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gregorlove.com edited /2022/Berlin/Schedule (+111) "/* Saturday */ accessibility 101 video" (view diff)
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@PetCryptid ↩️ @antoniogm additionally, I mean
with the constant addition of new standards like WebXR and movements like IndieWeb,… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1566604470523514880 (twitter.com/_/status/1566604470523514880)
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tantek.com edited /multi-photo (+188) "dfn, AKA carousel (term used for IG multi-photos in particular), rewrite Why as a series of points and expand to viewers and writers perspectives" (view diff)
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[tantek]4 ^ lol that tweet is quite a good takedown of the upthread
# [tantek]4 GWG, if you can get the info from jkphl about his cool 360deg camera microphone thing, could you add it to https://indieweb.org/remote_participation#For_a_room ?
# gregorlove.com edited /IndieAuth (-305) "/* Articles */ citation author templates, some archiveurls" (view diff)
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# [tantek]4 I had neglected Taco Bell for perhaps more than a decade until on a late night road trip with friends they were one of the few "food" places open, and unbeknownst to me, had a plethora of vegan options (thank you web search and people blogging, AKA web 2), which turned out to be quite delicious. they'd quietly innovated and better served customers without a big fuss. there's something to that
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[schmarty] the taco bell 7-layer burrito was a really good find for me when i went vegetarian
# [schmarty] ahaha love the borghal.blog site design. borghal++
# [tantek]4 oh that is very nice. borghal++
# [schmarty] this is the second blog i've seen making use of AI-generated art (Midjourney specifically) for featured images on blog posts!
# [schmarty] (xeiaso.net is the first i saw doing this)
# [tantek]4 Midjourney also provoked that hand-wringing NYT article
# [tantek]4 or rather, someone winning a "digital art" contest using it
# [tantek]4 this is worth indienewsing: https://borghal.blog/blog/2022-09/indieweb-level-1/
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gRegor this is probably more dev, but https://andys.page/posts/how-to-draw/
# [schmarty] ugh what is _wrong_ with the keyboard handling on andys.page??
# [schmarty] can't page down at all, very gross.
# [schmarty] spacebar and pgdown keep jumping me up to near the top of that post
# [schmarty] so it's just a herky-jerky way of seeing the space just below the fold over and over 😓
# [schmarty] yeah this is ff. ugh it jumps to the top of the page when i tab away
# [schmarty] punishing
# [schmarty] i do like that
# tantek.com edited /multi-photo (+184) "add some carousel distinctions in the IG section" (view diff)
# [tantek]4 well if I keep updating / gardening /multiphoto, that'll be next week's top page
# [tantek]4 this is what happens when I get "stuck" authoring a post, I end up overthinking the nature of the post, researching existing usage, and writing down such meta-post links & thoughts first as part of figuring out how to post something
# [tantek]4 💁♂️🦋 is this yakshaving?
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# tantek.com edited /multi-photo (+1073) "create Brainstorming section, POSSEing subsection, with ideas for POSSEing to Flickr in particular" (view diff)
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[KevinMarks] No, it's structured procrastination
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loqi.me created /tic_tac_toe (+161) "prompted by capjamesg and dfn added by capjamesg" (view diff)
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jamesg.blog edited /tic_tac_toe (+487) "Add notes on improving the example from IWC Berlin" (view diff)
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "games" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "games is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# jamesg.blog moved /Games to /games "Remove capital letter"
# Loqi ok, I added "[[game_play]]" to the "See Also" section of /games https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=83275&oldid=83273
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# Loqi [New Event] jamesg.blog created "Sep 7, 2022 7:00pm Homebrew Website Club Europe/London" https://events.indieweb.org/uWHdYJqt5Y8G
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# Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/cfenollosa/status/1566484145446027265" to the "See Also" section of /email https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=83279&oldid=82567
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waterpigs.co.uk uploaded /File:IWC-Berlin-2022-group-photo.jpeg "Group photo of the participants of IWC Berlin 2022, at Thoughtworks https://indieweb.org/File:IWC-Berlin-2022-group-photo.jpeg"
# [schmarty] Good thread on email deliverability problems. further down the replies the blockchain bros come out and lol
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# [schmarty] I laughed at "blockchain fixes this" and bailed after "bitcoin will solve this"
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@michaelgraaf ↩️ types. Crypto, gambling sales, etc.
All real humans welcome, zero tolerance for spammers, those trying to spread malware, etc.
#Admin #Indiewebsocial
https://giphy.com/gifs/season-11-the-simpsons-11x10-xT5LMubSgChLpofti8
https://indieweb.social/@tchambers/108946061735511306 (2/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1566845878098436096)
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@borghal I'm an #IndieWeb n00b.
https://borghal.blog/blog/2022-09/indieweb-level-1/ (twitter.com/_/status/1566850596161966080)
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@mecao1 RT web3isgreat@indieweb.social: Islamic State tests out NFTs
September 4, 2022
https://web3isgoinggreat.com/?id=islamic-state-tests-out-nfts
https://indieweb.social/@web3isgreat/108947198862644543
https://libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1763-1645-50d4-830433786425 (twitter.com/_/status/1566862034385469440)
# [tantek]4 That's great 😂
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# Loqi [Event Updated] aaronparecki.com updated "Sep 3 - 4, 2022 IndieWebCamp Berlin" changed description "remove zoom link from description" https://events.indieweb.org/event/400/history/1153/diff
# [tantek]4 ^ for those of you that like to think about the differences between user-perceptual post "types" or "kinds", and specifically multiphoto posts vs articles with lots of photos, please review (GWG, aaronpk, you both come to mind)
# [tantek]4 [KevinMarks]++ it's definitely structuredprocrastination--
# [tantek]4 capjamesg see backscroll, context from where I @-mention KevinMarks yesterday I think
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@dcarcher ↩️ Currently trying to wrap my head around why indieweb/small web people are anti-nft/crypto. Many talented creatives in that space but I think some communities have become echo chambers of bad news/scam stories (twitter.com/_/status/1566919542042943489)
# [tantek]4 lol maybe because we have zero interest in burning down the planet for pump & dump / pyramid / wash-trading and other scams?
# [tantek]4 also because so many (most? like the two in that thread) don't pass the "hello world" test of posting plain text notes to their own site.
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# [tantek]4 also appropriating "decentralized" for anything using a singleton (blockchain)
# [tantek]4 popping the subject stack to previous. barnaby, capjamesg, any opinions on multiphoto posts vs articles with lots of photos?
# [tantek]4 I'm also curious about the Reader use-cases for displaying a multiphoto vs an article. as in do they want to do something / anything special for their users?
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barnaby I have some vague thoughts about the subject, but nothing concrete. I don’t think I’ve ever posted an “article” which was mainly photos, but I often post notes with several captioned photos in e.g. https://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/5JYNTX/
# Loqi [Barnaby Walters] #CNC 2022 Day 2 Highlights! Only 90 observations today, despite much more time outside — yesterday cleared out the low-hanging fruit.
I think there’s a European pond turtle hiding in this picture somewhere
This Aesculapian Snake was much less... https://waterpigs.co.uk/img/p1100959.jpeg
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# barnaby in these cases, I don’t want to post the images separately and then make a collection post, and making a UI for separately uploading and captioning each photo, then organising them together into one post, is significantly more complicated than just having a text box and an “upload image” button
# [tantek]4 great real world example barnaby++
# [tantek]4 I'd say that's more of a note mini-story interspersed with photos, rather than "captions" for each photo
# [tantek]4 and worth documenting as an another alternative
# barnaby looks like I usually tag those notes with “photos”, so there are plenty here https://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/?tagged=photos
# [tantek]4 you can use u-featured on a specific image for any post
# [tantek]4 that helps with link previews
# gRegor On my site I intersperse the captions, but they're all just part of the e-content. Monocle extracts the photos for the nice layout and shows the text at the top. https://monocle.p3k.io/preview?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgregorlove.com%2F2022%2F07%2Flooking-for-the-bright-side%2F
# [tantek]4 IG doesn't have a way to caption each individual photo, that's the point of a multi-photo. a multi-photo does NOT have per photo captions
# [tantek]4 even Barnaby's example is not multiple captions but rather the telling of a story. each "caption" doesn't really make sense on its own, but rather reads like a continuation from previous text
# [tantek]4 gRegor, I've seen the numbering practice (and used it myself as well), however those are often smaller than "typical" captions
# [tantek]4 and a subset of the actual "entire" caption
# gRegor I just think it would be nice to display them together if that's the intent. https://gregorlove.com/2022/07/looking-for-the-bright-side/ has no overall caption, just some random photos from my week.
# [tantek]4 the differences between "multiple captions" and a series of connected text are quite subtle but they're there.
# Loqi [gRegor Morrill] Looking for the bright side. Gold medallion trees in bloom.
2. They really let anyone drive in California
3. Somehow I carpool https://gregorlove.com/site/assets/files/6122/pxl_20220711_231915101.1000x0-is-hidpi.jpg
# [tantek]4 e.g. in Barnaby's example https://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/5JYNTX/ note the last snippet of text: "And I finally saw an Ant Woodlouse", key word there being *And*, connecting it to previous text as part of a longer narrative, rather than being a standalone caption
# Loqi [Barnaby Walters] #CNC 2022 Day 2 Highlights! Only 90 observations today, despite much more time outside — yesterday cleared out the low-hanging fruit.
I think there’s a European pond turtle hiding in this picture somewhere
This Aesculapian Snake was much less... https://waterpigs.co.uk/img/p1100959.jpeg
# [tantek]4 yes, /collection posts are much less developed
# [tantek]4 yes! that's telling a story!
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# [tantek]4 perhaps that's close enough, especially if the story focused on the photos
# [tantek]4 is* focused on
# [tantek]4 gRegor, the other alternative to numbered lists is to write a single caption for the whole story across all the photos, and when there's a sentence most applicable to a photo, put in a parenthesized index number or numbers of the photo(s), e.g. "We climbed Mt. Tam (3,4)"
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# gRegor These feel like alternatives to coerce different post types into Instagram. I think captions have typically been shorter, but with IG dominating, people are telling longer stories with more photos, leading to longer captions. I would prefer to make an article with photos in that case and probably not syndicate to IG.