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gRegor I saw some general chatter about when in the future we might have US IWC in person again. Personally I probably wouldn't feel comfortable if the county is in "Substantial" or "High" Community Transmission level based on the CDC map https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#county-view?list_select_state=all_states&list_select_county=all_counties&data-type=CommunityLevels&null=Risk
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gRegor Note you have to select "Data Type: Community Transmission" in the dropdown, not the default "Community Levels" that it defaults to (and is, imo, incredibly misleading)
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GWG gRegor: Remember about tomorrow, by the way.
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gRegor Aye, thank you! I'll be there :)
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[tantek] That's a decent criteria gRegor
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Loqi [fluffy] has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (29 in all channels)
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[chrisaldrich] [fluffy]++ for bring up a plurality of ideas and other definitions of plurality
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[tantek] Zegnat, do you have ideas for naming / capturing this "use your own domain to link to your profiles / service-hosted content" technique?
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[tantek] (continuing discussions from #indieweb)
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[tantek] some ideas
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[tantek] there are potentially three different things here
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[tantek] 1 just having redirects to silo profile paths e.g. example.com/twitter
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[tantek] 2 having redirects for deep links to silo content / permalinks, e.g. example.com/twitter/status/8228455558
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[tantek] 3 having redirects that "look" more generic on your own site, and avoiding the name of the specific silo, e.g. tantek.com/w/
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[tantek] do we want one page for all three? or are these different enough (both in usage and perhaps difficulty in implementation) that they deserve different pages?
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[tantek] or maybe one page for 1 & 2, and another page for 3?
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Zegnat I actually just found a silo example of links where they added /platform to the end to redirect. And I wanted to capture that on the wiki...
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Zegnat So I have no actual good idea for where to caption this, as I would not even be an indieweb example myself
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[chrisaldrich] Own your permalinks?
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[tantek] Zegnat, another use-case for this kind of thing (redirects to silo content) is eventual backfill permalinks
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich] I was thinking along the "own your ..." theme as well
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[tantek] do we need to make it specific to "permalinks"? how about "links"? or would that be confusing with owning your bookmarks?
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[chrisaldrich] I was sort of surprised not to see it on /permalink or /_URL design_
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[tantek] because it's a redirect, not an actual permalink
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[tantek] odd to call something *perma*-anything that's a redirect
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[tantek] Zegnat, when you went searching for this on the wiki, what did you search for?
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[chrisaldrich] address? though that's not as common a parlance, though may be more friendly framing for non-technical folks
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich] yeah, address is friendlier, which is why I was thinking "links"
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[chrisaldrich] the perma- part is the important thing precisely because it _can_ be redirected anywhere.
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[chrisaldrich] What is a DOI?
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Loqi DOI is an abbreviation for Digital Object Identifier, "a character string used to uniquely identify an object such as an electronic document[1]", kind of like a URL with more bureaucracy https://indieweb.org/DOI
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[jamesg483] I like “own your links.”
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[chrisaldrich] DOI << https://www.doi.org/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://www.doi.org/" to the "See Also" section of /DOI https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=81510&oldid=68919
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[chrisaldrich] browsing that page for vocabulary...
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[chrisaldrich] they use the generic "resources" there...
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[chrisaldrich] and the word "persistent"
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[tantek] DOI is even worse than URL (from a jargon perspective). I wouldn't use any suggestions from there
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[chrisaldrich] I'm not seeing anything else there that looks friendly though there are a few things almost so generic as to be useless for these cases.
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sknebel could start with an overview page along the lines of "redirect patterns" and come up with names for the individual ones later if there isnt a great label now
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[chrisaldrich] own your links is probably the best framing thus far and ties into the popularity of linking sites like Linktree which do this sort of thing. "Linktree: DOI for the masses".
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[tantek] what is own your links
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "own your links" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "own your links is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] ^ go for it sknebel
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[tantek] starting with one page is a good approach, we can create more pages later
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angelo is it an act of "reclaiming" the silo URLs?
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Zegnat “Zegnat, when you went searching for this on the wiki, what did you search for?” – I was looking for /twitter, because I could have sworn the example was tantek.com/twitter. Hahaha
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Loqi rofl
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[tantek] oh goodness that redirect lol
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Zegnat Ah, yeah, I thought that was fun too. Never realised random words would be turned into permalinks by your shortlinks code :D
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[tantek] it's not random words. it just happens to match the pattern of my note permashortlinks paths that start with a 't' for text note, then newbase60 of for the date and item number on that date
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Loqi [Event Updated] calumryan.com updated "May 18, 2022 7:00pm Homebrew Website Club Europe/London" changed description https://events.indieweb.org/event/371/history/1083/diff
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gRegor I believe Salt does (or did?) the own your links thing for redirects to silo profiles
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gRegor Pretty sure we talked about it at /2017/Bellingham, not sure if it's in session notes
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[chrisaldrich] gRegor++ for gardening
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