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@sergeykarayev ↩️ This is related https://indieweb.org/POSSE but is doomed to failure, as they only speak to nerds. (twitter.com/_/status/1535055076724617218)
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@vform Am I on the IndieWeb yet? https://css-tricks.com/am-i-on-the-indieweb-yet/ (twitter.com/_/status/1535057456421806094)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ Fortunately you're a nerd. Though if you want a turnkey indieweb service, try http://micro.blog (twitter.com/_/status/1535056678479048704)
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[Scott_Jack] Yeah, micro.blog is pretty much what Sergey describes:
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[Scott_Jack] https://twitter.com/sergeykarayev/status/1489109577756917765?s=20&t=FLRUamaOsQ8aPBxuDM-tMw
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@sergeykarayev It should be *extremely* easy to self-host all of your tweets, instas, tiktoks, youtubes, mediums, substacks, etc. I'm imagining a service where you sign up, register your own domain, link all of these accounts, and everything else is automatic. (twitter.com/_/status/1489109577756917765)
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-06-10.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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@theymakedesign Am I on the IndieWeb Yet? https://ift.tt/WDnZ0jh (twitter.com/_/status/1535154450205220865)
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@SidebarIO Am I on the IndieWeb Yet? https://ift.tt/WDnZ0jh (twitter.com/_/status/1535155947441627136)
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@zplux Am I on the IndieWeb yet? | CSS-Tricks https://buff.ly/3xqDBlo (twitter.com/_/status/1535185086089404417)
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@designernewsbot Am I on the Indieweb yet? https://www.designernews.co/stories/124347-am-i-on-the-indieweb-yet?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=designernewsbot (twitter.com/_/status/1535193353012248576)
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jamesg.coffee edited /spam (+191) (view diff)
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@cswordpress Yes. Yes you are. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1535259987412492292)
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@cswordpress We do not, in fact, have to accept that the #indieweb or #OpenWeb is dead. It's survived every trendy thing thrown at it and it'll continue to do so. (twitter.com/_/status/1535259803806838784)
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@cswordpress Here's the thing about the #indieweb. Once you have a domain or site, you're there. From that point, you can enable whichever other building blocks you like. Or not. But just because you're not using certain building blocks doesn't mean it's not indieweb. (twitter.com/_/status/1535260632366387202)
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www.ciccarello.me edited /CSS-Tricks (+105) "Add "Am I on the IndieWeb yet?" article" (view diff)
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[aciccarello] Ah, I found it https://twitter.com/swyx/status/1344095187098685440
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@swyx One thing I learned from getting published in @CSS Tricks is the *sheer amount* of sites that solely exist to repost CSS Tricks. I made an open source domain blocklist of these spam sites: https://github.com/sw-yx/domainblocklist Anyone know why they do this? They set canonicals to themselves.. https://twitter.com/css/status/1339016889285140481 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eqcu6rTU0AYv39Q.png (twitter.com/_/status/1344095187098685440)
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[schmarty] aciccarello++
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Loqi aciccarello has 2 karma over the last year
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www.ciccarello.me edited /CSS-Tricks (+1060) "Add section on respun content" (view diff)
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[aciccarello] Okay, I documented the phenomenon on the /CSS-Tricks page. How should that be referenced on the blocklist, spam, and/or webmentions pages?
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-06-10.html
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@etportis ↩️ This makes me desperately want to finish my drafted post comparing IndieWeb w/ ham radio: a similarly decentralized network of fiercely independent hobbyists who pride themselves robustness, except that when you spam ham, you go to JAIL https://wiki.c2.com/?HamRadioPests (twitter.com/_/status/1535281740326916096)
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@etportis ↩️ Anyways https://indieweb.org/Vouch is kind of interesting but the whole concept of decentralization is indeed a double-edged sword!!! (twitter.com/_/status/1535282516407353344)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-06-10.html
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@etportis ↩️ I can't post this yet because I'm still ironing out my IndieWeb implementation and the ol' blog is in shambles meanwhile. (twitter.com/_/status/1535282047341580289)
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martymcgui.re edited /Instagram (+107) "/* POSSE via private API */ instagram-upload.pl" (view diff)
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@LogicallyCross Am I on the IndieWeb yet? http://dlvr.it/SRyhWc (twitter.com/_/status/1535288072765485057)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-06-10.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-06-10.html
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[tantek] capjamesg, I think there is general agreement that tutorials are good, they complement reference documentation, and more tutorials are welcome. However there is one big problem with tutorials
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[tantek] tutorials are not sustainable documentation. that is, once posted, rarely are they ever actually updated, so they grow stale in a year or two
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[tantek] what is a tutorial
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Loqi Get started on the indieweb by connecting with the indiewebcamp community, getting a personal domain, a place for your content, and setting up your home page and other indieweb essentials https://indieweb.org/tutorial
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[tantek] a bit buried, but check these out if you want to help improve the tutorials on the wiki (or write new ones for topics that aren't covered) https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started#IndieWeb_CMS_and_Hosting
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[tantek] anyone else think the Am I On The IndieWeb Yet? post is worth IndieNewsing? or perhaps Indienewsing a brief response pointing out micro.blog and other /quickstart options?
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loqi.me created /quickstart (+24) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-06-10.html
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[tantek] also a bit surprised no one is pointing out the irony of "web3" evangelists having to use "web2" to beg people to learn about their nonsense because they haven't even built anything real enough to post tweet-like content
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tracydurnell.com edited /2022/Pop-ups/Sessions (+93) "/* Displaying Responses and Features */ add sentence about backfeed" (view diff)
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IWDiscordGateway <tracydurnell> What is indienews?
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IWDiscordGateway <tracydurnell> Oh wait I think discord doesn't work with Loqi 😉
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IWDiscordGateway <tracydurnell> https://indieweb.org/IndieNews
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IWDiscordGateway <tracydurnell> Tantek I'd vote yes
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-06-10.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-06-10.html
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GWG I spoke to the gentleman who wrote https://css-tricks.com/am-i-on-the-indieweb-yet/ and got some ideas on clarity
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jacky excellent
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gregorlove.com created /quick_start (+25) "redirect" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-06-10.html
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gregorlove.com created /jf2feed (+22) "redirect" (view diff)
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[Scott_Jack] @gwg looking forward to hearing more. "the wiki is confusing" - we have a getting started and quick start page ... those, to me, should be combined and refined to be like a Quick Start handbook you get with a new appliance
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[Scott_Jack] And I'm thinking out loud, but maybe I should just make a change - the Quick Start page highlights cost as a major reason for services like micro.blog (which I disagree with - the major reason is eliminating dev work for normal people that want to focus on writing) and then puts price at the very bottom of the comparison chart
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GWG [Scott_Jack]: I'm going to work on the WordPress part of it
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-06-10.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-06-10.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-06-10.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-06-10.html
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tantek.com edited /JF2_Feed (+35) "sidefile is the term we have, move see alsos to a specification section, new see alsos" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /embedded_Tweet (+481) "stub Why, How to, IndieWeb Examples" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-06-10.html
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jacky my blog post won't make it in time
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jacky that's okay :)
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tantek.com edited /Now (+259) "add Why stub" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Now (-14) "de-dupe nownownow sections, prev edit also moved IndieWeb examples that were now-ish or out of date to subsections" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Now (+7) "move TOC down" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Now (+43) "subheads for indieweb examples" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /JF2_Feed (+16) "fix spec links, fragments to jf2feed in particular instead of all of jf2" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /JF2_Feed (+10) "see also jf2" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /audience (+448) "stub why, how to, brainstorming" (view diff)
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-06-10.html
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tantek.com edited /audience (+153) "incorporate some see alsos into main sections" (view diff)
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@brianleroux indieweb is web6 just saying its not a contest (twitter.com/_/status/1535374283295191040)
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@hackdesign Am I on the IndieWeb Yet? https://www.miriamsuzanne.com/2022/06/04/indiweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/1535373782717702145)
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[tantek] looool web6
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tantek.com edited /Reading.am (+31) "add date to dfn, give shut down sentence its own paragraph, Features section" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Reading.am (+7) "lower TOC" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Reading.am (+123) "de-dupe Features, focused, list, note service and code at top, incorporate some see alsos into main" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /chat-names (+23) "dfn grammar tweak, link logs for discoverability" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /chat-names (+9) "incorporate timezone names advice into list so people see it when editing that section (didn't need to be a separate "FYI" section at top)" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /chat-names (+141) "summary Please list" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /chat-names (+1) "see also tweaks" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-06-10.html
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@jrcooper I dig it. https://indieweb.org/Webmention (twitter.com/_/status/1535379456809791488)
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@andybee ↩️ Let’s make this interesting and coin (lol) web9999999999999 for indieweb. (twitter.com/_/status/1535380669081468930)
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gRegor web∞
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-06-10.html (twitter.com/_/status/1535385077416198144)