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2022-01-26 UTC
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tracydurnell.com edited /2022/Pop-ups/Analog_Meets_Online (+69) "/* Posts */ add link to further thoughts after the session" (view diff)
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[tantek] goes to read tracydurnell[d]'s post
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tracydurnell[d] 😎
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@staycurio_us Upcoming shows feature topics like #oauth #indieweb and much more. Add our RSS ferd to your reader: https://beyondtellerrand.com/feed/stay-curious #rss #staycurious #btconf #onlinevent (twitter.com/_/status/1486229153372413960)
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capjamesg[d] tracydurnell++
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Loqi tracydurnell has 16 karma in this channel over the last year (20 in all channels)
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jamesg.blog edited /Web_3.0 (+284) "/* Comparison to IndieWeb */" (view diff)
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capjamesg[d] [tantek] I made the addition we discussed yesterday 🙂
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theadhocracy.co.uk edited /TikTok (+705) "/* Criticism */" (view diff)
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[tantek] yay! thanks capjamesg[d]. I see you copied the format of the tweets that were quoted too. I wonder if we should encourage Loqi to use <blockquote> for the tweet content in its < < function instead of a ** nested list item.
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Loqi 😄
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[tantek] aaronpk, WDYT about using <blockquote> when Loqi extracts content from a URL that it's adding from the < < command?
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aaronpk sure, will it help?
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[tantek] purely from a semantic / aesthetic point of view, a blockquote is more 'correct' for that than a nested list item
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[tantek] I think it looks mildly cleaner without the extra * bullet
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[tantek] whether it helps anything else? who knows. IDK if any search engines for example do anything special with <blockquote> though they could! Especially with blockquote tags that used the cite= attribute to link to the source of the blockquote!
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[tantek] here I'll mark those up manually to demonstrate
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[tantek] (since I was the one what asked 😂 )
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aaronpk can I put a blockquote inside a list item?
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aaronparecki.com edited /test (+87) (view diff)
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aaronpk i guess this works? https://indieweb.org/test
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tantek.com edited /Web_3.0 (+541) "/* Comparison to IndieWeb */ use blockquote cite= and nested cite markup" (view diff)
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[tantek] take a look aaronpk, I think this looks better: https://indieweb.org/Web_3.0#Comparison_to_IndieWeb
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aaronpk what's the difference?
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[tantek] always good to test with actual content to see
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[tantek] compare to prev revision
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[tantek] prev: https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Web_3.0&oldid=79337#Comparison_to_IndieWeb
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aaronpk oh
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[tantek] note how much it makes a difference when there's a bunch of them in a row
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[tantek] those extra * bullets really add noise
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[tantek] of course I also did the extra work of putting the source in <cite> markup on its own line for better clarity / separation as well
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[tantek] now another experiment would be to see how well that "natural" markup of the existing content works with h-cite, which would also make sense
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capjamesg[d] Looks good [tantek] 🙌
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[tantek] adding h-cite won't make any visual difference, and I wanted to do it in two different edits to demonstrate the thinking process of "properly" marking something up with semantic HTML, and then later adding microformats
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aaronpk ugh i need to also handle all the cases of when there isn't an author and isn't a date
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aaronpk can't only code for the happy path
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[tantek] oh? I thought you only expanded from tweets
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[tantek] I can write up the markup for those if you can find me examples of content without the date and/or without the the author
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aaronpk It works for anything that XRay can parse, so lots of stuff
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tantek.com edited /Web_3.0 (+487) "/* Comparison to IndieWeb */ add h-cite markup to blockquotes, with nested p-author h-card" (view diff)
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aaronpk if there's a blog post with a title that also has different presentation, it only includes the title not the contents
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[tantek] oh wow, so both tweets and anything with an h-entry? or more?
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loqi.me edited /RSS3 (+205) "[tantek] added "a [[js;dr]] reimagining/squatting of RSS3: https://rss3.io/ <blockquote>We're sorry but RSS3 doesn't work properly without JavaScript enabled. Please enable it to continue.</blockquote>" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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aaronpk anything with an h-entry, and some other things that can be maped onto an h-entry
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loqi.me created /linkinbio (+24) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /acct (+22) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /WebFinger (+453) "appropriate comic, add IndieWeb relevance to dfn" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /WebFinger (+51) "link to source of comic (KevinMarks on xoxo.zone)" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /ClassicPress (+188) "prompted by gRegor and dfn added by sknebel" (view diff)
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sknebel uh, Kajas url-fix broken? sigh
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sknebel 60 hours until sknebel, Kaja urlify?
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2022-01-29 6:57am CET (#6916)
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sknebel oh, thats a bit early
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sknebel !cancel 6916
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Loqi Okay, I cancelled it!
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sknebel 66 hours until sknebel, Kaja urlify?
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2022-01-29 12:57pm CET (#6917)
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www.svenknebel.de posts edited /ClassicPress (+3) "fixup" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /LimeSurvey (+755) "started a stub since there's IndieWeb usage experience" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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Loqi [Event Updated] ohhelloana.blog updated "Jan 26, 2022 7:00pm Homebrew Website Club Europe/London" changed description https://events.indieweb.org/event/331/history/1004/diff
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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capjamesg[d] What is merch?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "merch" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "merch is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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capjamesg[d] merch is /swag
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /merch (+17) "prompted by capjamesg[d] and redirect added by capjamesg[d]" (view diff)
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capjamesg[d] What is merchandise?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "merchandise" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "merchandise is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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capjamesg[d] merchandise is /swag
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /merchandise (+17) "prompted by capjamesg[d] and redirect added by capjamesg[d]" (view diff)
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kimberlyhirsh.com edited /User:Kimberlyhirsh.com (-4) (view diff)
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GWG- Anyone coming to HWC tonight?
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@kinduff A guide to getting you on the IndieWeb https://indiewebify.me/ (twitter.com/_/status/1486471573011931136)
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[tantek] GWG, hoping to
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GWG- [tantek]: Didn't see your RSVP
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[tantek] I have a hard time posting maybe RSVPs to an event that I will likely go to, especially since I don't have a way (yet) of not-POSSEing my RSVPs. My RSVPs currently serve a secondary role of helping to promote a specific event, which I'd rather promote with saying I'm going than I might go.
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[tantek] maybe I should file an issue for an "interested" button on Meetable events
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GWG- [tantek]: I worry when I'm the only one I know is coming.
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[tantek] understandable and I share that
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gRegor I'll try to stop by, GWG
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GWG- I'll try to be entertaining.