#meta 2022-04-25
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@toyinariyo66 At this point, I will literally help out anyone that needs assistance with building their own website/POSSE platform because it's been clear for a while now that you can't rely on centralised platforms. I will now be exclusively using the Indieweb and Bridgy to post tweets. (twitter.com/_/status/1518483736039415808)
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@nhoizey ↩️ If you leave Twitter, how will you promote your valuable content?
People seem to discover new content/authors on social networks more than on blogs/RSS, unfortunately.
I say this as a true believer in IndieWeb and POSSE. (twitter.com/_/status/1518512937798971395)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ You pick a server you like the administrator of, or take on being an admin yourself. You could try http://indieweb.social
Which server you're on affects the local feed, but you can follow anyone unless your server blocks theirs. (twitter.com/_/status/1518527532320047106)
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@mattbd ↩️ I like the principle behind the "notes" functionality of IndieWeb, and this situation does show the value of owning your own content where possible. Unfortunately I've never found an implementation of it that I liked (twitter.com/_/status/1518527776537595907)
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# @kevinmarks ↩️ The indieweb plugins are good and work with http://brid.gy to do twitter integration well. https://indieweb.org/WordPress/Plugins (twitter.com/_/status/1518536334020861953)
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@mxbck hey uh so today might be a good day to check out the IndieWeb again
https://mxb.dev/blog/syndicating-content-to-twitter-with-netlify-functions/ (twitter.com/_/status/1518572812214145027)
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@acegiak While we're all talking about leaving Twitter again I thought I'd mention my personal favourite approach which has always been the #indieweb approach.
https://indieweb.org/
It's still not super accessible but it's got the right values and has walked the talk for years now. (twitter.com/_/status/1518573277215707142)
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@dap6000 https://indieweb.org/ lays out a decent enough approach (twitter.com/_/status/1518576212251234307)
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@helenhousandi Somebody make me a billionaire so I can fund IndieWeb things where all I want out of it is for Winamp/Webamp to be a part of it somehow (let’s pretend that a single major funder in that space wouldn’t be a weird move) (twitter.com/_/status/1518579842178072577)
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@BekoPharm ↩️ Is this where you start using your blog again and add Webmention and/or ActivityPub support to implement IndieWeb and/or Fediverse features? :) (twitter.com/_/status/1518579645679124481)
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@ScottMadin ↩️ https://indieweb.org/ is the way forward (twitter.com/_/status/1518583968211382272)
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# @mattbd ↩️ I'm inclined to agree. I'm investigating Mastodon as an alternative, but I'm not very hopeful. I'm really keen on the idea of the IndieWeb, and that supports short posts called notes that are similar to tweets, but I can't find an implementation I like (twitter.com/_/status/1518588664200183809)
# @nhoizey Look for @indiewebcamp and #POSSE
If you understand French:
https://nicolas-hoizey.com/talks/2019/10/10/ne-vous-laissez-plus-deposseder-de-vos-contenus/ (twitter.com/_/status/1518588592758661122)
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Loqi Twitter is a popular content hosting silo that started with short plain text notes in 2006 and over time added auto-linking URLs, @-names, replies, photo & video posts, and much more https://indieweb.org/Twitter
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@tchambers ↩️ They do now. Mastodon generates an RSS feed for every user. Check out their web profile pages and look in the HTML header. Most popular RSS readers will just pick it up if you paste the profile URL in.
Here is mine to test with: https://indieweb.social/web/@tchambers (twitter.com/_/status/1518590275987271681)
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@soapdog ↩️ If you care about your content, please consider joining the following movements and platforms:
https://joinmastodon.org/
https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1518600350881796102)
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@will_martian ↩️ There is some existing work here: https://brid.gy/ and https://fed.brid.gy/
I recommend perusing the IndieWeb wiki for more on this kind of stuff: https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb
^ Such a cool and smart community--makes me optimistic about the future of the social web (twitter.com/_/status/1518605236289642496)
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@simplyacreative I am also on #Mastodon @ts@indieweb.social posting (twitter.com/_/status/1518610540268077056)
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@raviipx Internet has been a playground for billionaires and corporations for years. Things like the indieweb movement and federated networks get away from that by decentralising ownership of content, but the barrier to entry and prerequisite technical knowledge to make it work is higher (twitter.com/_/status/1518610176697319425)
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[schmarty] news that the the twitter board is taking the Musk buyout offer "seriously".
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@hmans ↩️ A few years ago I built a micro-sized distributed social network/blogging thing on top of IndieWeb protocols (WebMention mostly) where domain names == user names and I'm still convinced that this would be super duper awesome. (twitter.com/_/status/1518614978298884097)
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@cleverdevil The sad thing, really, is that there is no viable alternative. Trust me, I’m deeply familiar with Mastadon, IndieWeb, http://Micro.blog, et al., but they will not and cannot become the “new Twitter.” They’re not designed to, really.
So, revel in the end of days. (twitter.com/_/status/1518614766842834944)
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@canelasevero ↩️ Tem algo além do Mastodon?
https://indieweb.social/web/@knelasevero (twitter.com/_/status/1518616346145308677)
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@amoration ↩️ I know @t had methods for making the transitions easier + @indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/1518619108526280704)
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@kimberlyhirsh ↩️ You can always find me at my website. This is why I love the IndieWeb. https://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/1518620429279186945)
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@laura_e_langdon Woke up checked Twitter, joined Mastodon: https://indieweb.social/@g0g0gadget (twitter.com/_/status/1518621029525901312)
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@clark_gunn Concerned about Twitter? Own your content and syndicate to social media with IndieWeb. https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/1518628064720211968)
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@philnelson If you are thinking "I should move more of what I say online to a service I have more control over" I am happy to help you out setting up a blog system, a newsletter, whatever. Priority given to the underrepresented and excluded. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1518631232489226240)
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@realdoctormo ↩️ Although technically you're already on mastodon: https://indieweb.org/CounterSocial just not one that's networked with anyone else. (twitter.com/_/status/1518632890975854592)
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@jeanniemckhaos Hello, Twitter. If you're looking for another platform in light of the takeover news, I can assist with indieweb platforms. There is Mastodon, http://micro.blog, Indieweb plugins for WordPress blogs & others. Decentralized but they can all connect via ActivityPub protocol. (twitter.com/_/status/1518635653235363840)
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[aciccarello] Hm, that site is down. I wonder if it's temporary 🤔
# [aciccarello] Looks like it was up a few days ago. Could be high traffic
# @kimberlyhirsh Everybody on Twitter wants to know where to go now. The answer is your own website, syndicating out to wherever else people end up. This is the IndieWeb. Let me know if you’d be interested in a talk about how to get set up. https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1518637577447911427)
# @amoration ↩️ Some days I miss the 90s, blogging with IndyMedia & Trillian as it existed for social graph integration. As I'm reorganizing my publishing internally, I am choosing different channel & engagement strategies.
More Discord & federated media. @Evolove@indieweb.social (twitter.com/_/status/1518640743723651072)
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@eduardostalinho ↩️ Parece ser uma ideia parecida com a indieweb (http://indieweb.org) (twitter.com/_/status/1518641696153735171)
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@caffeneko ↩️ I just joined the 'indieweb' Tech community on Mastodon https://joinmastodon.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1518648755108691968)
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@chocl8girl ↩️ https://indieweb.org/CounterSocial (for the "source?" people) (twitter.com/_/status/1518653325083918336)
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# @kevinmarks ↩️ Yes, standards wars are toxic. But it's not hard to upgrade rss or atom to h-feed there's http://granary.io and http://unmung.com for starters https://indieweb.org/RSS_Atom_wars (twitter.com/_/status/1518660101149761541)
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@t73fde "Die (Twitter) Posse" #indieweb https://notiz.blog/2022/04/25/die-twitter-posse/ (twitter.com/_/status/1518665443753484289)
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@crashposition Not sure how this whole Twitter takeover is going to go down, so I'm kicking the tires over at Mastodon. If you're on there already please let me know. Either way, come and say hi! https://indieweb.social/web/@crashposition (twitter.com/_/status/1518668216125509632)
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@kdlunas come find me on mastodon https://indieweb.social/invite/7EHgav3r (twitter.com/_/status/1518670234206441472)
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@SamGreszes mastodon actually looks p cool, follow me on there if you want
https://indieweb.social/web/@RobotsAndTrexes (twitter.com/_/status/1518671822325264391)
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@jmeowmeow ↩️ IndieWeb is as alive as we choose* to make** it.
*Opportunity costs of being a boat beating against the current versus using "what everybody uses".
**Serious opportunity for WordPress? (twitter.com/_/status/1518673907703640064)
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@evanstucker ↩️ 2. with no ads, no censorship, and it's fully decentralized - anyone can run a Mastodon server, and anyone can subscribe to any else's feed. Follow me at @evanstucker@indieweb.social if you like. (twitter.com/_/status/1518675554798497792)
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@netculture I've got this ID on the http://Indieweb.Social instance at Mastodon, if you're keeping track of people. Not using it yet, and not leaving Twitter (yet?) but just an FYI as one option I'm considering. (twitter.com/_/status/1518676903867125760)
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@dougfjones I think people are going to find this post by Kimberly Hirsh handy today:
Everybody on Twitter wants to know where to go now. The answer is your own website, syndicating out to wherever else people end up. This is the IndieWeb. https://kimberlyhirsh.com/2022/04/25/everybody-on-twitter.html (twitter.com/_/status/1518682210957774855)
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@btconf This (img from @useTito attached) is the #btconf schedule of next weeks activities and events. Including @indiewebcamp, a talk by @Swarmrider and our Warm-Up at the @wacomxdus, a full-day workshop with @aarron and – which isn’t listed here – the @a11yclub. https://ti.to/beyondtellerrand/dusseldorf-2022 (twitter.com/_/status/1518688020056227842)
# @btconf People running the Side Events: ❤️
@t & @calum_ryan running @indiewebcamp at @CGI_DE
Alex & @roggermann running the events at @WacomXDUS
@jkphl organising the @a11yclub Meetup at Stadtbücherei Düsseldorf
I love the idea of many events alongside #btconf as an idea! (twitter.com/_/status/1518690220358742021)
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@_joshdick Own your own posts! My microblog has been at https://joshdick.net/microblog.html / http://micro.blog/jd for a while now. I hope today's Twitter news will result in more folks joining the Microblog/Indieweb community!
https://twitter.com/kimberlyhirsh/status/1518637577447911427 (twitter.com/_/status/1518693087006056448)
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@frumioj ↩️ Have you looked at IndieWeb in this regard? https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1518694712554795009)
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@loficodes This could be exactly what we all needed to get the IndieWeb going. Like Covid and remote work, something bad could still have positive side effects. (twitter.com/_/status/1518694393091399680)
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@carlesbellver ↩️ Jo també sóc a Mastodon i a l’#indieweb. Twitter no m’entusiasma. (twitter.com/_/status/1518695581669109763)
# @kimberlyhirsh ↩️ It's a nice perspective. This is one of the reasons I like the IndieWeb: I share my stuff to Twitter, but I don't entrust it to Twitter. (twitter.com/_/status/1518699128691253248)
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@jonahlangenbeck Now seems like a good time to remember you can roll your own at any time. https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1518701624688005120)
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jamietanna Hey chrisaldrich https://boffosocko.com/#comment-374140 showed up on your h-feed, not sure it was expected?
# Loqi [Claire just viewed your profile! Click here: https://localgirlplace.life/?u=2vtpd0d&o=ywuguu9&m=1?h=0a3eb3de0b03198b6bc35ea21dad71e5-] jgbzmc3s
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@gamer_lady Heck, if I go with the IndieWeb philosophy, then I may even pay for a hosted domain to ditch the ads WP throws onto free .com accounts. (twitter.com/_/status/1518707586714857472)
# @mattbd ↩️ Mastodon seems like the least complex option. I like the idea of using IndieWeb to host notes on my own site and allow interaction with other IndieWeb sites but can't find an implementation I like (twitter.com/_/status/1518708873670049794)
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[Sam_Butler] Good thread: https://twitter.com/EthanZ/status/1518692851386703873
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@EthanZ We're facing twin problems of finding alternative spaces that we have more control over, and problems of interoperability in maintaining the social relationships we've already built up on these platforms. Mastodon, in which individuals can run small, federated servers (twitter.com/_/status/1518692851386703873)
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@TincFox You know what was a great idea? POSSE (publish own site, syndicate elsewhere) which flipped the dependence on a single site.
...I had to update plugins so many times as APIs changed xP
But!! While entry is steep, maybe time to try again:
https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1518716648521224192)
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@brianwisti ↩️ Well that's the challenge. *Nothing* is really built into IndieWeb. Lots of fundamental ideas and agreed-upon language for sharing notes, but the process is still *very* DIY.
Not "IKEA" DIY.
More like "Foxfire Books" DIY. (twitter.com/_/status/1518725039591329793)
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@webology ↩️ Some of this is kind of built into the Indie Web which I struggle to make heads or tails of.
https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1518724497997709319)
# @webology ↩️ That's what is confusing. I see webmentions that seem instant from liking tweets on blogs that use it. https://indieweb.org/Webmention (twitter.com/_/status/1518726090042359815)
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@food_enjoyer I made a Mastodon account. You should follow me on there if we’re mutuals and you have/use/are going to use the platform. Will likely start being more active over there. https://indieweb.social/@c (twitter.com/_/status/1518736471124955136)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Finally, definitely check out @indiewebcamp. People have been musing (and using viable solutions) for over a decade - some of which that helped shape platforms like this one. (https://jacky.wtf/2022/4/Pm/PmMigwm7uFWgelQj9lZCah6v) (twitter.com/_/status/1518735682688143367)
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@grandeped Seems like a good time to revive the whole IndieWeb, POSSE, micropub, etc thing? (twitter.com/_/status/1518738260834594816)