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@kevinmarks ↩️ If you want a bigger group that's very cross connected, then @joinmastodon works, but you will need to choose or host an instance.
If you have a WordPress blog, there are a set of plugins to connect with this at https://indieweb.org/WordPress/Plugins (twitter.com/_/status/1518742727139241985)
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@dan_sanderson For indie media types, earthquakes in a platform are a reminder of the value of a multi-platform strategy that includes cross-posting and cross-platform network activation. POSSE: Publish Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere. https://indieweb.org/POSSE 1/ (twitter.com/_/status/1518744360577249280)
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@AstraLuma ↩️ IndieWeb afaik is way more self-hosting and the evolution of blogging. (twitter.com/_/status/1518747668725612544)
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@TracyDurnell Apropos of nothing, if you're interested in having your own website for your words to live on, check out http://indieweb.org or stop in to Wednesday's Homebrew Website Club https://events.indieweb.org/2022/04/homebrew-website-club-pacific-gLEn1a6B2fwb (twitter.com/_/status/1518749997885390848)
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@ChrisAldrich Not sure why, but seems like a lot of people on Twitter are sharing this link about downloading an archive of your data: https://twitter.com/settings/download_your_data
#OwnYourData #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1518752791665287169)
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@danyork ↩️ A *partial* solution to consider is the IndieWeb idea of:
POSSE - Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere
https://indieweb.org/POSSE
Publish on your site / blog / whatever - and link to it from the various social platforms.
2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1518755305764663301)
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@peterjanes ↩️ Looking into the IndieWeb offerings, although my first foray is turning into a bit of an ordeal. (twitter.com/_/status/1518754325207691267)
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@jamesecradockjr I’m @jamesecradockjr@indieweb.social over on Mastodon. Come on over, and join me! (twitter.com/_/status/1518755746309197824)
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@edtechdev Another option: sign up for shared hosting @ReclaimHosting (~$3-$4/month) https://reclaimhosting.com/shared-hosting/
1-click Install WordPress https://support.reclaimhosting.com/hc/en-us/articles/1500005834082-Installing-WordPress
Install the IndieWeb plugin https://indieweb.org/WordPress_IndieWeb_Plugin
& publish on your own site, syndicating to social media https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/1518767648456257536)
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samwilson.id.au edited /location (+108) "/* IndieWeb Software */ Add Twyne, and move WordPress example to right side." (view diff)
# samwilson.id.au moved /Tywne to /Twyne "typo"
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@ZakPatterson ↩️ I'm trying it out, @zakpatterson@indieweb.social
I like it, building an id tied to a home server but still being able to interact with people from other servers feels interesting. (twitter.com/_/status/1518776264122716161)
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@AmmarMerhbi ↩️ such as the Fediverse or the IndieWeb #Twitter #Fediverse (twitter.com/_/status/1518788472781385730)
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@HongPong if you are wondering about #indieweb #peertube #Mastodon #pixelfed see
ActivityPub a specification for federated servers accounts interfaces. any software could implement these type of mailboxes. Federated Social Web protocol from W3C working group
https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/ (twitter.com/_/status/1518797995189448705)
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@__e__y__e__s__ ↩️ there’s this i guess but setting it up seems annoying so it wouldnt work for a lot of ppl https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1518805807789391872)
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@cagrimmett ↩️ Check out the post for more. The world needs your creativity, insights, and knowledge. Your future self needs the catalogue of what you are thinking about and working on this week. Go set up a blog and get started. #indieweb #blogging (twitter.com/_/status/1518808483428290562)
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@_joshdick ↩️ I agree the bar to entry is too high. The hosted service is pricey, and self-hosting requires Extreme Nerd Shit like this ridiculous thing I made http://github.com/joshdick/microstat/ but I can't help but love the idea behind IndieWeb/a Twitter-ish experience built on open web standards. (twitter.com/_/status/1518821896825024512)
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@AriaSalvatrice ↩️ yeah i am zero fan of the whole indieweb thing, it seems to be mostly about adding complex new formats/protocols. but also socially, it seems to be mostly an alt/hobby professional networking circle of upper-class corporate tech people. i can tell easily when i don't belong. (twitter.com/_/status/1518823716662259714)
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@carlesbellver ↩️ La idea és que no hauríem de lliurar les nostres dades i la nostra identitat en línia a xarxes socials privades i tancades, com Twitter o Facebook, i que la millor xarxa social és el web. https://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/1518842092881125377)
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@fluffy ↩️ I don't feel like Mastodon is really the replacement for Twitter. First of all, the problem with Twitter isn't that it's centralized, but that it's Twitter.
Second, Mastodon (and Fediverse/ActivityPub in general) has some serious pain points. https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/12455-Indieweb-vs-Fediverse (twitter.com/_/status/1518858299545817089)
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@cswordpress ↩️ We'd love to have you on either the fediverse or the #indieweb, or both. With indieweb you can interact with Mastodon as well as Twitter if you want. http://www.indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/1518863047565185024)
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@ricmac ↩️ 5/ For these reasons, I could never quite get on board with the indieweb POSSE philosophy ("Publish [on your] Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere"), since I don't want to publish natter and/or promotional content on my website. A 2017 post explaining more: https://web.archive.org/web/20170923223625/http://altplatform.org/2017/07/12/archiving-posse/ (twitter.com/_/status/1518887197965004800)
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@HIThomasFranke ↩️ @HIThomasFranke@indieweb.social
But this is still fresh / empty.
Maybe I find a way to mirror between @TwitterDE & @joinmastodon? (twitter.com/_/status/1518902294116511744)
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@tchambers ↩️ We state on the instance that our general focus is on tech relating to distributed, open, federated social and Indieweb tech. (twitter.com/_/status/1518908364369104898)
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@jeanniemckhaos ↩️ You can choose an existing server/service or host your own (~$5/mo). Thanks to Indieweb & Fediverse technology, regardless of what you choose, you can follow, like, comment and re-post all from your own account on your preferred platform & have it recognized on the other side. (twitter.com/_/status/1518917224215547905)
# @jeanniemckhaos If you're seeking an alternative to Twitter, I recommend @joinmastodon. If you want something that will work nicely for both short & long posts, I recommend @microdotblog or @withknown. If you have a self-hosted WordPress blog, I can help you indiewebify it. (twitter.com/_/status/1518917222646878208)
# @kevinmarks ↩️ Web3 is a co-option of the web by a pyramid scheme construction kit.
The web is capable of doing all the things that you mention above, with open protocols. We call it Indieweb. (twitter.com/_/status/1518926312592879619)
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@adamdavidson ↩️ I don't care which protocols do it. If indieweb can...great. (twitter.com/_/status/1518927325693362177)
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@trainingm0ntage The impulse for a lot of tech Twitter to leave the platform could be a great opportunity to teach devs about #IndieWeb.
If enough people promote the principles of IndieWeb and use it as a teaching tool, it could make the web just a bit better. (twitter.com/_/status/1518936351504220168)
# @trainingm0ntage ↩️ Promoting Indieweb principles could be a good approach, especially as a means of teaching and on boarding newcomers.
Teach people to build their personal sites so they can be more connected with each other and syndicate content to other platforms.
https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/1518935614611243008)
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@philthiselton ↩️ There is truly only one answer to this https://indieweb.org/
But, it's like climate change: we'll all compromise for convenience. (twitter.com/_/status/1518937682918920192)
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@petermolnar People fleeing Twitter: it's time to reopen the web, where you can have a homepage that looks, acts, and feels like your digital home.
Check out #indieweb at http://indieweb.org and #yesterweb at http://yesterweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/1518940039664832512)
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# @kevinmarks ↩️ you can peek at (some) instances local feeds with my http://www.unmung.com/mastoview tool eg
http://www.unmung.com/mastoview?url=botsin.space&view=local
or http://www.unmung.com/mastoview?url=wandering.shop&view=local or http://www.unmung.com/mastoview?url=indieweb.social&view=local (twitter.com/_/status/1518951912757997571)
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@zachleat this slide in a “Own Your Content on Social Media Using the IndieWeb” talk from 2019 seems a little too on the nose
https://www.zachleat.com/web/own-your-content/ (twitter.com/_/status/1518959671536672768)
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loqi.me created /influence (+23) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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@KennedyRichard ↩️ Acabo de criar o meu, nem foto coloquei ainda @kennedyrichard@indieweb.social (twitter.com/_/status/1518994148271001601)
# @kevinmarks ↩️ Yes, that's what my antifragility post says. The siloed namespaces are handy and timesaving, until they suddenly aren't and we have to recover URLs the hard way. See https://indieweb.org/site-deaths for history (twitter.com/_/status/1518999221692682242)
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[chrisaldrich] Mastodon << Post with useful diagram of the various timelines https://queer.party/@cassolotl/108195007013414698
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Loqi ok, I added "Post with useful diagram of the various timelines https://queer.party/@cassolotl/108195007013414698" to the "See Also" section of /Mastodon https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=81024&oldid=80986
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@hassanselim0 Just created a #Mastodon account, it's supposed to be a decentralized Twitter alternative with allegedly good moderation, let's see where this goes.
I'm on: https://indieweb.social/@hassanselim0 (twitter.com/_/status/1519048060978057217)
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@BarnabyWalters ↩️ that’s one good approach, much the same as what @doctorow does. Another approach is to set your blog up to also support tweet-length posts which then get syndicated to twitter https://indieweb.org/note https://indieweb.org/POSSE - also possible to get responses as comments with bridgy (twitter.com/_/status/1519049078151204867)
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@HealingHobbit Someone (sorry, don't remember who) tweeted about POSSE, and while I get the concept, it's not quite clear. I wouldn't post Twitter-y stuff on my blog (on Tumblr, because yeah) and then forward it to Twitter because that's not it's purpose. I'm lost.
https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/1519058469210447873)
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@Chronotope Alright, I'm trying to set up better on Mastodon this time. Haven't quite centralized my old accounts but for now I think this will be my home in Mastodon's corner of the Fediverse https://indieweb.social/@Chronotope (twitter.com/_/status/1519064443539312640)
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@calum_ryan Syndicating here too now for you new to or considering a move to Mastodon https://toot.cafe/@calumryan #indieweb
https://calumryan.com/notes/3631 (twitter.com/_/status/1519071458798059520)
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[tantek] Mastodon as syndication target is something worth better documenting on /Mastodon#POSSE (create a section if there isn't one already [calumryan])
# @ChrisAldrich ↩️ I'd buy! I can't wait to see what you come up with...
I've been helping to collect some prior art, examples, and UI patterns here if it helps to jumpstart your research/work: https://indieweb.org/directory (twitter.com/_/status/1519086420916424707)
# @trainingm0ntage ↩️ Hell, I don't know.
It does have me thinking about ways to organize devs using Indieweb principles so we're not all feeding big companies attention.
Dorsey's right about one thing: it should be a protocol. (twitter.com/_/status/1519091004246216704)
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@Caroli_Isautier ↩️ Je suis inscrite mais suis troublée. J'ai du choisir un "serveur", indiesocial, et n'ai pas vu de serveur framaka dans ma recherche. https://indieweb.social/@carolineIwishtoremainprivate (twitter.com/_/status/1519093956461711362)
# @kevinmarks ↩️ there's details here: https://indieweb.org/social_reader (twitter.com/_/status/1519095173749346304)