated "Nov 11, 2021 10:00am IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf" changed description "link wiki" https://events.indieweb.org/event/308/history/959/diff
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tantek.com edited /2021/Düsseldorf (+262) "/* Sessions */ 24h time, prioritize session titles not facilitators" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2021/Düsseldorf (+194) "Posts section" (view diff)
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[tantek]1 aaronpk, I think there's a failure to escape content when the < < operator gets content from a tweet, e.g. take a look at: https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=77790&oldid=77789
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aaronpk oh dear
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[tantek]1 note the markup in the diff. the <br> are *supposed* to be there to add the linebreaks for the content to look correct.
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[tantek]1 however, the <script> <head> </body> are not, or rather should be escaped
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[tantek]1 should be literal, not tags
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tantek.com edited /2021/Düsseldorf (+16) "move tweet up to a post, and HTML escape the literal tags in the content of the post" (view diff)
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seblog.nl edited /2021/Düsseldorf (+39) "/* Sessions */ add link to session page for IndieAuth updates" (view diff)
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seblog.nl created /2021/Düsseldorf/indieauth-updates (+2744) "archive etherpad https://etherpad.indieweb.org/where-is-indieauth" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /2021/Düsseldorf/indieauth-updates (+183) (view diff)
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seblog.nl created /2021/Düsseldorf/demos (+2474) "archive etherpad https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2021-D%C3%BCsseldorf-demos" (view diff)
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[tantek]1 anyone have ideas on how to improve the curl -H page for folks finding it via Google?
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[tantek]1 what is curl -H
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Loqi curl -H is a command line option for the curl command that takes a single parameter of an extra header to include in the request https://indieweb.org/curl_-H
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aaronparecki.com edited /curl_-H (+136) (view diff)
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Seb[d] for ourselves: add an example that has even more IndieWeb relevance?
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Seb[d] is this a good way to set a header / send an access token?
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tantek.com edited /curl_-H (+7) "move to examples section" (view diff)
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aaronpk darn it
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Seb[d] If so: nice way to get people clicking to the IndieAuth page next?
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aaronparecki.com edited /curl_-H (+320) (view diff)
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aaronpk my thoughts exactly ^^
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Seb[d] nice 😄
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[tantek]1 ooh that's good
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[tantek]1 aaronpk, could you add the additional line of PHP for the multiple options case to https://indieweb.org/curl_-H#PHP?
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aaronparecki.com edited /curl_-H (+178) "/* Language-Specific curl Equivalents */ add multiple header php example" (view diff)
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aaronpk this is basically the same strategy i've been using with oauth.net btw. looking at the popular pages, then creating additional pages linked from those pages to keep giving people things to browse
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[tantek]1 this is a good strategy to add to /wikify
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aaronpk that page stresses me out lol
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[tantek]1 lol that's on me
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[tantek]1 tinbox << simplify (restructure if necessary) [[wikify]] to be more approachable and usable (at a minimum not stress out aaronpk)
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Loqi ok, I added "simplify (restructure if necessary) [[wikify]] to be more approachable and usable (at a minimum not stress out aaronpk)" to the "See Also" section of /tinbox https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=77803&oldid=75728
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[KevinMarks] is that nested wikification?
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